Have you ever considered suicide?

[Blatherscythe]

Nothing. The first time I tried and failed. The second time I went at it again and got stopped.

what I would say is its not worth it. No matter whats going on, nothing is worth death. thats why its called a permanent probblem to a temporary solution.

Let me guess, you took a cynide pill, put a rope around your neck and jumped off a cliff with cement blocks taped to your feet into the water below. The rope then broke, the tape on the bricks came apart and the jerking motion of the rope made you puke up the cynide pill. You then spent a good few days in the hospital with hypothermia.

Note that was a joke.

 

[Dethpixie]

"Dying voluntarily implies that you have recognized, even instinctively, the ridiculous character of that habit, the absence of any profound reason for living, the insane character of that daily agitation, and the uselessness of suffering." The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus.

I really enjoyed this quote, good find man.

Read the whole book, it is under 100 pages. It can change the way you see the world.

I'll look into it after I get through my school reading list. It's only about $13 too which is a great incentive too.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Abuse ... if I didn't do the goals I wrote on the calendar my roomy used to write the most awful of insults and libel on the calendar and on sticknotes she put over the dates I had originally penned with goals or pursuits.

It was a game she used to play. Funny as all hell. Foulest mind you'll ever meet, guaranteed.

And no, I don't want to get it. I don't want to imagine it <.< No sympathies ... it's your job to make your life meaningful. Shouldn't look to others to give you purpose, and you can't expect sympathies from people. Either get better or don't. Life isn't meant to be easy.

No point in living if it were easy ... things would be far too boring.

Find something you're good at and do it. Hell, better yet find something you're crappy at and spend your life trying to better that personal failing. I saw kids who did nothing with their lives, then complain about it once they grow up ... and what do you expect from others?

As per your response before the last one one, it's not about being 'lucky'. If somebody works hard at making their lives better, then they deserve commiserations if they fail. If someboldy doesn't even try or failed and then gave up, then what sympathies can be given?

If you don't want to understand it, don't judge me. That's an incredibly rude thing to do and makes no sense to boot.

You say I don't deserve sympathies, but what the hell do you know? Who says I haven't tried and tried and tried? Who says I haven't looked for purpose and meaning? Who says I haven't tried to reach goals and looked for new ones when I failed? Who says I even want to look at other people for purpose, where the hell did I say that?

Remember the bunker-analogy I used? One can only take so many punishment, so many failures and disappointments. The batteries simply run out at one point.

All points are relative to the individual. Life is a perpetual trial by fire. And I'm not judging anybody, I'm doing the opposite. All people are given an expected benchmark to follow and a series of standards that are expected to be met. No sympathies = no preferential treatment.

No person deserves sympathy except when the unforeseen raises it's head. Checks and balances. No sympathies are given, because then you throw out all the checks and balances if you do.

It's wrong to expect others to feel bad about your conditions. If one allows their affliction to rule them, then battle is lost. A person no longer becomes greater than the sum of their parts and instead literally become the sum of their afflictions. Only the individual can rectify this, sympathies get in the way of recover at best ... damaging at worse.

Would you prefer someone to give you sympathies for your condition, or would you want someone telling you to 'get over it' and do something about it?

 

[Olorune]

I've recently been diagnosed with cynical depression, so pretty regularly. I've weighed the pros and, to be honest, the cons out-weigh the pros, but I some things are just worth sticking around for. Besides if I'm going to die, I'm going out in a blaze of bullets, fire, glory, and honor in some god-forsaken warzone. Probably join the Army or something. *shrugs*

 

[NorthernTrooper]

Well, it's definitely in my genes since both my parents suicided, but no I've never personally though of it.

 

[chocolatekake]

I've thought about how it's an easy way out. I've never considered it seriously.

Why? Because of my mother and father. In my case, my parents are divorced, but they love me and have treated me amazingly well. I couldn't do that to them. To have them discover my dead body or have to clean up after my suicide, I could NEVER EVER do that to them.

Plus, suicide is for pussies. It's called the easy way out for a reason. My advice to anyone considering suicide would be to live your life one day at a time. Everyone has problems, we all need to find ways to deal with them and just muster the courage to keep going. If you need medication, talk with a doctor. Depression and anxiety are very common these days.

Try some new hobbies. Get out there and people watch if you have no money. Go to a park, appreciate the good things in life

Put your problems and your life in perspective, it's never that bad.

Ask someone who's ever seriously thought about it and backed away, then tell me it's an easy way out. I'd say it takes just as much guts to kill yourself as anyone else.

Suicide is a pussy move. If you're a big enough pussy to kill yourself but too big of a pussy to actually do it, you should find someone who will. Troll someone else.

I think you're mistaking an attempt at normal, civil conversation as trolling. I was merely saying (although I admit, more pointedly than I intended) that it seems like you don't know what it's like to be depressed. Everybody handles things differently and what's too much for one person may not be too much for another. It seems heartless to say it's "never that bad" when really, it might just be that bad for someone. Depression and suicidal thoughts are a delicate matter and should be dealt with a fair deal of understanding and empathy.

 

[roysourboy]

Abuse ... if I didn't do the goals I wrote on the calendar my roomy used to write the most awful of insults and libel on the calendar and on sticknotes she put over the dates I had originally penned with goals or pursuits.

It was a game she used to play. Funny as all hell. Foulest mind you'll ever meet, guaranteed.

And no, I don't want to get it. I don't want to imagine it <.< No sympathies ... it's your job to make your life meaningful. Shouldn't look to others to give you purpose, and you can't expect sympathies from people. Either get better or don't. Life isn't meant to be easy.

No point in living if it were easy ... things would be far too boring.

Find something you're good at and do it. Hell, better yet find something you're crappy at and spend your life trying to better that personal failing. I saw kids who did nothing with their lives, then complain about it once they grow up ... and what do you expect from others?

As per your response before the last one one, it's not about being 'lucky'. If somebody works hard at making their lives better, then they deserve commiserations if they fail. If someboldy doesn't even try or failed and then gave up, then what sympathies can be given?

If you don't want to understand it, don't judge me. That's an incredibly rude thing to do and makes no sense to boot.

You say I don't deserve sympathies, but what the hell do you know? Who says I haven't tried and tried and tried? Who says I haven't looked for purpose and meaning? Who says I haven't tried to reach goals and looked for new ones when I failed? Who says I even want to look at other people for purpose, where the hell did I say that?

Remember the bunker-analogy I used? One can only take so many punishment, so many failures and disappointments. The batteries simply run out at one point.

All points are relative to the individual. Life is a perpetual trial by fire. And I'm not judging anybody, I'm doing the opposite. All people are given an expected benchmark to follow and a series of standards that are expected to be met. No sympathies = no preferential treatment.

No person deserves sympathy except when the unforeseen raises it's head. Checks and balances. No sympathies are given, because then you throw out all the checks and balances if you do.

It's wrong to expect others to feel bad about your conditions. If one allows their affliction to rule them, then battle is lost. A person no longer becomes greater than the sum of their parts and instead literally become the sum of their afflictions. Only the individual can rectify this, sympathies get in the way of recover at best ... damaging at worse.

Would you prefer someone to give you sympathies for your condition, or would you want someone telling you to 'get over it' and do something about it?

I see what you're getting at, but it's never as easy as just "getting over it" when genuine, clinical depression is involved. It can manifest as a hopelessness you just can't shake sometimes, however much you try, or however logically you try to think about your life.

In response to the topic, I've thought about it many times, even tried once or twice when suffering from a particularly bad bout of depression. But touch wood that's all behind me now, and even when feeling low I no longer go down that route of thinking suicidal thoughts.

 

[katsumoto03]

Once. I was young and attempted to hang myself. It eventually snapped and when I fell I knocked myself unconscious. When I awoke I dunno. I just didn't want to do it anymore, though the urge frequently returns. Especially when I walk by bridges.

 

[Blue Musician]

Yes, I have many times. I'm not sure what made me change my mind though...

 

[Krunkcity3000]

Yes, I was kind of hoping Bobby Kotik would perform it on himself.

 

[Pips]

I've recently been diagnosed with cynical depression,

Heh. Sorry, it's not a funny subject, but that typo amused me.

Yes, I have contemplated suicide. Still do. I suffer from depression, and have some pretty awful scars from earlier in my life.

To the "it's a pussy move" people, I'd have to say that's not true. Attempt suicide, and your body gives you a classic fear response. Your heart pounds, your adrenaline surges, your hands shake. Your body knows it's about to die, and it reacts.
It takes a lot of courage to open your veins and watch your blood pour out. Likewise, imagine taking a bottle of pills and then waiting for them to kill you, knowing that you're about to die. That's scary stuff, and not a cowardly act.

To the "it's selfish" excuse, I'd say that it's more selfish for others to expect someone who is in an agony of misery to live with it just to save them from grief.

Someone posted earlier that they'd understand someone terminally ill and in pain wanting to suicide, but not someone depressed. That person clearly doesn't understand that when you're really, truly depressed (not just temporarily a bit miserable) it HURTS. There's a well of despair in my heart, and it makes my chest physically painful when I'm at my worst.

I'm only still here because I'm a writer, and I honestly believe I have stories worth sharing with the world. I want to leave my work behind. Trust me though, if I still feel this way by the time I've written all of the thirty or so books I'm writing/have planned, I'm a dead woman. /wrist. Bye bye. To hell with living with this pain any longer once I've no reason to.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Snip

I hardly see it as a joke, but no. I was much more simplistic.

 

[adderseal]

I think death is so deeply ingrained in our subconscious that we think a lot about it, and inevitably our thoughts will, at some point, turn towards the idea of suicide. It's a curiosity about death, and about the unknown that lies beyond, that draws us to this. I guarantee you that if anybody here says they have never, not even off-handedly, thought about killing themselves then they are lying. It doesn't need to be a serious thought- only an abstract idea that leads you to think about what happens after death, the impact your death would have on other people and how they would feel if you were gone. If anybody has tried, or is seriously considering suicide then I can't help them because I have never been in that situation. However, I think we should all accept that thinking about death, and suicide, is simply part of our nature.

 

[Ca3zar416]

Of course I have considered it. Not seriously, but I've wondered what life would be like without me around. But I never thought about actually doing it because I enjoy life too much. I don't think anything happens after I die so there is definitely no way I'm going to intentionally cut mine short if I can avoid it.

 

[chocolatekake]

Life can be harsh and if your unlucky you can end up in situations where you long for death but do not have the option. Situations like that can be hard to recover from and the idea of death as a goal can stick with you throughout your life.

People often say suicide is the easy way out, or a cowards way etc but that is not true. I is often a very difficult decision and much harder then just staying alive and waiting for death to come naturally. In addition many people do just that while mindlessly walking through life and using up resources because they have no motivation.

The truth is though that usually suicide is a selfish act even if you do not have anyone who will be upset/hurt if you die. If you have no reason for living, why not use your life to help others who do? Help mothers who are trying to raise children by themselves, help homeless who can't get their feet under them or just help others who have suffered but still want to live by being there and understanding their pain.

Of course it's not easy to avoid suicide if that is what you really want, but if you are making a difference in other peoples lives it's quite likely you will eventually start to find joy in your own.

Time is an illusion and everyones life eventually ends. The time between now and when we all die will be gone in a blink of an eye but in that blink we can all make a large difference in how much suffering there is in the world. You don't have to dedicate your life to helping others, but your life will have meaning and it will be worth living if you try and make everyone else's life a bit better as you can. By friendly, help others as you can and the rest will work itself out.

I am not actually against suicide in many instances. If your in constant pain or do not have the possibility to do more then suffer through life....I think suicide is the best option to be honest. Life without meaning is just waiting, and if you add suffering into the mix then it is just torture. Find meaning in your life, even if it is only through others and suicide will not seem like the only option anymore.

I think I love you.

 

[Magicman10893]

I probably will in about 20-30 years when my family history of painful heart disease and high probability of cancer catches up with me. For now I figure a quick, mostly painless death is better than wallow around for 20 years in pain, taking a dozen prescriptions and dealing with the horrible health care system that has me paying spending more money going in and out of hospitals and doctor's offices in a year than most people do in 10. But we'll see if I survive the first heart attack or not to determine whether I go through with it or not. And based on the fact that I don't want children to pass this horrible future onto, the chances of survival are pretty slim right now. Maybe if I collapse in public or at least in the company of friends and family I might have a chance, or could power through it and manage to call 911 myself.

 

[chocolatekake]

I do feel bad for people with anxiety and depression. I suffer from them and take medication to attempt to minimize their affect on my life. However, I do feel that unless you're being raped by your dad or are kidnapped by a mad surgeon and turned into a human centipede, life is never bad enough that you should actually kill yourself. I can understand misery, I can understand pain, I can understand depression. Everyone goes through different forms of agony, but you MUST find a way to deal.

What I was saying by "easy way out" is this; when you think of how much easier it would be to not have any more feelings, not have any more thoughts, it's much simpler than carrying on and having to deal with those thoughts and feelings. This in turn leads to depression, making suicide look like the "easy" out. See what I'm saying?

Well, I'm glad to see you have empathy. And sorry to see you have problems with depression, as I do as well. I do agree that you should try to find a way to deal with everything, but I do believe that there is a breaking point. Maybe that's just me and a few others though.

And I can understand that not feeling anymore and not dealing with anything is easier than living with it all. I guess when people say "easy way out" it seems like they're saying it's easy to kill yourself. That might be a fault of mine assuming such a thing, but it certainly does seem to be the case most of the time.