Has EA already failed Battlefield 3?

[gabe12301]

Do you think EA has caused BF3 to fail in its goal to beat MW3?
To me it seemed at the beginning that it might actually be possible, but then EA pulled out the gun when they didn't put steam on the list. Then the shot themselves in the foot when they announced that it wasn't going to be on steam, then they blew off their other foot when they said you HAD to use origin.

You probably think that the origin thing isn't that bad but the problem with this would be the piracy, because pirates are generally petty and will look for any excuse to illegally pirate a game even though they are obviously in the wrong.So, you don't want them to dislike you as a publisher. Although this probably won't be that bad because this is a largely multiplayer title.This along with the people who refuse to use origin because it's EA or whatever will probably stop it from getting close to COD's amount of players.

or at least on the PC.

 

[Easton Dark]

It will only decrease PC sales, by how much nopony knows. Maybe a negligible amount, maybe by as much as half.

On consoles, well, they're consoles. What do people play on them more, Battlefield or CoD?

 

[MuppeTeN]

I used to play COD only, but got BF2 a couple of days ago. To be honest, I don't think it can match up against CoD.

The most anoying thing was that a player with a higher lvl had items to balance it in their favor( Snipe x12 mainly, or higher armor) that was th worst.

It's good also but, not too many online modes, classes, weapons. And maps WAY to big for the game except the squad matches.

 

[Febel]

Yes, I'd not be willing to change services to origin just to play the game. I really hope this doesn't become a fad, making us choose one game service or another. I'd much rather stick with Steam.

 

[Appleshampoo]

Yup, having to download another lightweight client that takes me 5 seconds to download and 3 minutes to install is a real deal breaker for me.

I've had Origin from day one and it's not pissed me off at all. Having both Steam and Origin doesn't make your computer slap on the ol' My chemical romance and start cutting it's own power cables with a razor blade you know.

 

[Cenequus]

Dunno why they even fight each other tbh. CoD is pretty much a solo game just that you don't kill the blue guys,while BF2 is pretty much team based and you can't do jack solo. To me it was always fail PR.

Also yeah what's the problem with Origin,they pretty much backed up on all the absurd things they had at start and now it seems ok.

 

[yuval152]

I'm getting it for console anyway,even if my computer could run it,I'd still buy it for my 360.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Yup, having to download another lightweight client that takes me 5 seconds to download and 3 minutes to install is a real deal breaker for me.

I've had Origin from day one and it's not pissed me off at all. Having both Steam and Origin doesn't make your computer slap on the ol' My chemical romance and start cutting it's own power cables with a razor blade you know.

Thank you for this voice of reason.

Look guys, I'm not going to really defend Origin, but let's be frank here and ask yourself this:

How much is this going to affect my gaming experience?

The clear answer? Barely anything or plain nothing. Users here have already said it doesn't overly tax your computer, you can just turn Origin off after you stopped playing and not have it launch after booting your computer, and it's not like you're forced to buy BF3 from Origin either.

The only way Origin might really affect your gameplay experience is if they're going down the Diablo 3 route and not make an offline mode. This won't matter much for BF3 of course, because honestly it is a multiplayer game, but if ME3 is going to use Origin then yes it'll matter.

But as it is now, people are crying out over nothing, making mountains out of molehills.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I will go on record as saying that Battlefield 3 will not sell half as many copies as MW3. Which is the better game... who knows. I prefer the CoD gameplay style to the slow, tedious realism of Battlefield.

 

[Aeonknight]

Are people really that fanboyish for valve that they'll refuse to use any other software to play a (presumably) good game?

 

[migo]

Do you think EA has caused BF3 to fail in its goal to beat MW3?
To me it seemed at the beginning that it might actually be possible, but then EA pulled out the gun when they didn't put steam on the list. Then the shot themselves in the foot when they announced that it wasn't going to be on steam, then they blew off their other foot when they said you HAD to use origin.

You probably think that the origin thing isn't that bad but the problem with this would be the piracy, because pirates are generally petty and will look for any excuse to illegally pirate a game even though they are obviously in the wrong.So, you don't want them to dislike you as a publisher. Although this probably won't be that bad because this is a largely multiplayer title.This along with the people who refuse to use origin because it's EA or whatever will probably stop it from getting close to COD's amount of players.

or at least on the PC.

They made a good call to not support Steam. Steam is horrible if you need to get a patch, as Steam has separate patches. If EA wants to be able to support their customers, they need to use anything other than Steam. As for only using Origin, it makes CS even easier, because there's less variables to deal with and less passing the buck, so overall better experience for the user. I have no problem using Origin for EA games, haven't run into any problems with Mirror's Edge so far, and EA has pretty reasonable DRM policies lately. I'd have to think about it if Origin started offering non-EA games, that might go south for the same reason non-Valve games go south on Steam.

 

[Vrach]

Yup, having to download another lightweight client that takes me 5 seconds to download and 3 minutes to install is a real deal breaker for me.

How about it being a deal breaker for those living in countries Origin IP blocks?

 

[mornal]

I've had Origin from day one and it's not pissed me off at all. Having both Steam and Origin doesn't make your computer slap on the ol' My chemical romance and start cutting it's own power cables with a razor blade you know.

This made me laugh. I also agree. I've been using Origin for a while and I haven't noticed any problems with it, as a resource hog or otherwise.

OT: Battlefield 3 will fail to beat Modern Warfare 3 for reasons unrelated to Origin. Call of Duty has essentially complete control of the console market. When a console gamer thinks of an FPS they (usually) think of CoD, not Battlefield. Make whatever claims you want about the superiority of one platform over the other but the (completely not researched) fact is that there are more console gamers than there are PC gamers. Assuming we're defining success as most units sold / money made CoD will win hands down. Consoles are the market you need to win.

The problem is trying to compete with Call of Duty. It's like trying to compete with World of Warcraft. Both series are juggernauts that won't be dethroned easily. They're more likely to die out because of internal problems (like lack of innovation) rather than some fancy new game that thinks it can knock them off. At least with Battlefield though, it isn't blatantly copying Call of Duty like so many MMOs do with WoW.

Depending on how well both games sell, how well they're received, etc. I could see the next generation of the Battlefield series coming out on top; no particular reason, I just have a feeling in my bones, so to speak.

All that said, Battlefield 3 looks to be the better game (definitive judgement of course requires the release) and I am eagerly awaiting it.

 

[Jekken6]

Still buying Battlefield 3. will only use Origin for that

 

[teqrevisited]

I don't care that I'll have to have it running to be honest, as long as it doesn't eat all my bandwidth. The only thing I've got against Origin is that the prices for their online store are absolutely horrendous, but retail solves that problem.

 

[Griffolion]

I used to play COD only, but got BF2 a couple of days ago. To be honest, I don't think it can match up against CoD.

The most anoying thing was that a player with a higher lvl had items to balance it in their favor( Snipe x12 mainly, or higher armor) that was th worst.

It's good also but, not too many online modes, classes, weapons. And maps WAY to big for the game except the squad matches.

You clearly haven't understood what Battlefield is about then. Stop judging it on CoD's terms and you'll find a vast amount of merit for the game.

Also, it's a universal fact that the x12 scope is never used by Snipers since there are better perks in that slot. Higher armour is the same, as there are always better perks than that. Besides, a higher level player has been playing longer than you, they know the game better, they know the maps better. Its unbalanced by virtue of him playing longer and knowing the game better. I've got the tags of many level 50 players (I'm L29) because I outflanked them or out smarted them despite not having the time played, skills, knowledge or weapons they have.

Battlefield is essentially a game where using your brain is essential, actual team work is required and not all kills are decided by a straight gun-on-gun encounter. If you're coming from CoD, I can understand why that may be an un-graspable concept.

Oh and by the way, judging CoD on Battlefield's terms; there's too many modes, classes & weapons. And the maps are WAY too small for the game, even the ground war mode. I don't think it will match up against Battlefield. See how easy it is to flip it over?

Are people really that fanboyish for valve that they'll refuse to use any other software to play a (presumably) good game?

People are still angry at EA for removing games from steam even though it was Valve who refused to sell them.

It says a lot.

From my understanding, both parties had faults.

Also, Origin is quite a good service, people should really stop avoiding it like the plague and actually try it before decrying it.

Yup, having to download another lightweight client that takes me 5 seconds to download and 3 minutes to install is a real deal breaker for me.

I've had Origin from day one and it's not pissed me off at all. Having both Steam and Origin doesn't make your computer slap on the ol' My chemical romance and start cutting it's own power cables with a razor blade you know.

Thank you. Oh, sweet Jesus, thank you. That post was seriously like giving a glass of cold water to someone in Hell. Finally, some reason. Seriously, thank you.

 

[Zhukov]

Eh, it's not a deal breaker for me.

It's a pain in the arse and I really wish they hadn't done it, but I'm not pitching a fit over the Origin thing. That said, if EA think they're getting a single cent from me via Origin, they're sorely mistaken.

Besides, I'm still not even sure I want to buy BF3 to begin with.

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

I'm not interested in BF3 that much anyway. I doubt it will be anything new or refreshing. I entertained the idea that I would pick up a copy, but I just really don't want to use two clients. I like having one library and only one library. You can call be a fanboy or whatever you like, but I'm really picky about what I use and I'm comfortable with Steam - all my games are on Steam, all stats and statistics are on Steam and all my friends are on Steam. If my friends don't plan on being on Origin, then I'm not jumping ship either. I don't plan on buying BF3 if it means I have to play solo. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[Nouw]

Thank god I'm getting it on the console. Then again I'm not so sure if it'd be nearly as terrible as people make it to be.