Why the fuck would the Pope apologize for what happened to the Jews in WW2?TheMatt said:
He had nothing to do with it. He didn't know about it. He didn't support it. So why would he apologize and why should I care?
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He had nothing to do with it. He didn't know about it. He didn't support it. So why would he apologize and why should I care?
Pretty much this.sallene said:
Just because someone does something horrible it does not mean you should do the same to them. That accomplishes nothing.
Like... We believe that everyone has the right to life, except people who disagreeZeroMachine said:
You know what someone should do?
Write a song about it, then do a lot of drugs, then remix the song while on drugs, then write songs about how overrated being a rock star is, then write more songs about your experiences on drugs, then write more songs about how the public causes this stuff to happen simply by reacting so energetically to it, then write more songs about how fame causes people with talent to give up their principles, then write more songs dedicated to some girl, then write songs about the pain of breaking up with that girl combined with the pain of a world that doesn't recognise your brilliance.
Write a song about it, then do a lot of drugs, then remix the song while on drugs, then write songs about how overrated being a rock star is, then write more songs about your experiences on drugs, then write more songs about how the public causes this stuff to happen simply by reacting so energetically to it, then write more songs about how fame causes people with talent to give up their principles, then write more songs dedicated to some girl, then write songs about the pain of breaking up with that girl combined with the pain of a world that doesn't recognise your brilliance.
Well, the Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth. So he definitely had something to do with it, and he definitely knew about it. His father was a outspoken activist against it, in fact. Though you definitely have an argument for he didn't support it, as he was described as being an unenthusiastic member, and didn't attend meetings. I'm not saying he should apologize, but I do think there is an argument that he should. But I also suspect it has less to do with the pope himself, and more to do with the Churches general apathy towards the Holocaust.Internet Kraken said:
I really cant believe we are still talking about this. Some nut kills a guy who happens to work at an abortion clinic. Regardless of whether or not the guy knew that is irrelevant, he is still a nut and the vast majority of people disapprove strongly of what he did. I for one am very much against abortion and I still believe the guy should be killed himself (I'm also for the Death Penalty too by the way and no those two stances do NOT contradict each other as one life is innocent and the other is not among other reasons).
The article does not give much detail about the killer.NoMoreSanity said:
But everyone already assumed that he was killed because of he was an abortionist. I was hoping that people had learned not to jump to conclusions.
You asked for proof of what I claimed, I can provide it. As I mentioned, I back up my arguments with FACTS, I don;t call ppl trolls, or Al-queda, I use logic and reason. Something you and your fanboys evidently do not. Anyway, like I said message me if you want to see it.Internet Kraken said:
What are you talking about he didn't know about it? How old do you think he is? He's not exactly a spring chicken. He's an 82 year old GERMAN, I'm betting someone passed him the memo. Stop being stupid on purpose.
I said I didn't know about the role of the pope in WW2. I don't know much about the pope.TheMatt said:
Where are you going with this anyways? I recall your original point being that all troubles in the world are caused by religion. Several other people and I then pointed out that this is simply not true. So what are you trying to prove now?
Also, I've explained many times why I compared you to a fanatic in the Middle East. They discriminate based on religious beliefs. You are discriminating based on religious beliefs. Care to explain how you're different?
Jeez, where do I even start with this?Kukul said:
The Hippocratic oath says, at its very base level, not to cause suffering in your work. This abortion doctor did no such thing, as the legal limit for abortion is when the fetus begins to suffer. Until it does, abortion is okay. The doctor, on the other hand, was a full grown person. He had hopes, aspirations, almost certainly a wife and kids, perhaps friends or elderly relatives that doted on him. And now he's dead. That murder caused infinitely more suffering than that doctor ever did, or arguably ever would.
Second, it doesn't matter what the murderer believed. Jihadists believe that if you kill a load of non-Islamics, they'll go straight to Paradise when they die. It doesn't make the act of mass murder RIGHT. If a crazy women from Ipswich believed - honestly truly believed - that the world would end unless she assassinated the PM, and she did so, it still wouldn't change the fact that she MURDERED, which is AGAINST THE LAW. Personal belief doesn't even come into it.
As for your third point: Perhaps it does. Still doesn't make the murder right. I consider you a deeply immoral person for even suggesting that.
I'm certainly not a supporter of murder (unless its Robin Williams), and I'm probably pro-choice but believe they should have stricter laws for abortions (I don't want my tax dollars sent to some rich 16 year old who can't figure out how to use a fucking condom) but this is still pretty fucked up.
