Has Pokemon always sucked?

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LITE992

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Probably yes seeing how the characters will always explain type effectiveness and stuff like that, how they spend too much time clarifying. And I agree that now that I'm older I see how badly written and animated it is.
 

scw55

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LilithSlave said:
scw55 said:
I prefer the Team Rocket story arc in Black and White. They're less Villain-of-the-week and more... there's a conspiracy running deeply and something massive will take place.
Ah, yes, I had this right in mind right as I was reading the topic. I wasn't sure how exactly to say it without coming across to someone as silly, but that's pretty much my thoughts right there.

There's a clear upgrade to villainry that starts in "Best Wishes".
Yeah they're actually competent. I mean, there must have been a reason why they never got fired from TR all these years of sucking
Except Meowth
. They are actually decent criminals. They are doing actual criminal things.
 

scorptatious

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scw55 said:
I prefer the Team Rocket story arc in Black and White. They're less Villain-of-the-week and more... there's a conspiracy running deeply and something massive will take place. There's a constant build up. Also
Meowth got fired from Team Rocket and was neglected so he was found by the Twerps unconscious and nursed back to awakeyness. He's now following the Twerps. But for how long? and is he sincere?
. Pokemon is Pokemon. It's like discussing Hollyoaks.
Meowth... is not with Jessie and James anymore? And is now following Ash and the gang?

Did the universe just implode or something?
 

emeraldrafael

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Most likely. Many things suck, or at least arent as good as once thought, when you remove the view of nostalgia.

Though I think the original series going through Kanto was probably the best, and still holds up well enough.

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and personally I think the Orange Isles ones are good too.
 

Yopaz

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The anime is clearly overrated, but I can get a few laughs out of it. Sure it's not high class and any character growth and trainer experience is set to 0 once there's a new season starting, but if you can look away from that it's decent.
 

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scw55 said:
I prefer the Team Rocket story arc in Black and White. They're less Villain-of-the-week and more... there's a conspiracy running deeply and something massive will take place. There's a constant build up. Also
Meowth got fired from Team Rocket and was neglected so he was found by the Twerps unconscious and nursed back to awakeyness. He's now following the Twerps. But for how long? and is he sincere?
. Pokemon is Pokemon. It's like discussing Hollyoaks.
Yeah I gotta say Team Rocket has become a hell of a lot more badass in the new season.

Thats something the writers actually did right, now if only they can make Ash more intelligent since this season hes fighting like a rookie
 

Coldster

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I haven't seen the show for around eight months now, but in the last year I watched it (at least), it was awful. Never any Pokemon battles, always Team Rocket blasting themselves off into the sky while Ash and the gang would help random strangers. So boring. I'm fairly certain that the first three seasons of the show were fantastic, according to my memory. Though that might be a bit biased.
 

Unesh52

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LilithSlave said:
Pokemon has always been AWESOME in my opinion. Along with Mario, Zelda, Kirby, and everything else by Nintendo.

I do think that they focus too much on adding new Pokemon instead of new game mechanics. Still, they're continuously pretty solid jRPGs. Certainly more solid than the direction Final Fantasy has gone, Pokemon is giving you more options(slowly but surely), while Final Fantasy is giving you less.

Edit: Oh, you're talking about the anime. Eh, the humor is still much the same. Though it's pretty stupid that Satoshi/Ash is still considered the same age as when he started. They can keep him young looking or whatever, but when you're 10 years old for over 10 years, it's ridiculous. It's not like the creators have to shrink his eyes, make him super tall, and give him a beard. Just stop calling him 10 years old. And let him actually mature a little bit mentally.
I lol'd at your edit. You've really gotta read the topic first dummy :p

OT: I remember thinking it was the shit way back in the day, but it's painful to watch now. I still think the movie with Mewtwo is decent though.
 

Totenkopf

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I watched it quite often as a little kid, but later I realized that it was quite lame (Always the same, repeating structures, when one can see through this as a kid, it's pretty darn shameful for the creators) and... yes, that's about it.
Haven't watched it seriously since then.
 

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bahumat42 said:
always was bad
but it spawned awesomness like this

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Hey, she only needs to splash around like that for another thirty hours or so to turn into Gyrados.

But seriously, yes, it was pretty crap.
 

Raggedstar

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I wouldn't call the anime crap. Cheesy? Yep. Cheesy can be good, and so was Pokemon in it's early years. It was a commercial product of a franchise that brought a little something (much like Digimon, though Digimon I believe hid it more). Though it did go downhil pretty fast, and now whenever I can hear the whole "I'm gonna be a Pokemon Master" from Ash with a straight face all I can do is facepalm.
 

Tax_Document

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I showed my little cousin the original Pokemon and he laughed at how terribly corny it is.

Yes, it's laughable even for an eight year old with ADHD.