Scars Unseen said:
pulse2 said:
Axelhander said:
pulse2 said:
Today we have females wearing skimpy outfits and demanding to be respected by men no matter what they wear, personally, I'm sorry, but I can't respect you dressed like that because it's clear you don't respect yourself
You heard it hear first, folks: skimpy outfits are worn only by people who don't respect themselves. It must be true because "pulse2" is waxing poetic about the lost arts of being lady-like and gentlemanly.
Furthermore, can you blame me?
I never blame someone's bigotry on their upbringing. We are mostly adults here and are therefore responsible for our own actions and words. You should be capable of reason, and pure logic tells me that if people you claim have no respect for themselves are telling you otherwise, you are not holding an opinion by maintaining your belief. You are just plain wrong. Making false claims. Unsubstantiated assertions. Lies.
You can view others how you want. You can say what you think of them and it won't bother me at the very least. You cannot, however, tell others what they think of themselves and expect us to take you seriously.
Taken out of context.
THAT is my opinion and it can't be a lie or an assumption unless I stated it as fact for "everyone", what goes on my head is up to me alone, you nor anyone has as much right to tell me what I should and shouldn't think about people in the same way I may or may not have the right to judge, but I want to hear others opinions on the matter, whether it is with or against my initial point, what may be a sign of self respect to you is not a sign of self respect for me.
Take Amy Winehouse for example, her behaviour, drug abuse and alcohol abuse to me is again not a sign of self respect. She can do what ever the hell she wants with herself, but I can't be expected to cry over her death even if I liked her music, and even if dressing half naked isn't bodily abuse, to me its just an attempt to draw attention to parts of your body you want people to pay a keen interest in rather then what YOU as a person are about. Your breast size and level of exposure doesn't reflect your personality, your education or your emotions, all it says to me is "Look at my breasts, they are out on show for you to oogle at and ignore anything else, otherwise I wouldn't have to thrust them so lovingly in your face as we speak, oh, take a look at my ass, its sticking out of this tiny skirt I'm wearing, forget my personality and successes in life, just take a look at my rear end with my thong finely cut between".
I have not imposed any opinions on you, in fact I clearly asked you for yours and stated mine as well.
Women themselves express disgust at the way other women dress so it has nothing to do with males vs females, its purely about who I, or you or anyone here defines as someone worthy of being respected and what we interpret as self respect. I don't believe EVERYONE has self respect, no, nor do I need or want to respect "everyone" in the world, its impossible, you earn respect through your actions.
FernandoV said:
Even though I'm the first to judge someone on what they wear, once I actually meet them it's their personality that lets me decide whether to respect them or not. They can dress like the sluttiest of sluts but if they're intelligent I couldn't care less.
Exactly, this is the point I'm getting at, which is why I admitted that my initial prejudice can be wrong sometimes, but everyone prejudges in some way or form and if they say they don't I beg to differ, they just don't always reveal it.
