"Hatred" Reveal Trailer. Or as I like to call it, "The Next Big Controversy"

[Toblo1]

Trailer is disturbing as fuck, and I assume the game will be disturbing too, but I see a positive side to this thing....

If the game is deliberately trying to be controversial, then there's a good chance that Jim will rip this game a new A**hole on an episode of Jimqusition. Because a game like this is the last thing we need in gaming's current situation and this one needs to be shut down. HARD.

 

[Antonio Scott]

Trailer is disturbing as fuck, and I assume the game will be disturbing too, but I see a positive side to this thing....

If the game is deliberately trying to be controversial, then there's a good chance that Jim will rip this game a new A**hole on an episode of Jimqusition. Because a game like this is the last thing we need in gaming's current situation and this one needs to be shut down. HARD.

I don't think so. Look at other games that get away with it. GTA is an example. A better example is the "No Russian" mission in MW2. They got away with it. Yeah that last one was controversial but people that knew games didn't question it too much. How is this game controversial while others get away with it? Cause the devs are unknowns and so no one is gonna support them.

 

[Antonio Scott]

Anyone notice how the link provided in the description of the youtube video? The one that goes the games site? Notice how kid friendly the game presented in the site actually is? Yeah we got played like a fiddle.

 

[chadachada123]

This game really looks like Edge: The game. This image has never been so usable:

That said, it looks fun as fuck, because instead of your 'enemies' running towards you (zombies, etc), they're trying to run *away,* which might make for some interesting gameplay. Note the person running under the windows while the PC sprays across them.

My favorite part, though, and something that is poorly lacking in basically every game in exiestance, is the destruction physics. Pay attention to when he's shooting indoors. Shit flying everywhere, furniture and paintings being blown to pieces...looks pretty damn beautiful. Looking forward to more footage.

Also, I think that their release is tied to the #GamerGate issue. They KNOW that this game would become insanely well-known if it was announced right now. Brilliant strategy, if they did.

I want to say that maybe the devs idea behind this is to make you feel very uncomfortable and conflicted about what you're doing especially watching those close-up executions. Making you question your actions etc.

But then I could be giving the devs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

...aaaaaaaaay too much credit.

Haha, I'm 99% sure that you do. Doesn't seem like the kind of game that encourages you to make moral choices.

I mean it be great in a Spec Ops kind of way if that WAS the point, but in the same release they claim to be bucking the trend of artsy games... so it's slaughter for the sake of slaughter.

On their website they mention "getting inside the mind of a serial killer," so there may be more to it in the finished product. Maybe it really was just gameplay with nothing about the, er...story.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

I had to watch it again, this time in fullscreen to make sure I didn't miss anything. And yeah, this is very, very distasteful. I know it's a game, but even in video games I absolutely hate unjustified violence. And this is just waaaaay too much. I remember really hating some of the death screams in Mass Effect 2, especially those of female NPC's. They were horrifying. And this game seems to be all about horrifying death and begging for mercy. I won't judge anyone if they want to play this, but it's definitely not for me.

I'm with you, buddy.
I was watching that with a serious "what the hell" look on my face, it really disturbed me.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

definitively not my thing

I couldn't get over the voice, I ended up thinking "Wow, Duke Nukem went emo..."

hah

 

[Vault101]

this looks very tasteful and I cannot wait for 12 years old little psychopaths to get their hands on it.

I'm just gonna pretend it was actually scully in a witch hat that said that...

OT: ehhh one of those things that will probably fizzle and go away in time

And this is just waaaaay too much. I remember really hating some of the death screams in Mass Effect 2, especially those of female NPC's. They were horrifying. me.

[sub/]I thought the on fire female death screams were kinda funny[/sub]

but yeah I agree

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

Well I say that pushing boundaries is always good, even if it rustles some jimmies. Who knows, this could be a great $5 Steam sale game somewhere down the line.

 

[kickyourass]

I honestly can't see this as getting any more controversy than any random GTA knock-off. If anything most of it will probably talk more about the idiotic sounded "Grrr I'm the most serious thing ever" bullshit than the violence.

 

[Dragonlayer]

I am so stealing the term GENOCIDE CRUSADE for personal use.

Looks like it could be fun to play, in a "Hurr, I'm killing everyone!" sense, which is what I expect the developers were going for and how people will play it, all draped in a cover of pseudo-realism for edgy shock value. I do think killing sprees could be done in gaming format, but it would have to be treated a lot more seriously than this: perhaps a choice-heavy game about someone suffering from depression/severe anxiety/what have you, being bullied and unfufilled by life. Each choice would seemingly improve the character's position at first but the fates would conspire against them in one way or another until they are pushed closer and closer to what they think is the only way out, ending with a fade-to-black screen with the sounds of someone climbing the church tower, the gunfire and screams and then a news report that offers only a streamlined and palatable explanation for the tragic events.

 

[small]

God damn, man. I was expecting something *mildly* offensive at best, like that boring ass JFK assassination simulator at best, this is just sheer undeniable BAITING for contreversy.

You want an honest opinion? Something tells me from the way the gameplay looks, that perhaps they were thinking it wouldn't sell too well without that FOX News "fair and balanced" news segment that says "Hatred: Hyper-Realistic mass murder simulator, Training our kids to shoot up their schools?"

I doubt I'll be playing it unless it gets some positivity going after it's released, and even from the looks of it, it may have to be on sale.

and for once in fox's long and nasty little history they would be right.

i might be getting old but that looks totally fucked up

 

[Dragonlayer]

It's a bit dated, don't you think? The "long haired, trenchcoat wearing loser who listens to metal" is very late-90s/early-00s. It's almost as if they've decided enough time has passed to make Columbine: The Game a thing.

The first thing that popped to mind when I saw the character was "Trenchcoat mafia".

 

[TakerFoxx]

The concept: pretty disturbing. To be honest, as much as I dig darker media (yeah, yeah, point to ava), I always get pretty disturbed by the whole killing for the sake of killing genre, with torture porn and whatnot. Which is odd, seeing how I was a big slasher movie fan back when I was a teen. But yeah, if there's an actual story-related reason with real weight to it? Yeah, I can dig it. But when it becomes really realistic and fetishistic it does sort of bother me.

The actual violence: not...as bad as I thought. Seemed roughly about the same as the gazillion other gory games out there.

The execution (pardon the pun): stupidly edgy. Like, to parody levels. It's like something that walked out of an eighties comic book.

 

[Mezahmay]

Let's see...washed-out color palette except for red, check. White male protagonist, check. No advertised mechanic except for shooting, check. No story to overcomplicate the situation, check.

Yup, looks like game design by numbers. Don't care. Won't purchase. Only difference I noticed immediately between this awful shooter and other awful shooters lately is that this guy is literally nameless instead of figuratively nameless and his trench coat has extra-dimensional pockets.

 

[sataricon]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
especially if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

I would guess it's because there's no chance I'll never actually be a deadly virus.

But we could all be mass-killers if we wanted, or at least try.

 

[Bombiz]

Gameplay look boring as fuck. And it doesn't seem to have any challenge to it at all. It's just pretentious/angsty crap "fuck the world look at me not give a fuck i'm da best #genocidalcrusade"

That said, it looks fun as fuck, because instead of your 'enemies' running towards you (zombies, etc), they're trying to run *away,* which might make for some interesting gameplay. Note the person running under the windows while the PC sprays across them.

What? Thats not fun. It's God Damn annoying. It's like great i have to waste my fucking time chaseing down the fucker. And for what? Oh man you sure got that unarmed person who was literally of no consequence and a complete wast of my time. Fucking Great. Cookie Clicker, Clicker Heroes, Angry Birds, and GemCraft are games with way more interesting mechanics then "enemies run away".

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

Because Plague Inc Evolved is just way more fun then this games looks to be. In Plague Inc i get to develop and evolve a virus using a set of interesting mechanics. In Hatred it just looks like your guy is invincible and goes around shooting shit that doesn't even present a modicum of challenge.

 

[Mezahmay]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

Plague Inc: Evolved uses numbers, bars, and a world map to represent an abstract representation of human death. There's no active human violence and the gameplay is closer to a 4X strategy game. Hatred and games like it have you the player actively going around and actively senselessly killing people, showing blood, weapons, etc. There's an expectation of how humans are supposed to behave and this game radically ignores that. A virus' sole purpose is replicate, which is exactly what happens in Plague Inc. That's the mindset you are placed in when you invest in producing a virus, with the UI, gameplay, and win conditions reflecting such. People have some reservations about humans behaving like viruses. I don't really because this game just isn't worth the time to care based solely on this trailer.

 

[sataricon]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

I would guess it's because there's no chance I'll never actually be a deadly virus.

But we could all be mass-killers if we wanted, or at least try.

So you do think that playing a video game can turn you into a psychotic killer?
Wow.... Jack Thompson would be happy to hear that.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

Plague Inc: Evolved uses numbers, bars, and a world map to represent an abstract representation of human death. There's no active human violence and the gameplay is closer to a 4X strategy game. Hatred and games like it have you the player actively going around and actively senselessly killing people, showing blood, weapons, etc. There's an expectation of how humans are supposed to behave and this game radically ignores that. A virus' sole purpose is replicate, which is exactly what happens in Plague Inc. That's the mindset you are placed in when you invest in producing a virus, with the UI, gameplay, and win conditions reflecting such. People have some reservations about humans behaving like viruses. I don't really because this game just isn't worth the time to care based solely on this trailer.

Is this one worse than plague inc because in plague inc you don't see the death that your plague has cause?
So it's only bad when you see the effect but the thought itself is ok?

 

[sataricon]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

Because Plague Inc Evolved is just way more fun then this games looks to be. In Plague Inc i get to develop and evolve a virus using a set of interesting mechanics. In Hatred it just looks like your guy is invincible and goes around shooting shit that doesn't even present a modicum of challenge.[/quote]

So it's bad because it lacks the mechanics?
But as far as of now this isn't clear because it's just a trailer.

I think you may be judging this game not based on mechanics but on something else.
Which is fine by me BTW.