Have you ever loved a series/francise so much that you DIDN'T want to see it continue?

[Freaky Lou]

Way more than FO3 for reasons explained in my previous reply.

Plot continuations and factions are present in Fallout 3 as well. Just because New Vegas is set in Nevada, on the west coast, which means it makes sense for the NCR to be there, doesn't make it more legitimate.

Explain to me how the Fallout storyline is progressed in any way in FO3. They use a lot of the same names, yes, but they are completely detatched from the actual factions as presented in the other games.

Whereas in NV they're progressing in a way that's congruous with how they were developing in the previous entries. It also continues to develop the story of the same region, whereas FO3 does not touch any of the things affected by previous games.

 

[Zeraki]

Mass Effect

I decided a long time ago(before Mass Effect 2 even came out)that I would complete the trilogy and that would be it. Because I knew it would start getting milked Halo style after the main trilogy had concluded.

 

[solemnwar]

Way more than FO3 for reasons explained in my previous reply.

Plot continuations and factions are present in Fallout 3 as well. Just because New Vegas is set in Nevada, on the west coast, which means it makes sense for the NCR to be there, doesn't make it more legitimate.

Explain to me how the Fallout storyline is progressed in any way in FO3. They use a lot of the same names, yes, but they are completely detatched from the actual factions as presented in the other games.

Whereas in NV they're progressing in a way that's congruous with how they were developing in the previous entries. It also continues to develop the story of the same region, whereas FO3 does not touch any of the things affected by previous games.

Yes, God forbid we get to take a look at what's happening in the rest of the former US. It's the same universe, there's the same shit, Bethesda just decided to take a look at the opposite side of the country for FO3, and they will be doing so again for FO4 if the rumours are to be believed (I hear it will take place in Boston?). What more can really be told of the West Coast, anyways? Things seem to be well in order over there, it's a touch boring, and why I still prefer FO3 to FONV.

 

[Angie7F]

I also think Simpsons is something that went way over its shelf life.

 

[Freaky Lou]

Yes, God forbid we get to take a look at what's happening in the rest of the former US. It's the same universe, there's the same shit, Bethesda just decided to take a look at the opposite side of the country for FO3, and they will be doing so again for FO4 if the rumours are to be believed (I hear it will take place in Boston?). What more can really be told of the West Coast, anyways? Things seem to be well in order over there, it's a touch boring, and why I still prefer FO3 to FONV.

Yeah, it's a diversion from the main story to look at something else going on. A spinoff.

And like I already said I think the Fallout storyline might be pretty much wrapped up in NV; to progress further in the same area would be to turn the series into straight sci-fi and no longer really post-apocalyptic. Things are definitely not "in order", and there's still a lot of intrigue, but it's no longer a lawless, devastated world---only FO1 had that really.

 

[Easton Dark]

Explain to me how the Fallout storyline is progressed in any way in FO3.

They use a lot of the same names, yes, but they are completely detatched from the actual factions as presented in the other games.

Whereas in NV they're progressing in a way that's congruous with how they were developing in the previous entries. It also continues to develop the story of the same region, whereas FO3 does not touch any of the things affected by previous games.

Not just factions, such as the Brotherhood and Enclave, but side-stories as well like Harold.

The enclave, as told to you by President John Henry Eden, is a continuation of the Enclave from the west coast after its defeat.

The brotherhood, feeling (wrongly) secure in the west coast, decide to expand. It makes total sense to me why they'd want to send brotherhood members to the pentagon. They explain this to you.

The "detachment" of the factions (which largely don't exist on the west coast anymore) is part of the story. And it makes sense.

What would not have made sense in Fallout 3 was if the NCR and Caesar's legion were there. It makes sense in New Vegas because, as you said, it's in the same region. As it also makes sense the the brotherhood and enclave remnants are there. But if the only argument for New Vegas is it's set closer to California, that's not good enough. Just because we don't see these factions in Fallout 3, it doesn't mean they stopped existing for that game. They're just thousands of miles away, fighting for Hoover Dam.

The courier isn't more related to Fallout 1 and 2 than the kid from vault 101. The deathclaws are not descendants from the smart ones in Fallout 2. Jacobstown is about as strong a connection as Harold is. I'd actually argue that the bobbleheads are more connected to the first fallouts than snowglobes.

And Fallout 3 has freaking Dogmeat.

Anyway... "closer" does not equal "truer". That's my opinion.

 

[Casual Shinji]

RE4 - Much more action oriented, no zombies, space bullcrap.

Space? Space what?

I've played this game to death, but I can't remember anything regarding space. You mean the space in the attache case or what?

 

[Easton Dark]

RE4 - Much more action oriented, no zombies, space bullcrap.

Space? Space what?

I've played this game to death, but I can't remember anything regarding space. You mean the space in the attache case or what?

The las plagas are space slugs to my knowledge.

 

[Freaky Lou]

Not just factions, such as the Brotherhood and Enclave, but side-stories as well like Harold.

In FO2 Harold was the mayor of a growing little town, and quite happy with his lot. Why has he traversed the continent and amassed a cult of idiots.

The enclave, as told to you by President John Henry Eden, is a continuation of the Enclave from the west coast after its defeat.

This actually damages your argument. It's not a "continuation" of the Enclave, just a regurgitation. The whole idea behind the Enclave was that they were remnants of the old US government who'd survived because they were far offshore in a high-tech oil rig. They'd only just started moving into the mainland in FO2, with only a few small bases. In the end of FO2, the oil rig is destroyed, leaving just scraps of the Enclave to be hunted down by the BoS. Yet here they are in FO3, having reached the opposite side of the country, with numbers far, far above what they had at their peak in FO2, with legions of soldiers wearing the rare expensive power armor and fleets of EXTREMELY rare vertibirds. How did they pull this off?

The brotherhood, feeling (wrongly) secure in the west coast, decide to expand. It makes total sense to me why they'd want to send brotherhood members to the pentagon. They explain this to you.

But the Brotherhood were not secure even in FO2. The NCR, Vault City, and Enclave had all emerged as credible competitors. They definitely were not at any time ready for a trek across the continent.

The "detachment" of the factions (which largely don't exist on the west coast anymore) is part of the story. And it makes sense.

It doesn't make sense, as explained above.

What would not have made sense in Fallout 3 was if the NCR and Caesar's legion were there. It makes sense in New Vegas because, as you said, it's in the same region. As it also makes sense the the brotherhood and enclave remnants are there. But if the only argument for New Vegas is it's set closer to California, that's not good enough. Just because we don't see these factions in Fallout 3, it doesn't mean they stopped existing for that game. They're just thousands of miles away, fighting for Hoover Dam.

I didn't say that the NCR, Followers, Legion, etc. should have been in FO3. I actually think they should not have used existing factions at all, for the reasons above. What I'm saying is that FO3 is completely out of place alongside the other FO games, in every way. It largely doesn't feature the things that make Fallout Fallout and when it does it gets them wrong.

The courier isn't more related to Fallout 1 and 2 than the kid from vault 101.

Nope, but the world he acts in is.

The deathclaws are not descendants from the smart ones in Fallout 2.

That wouldn't have made sense because the intelligent Deathclaws get exterminated in FO2.

Jacobstown is about as strong a connection as Harold is. I'd actually argue that the bobbleheads are more connected to the first fallouts than snowglobes.

Nuka-Cola and Vault Boy don't make a Fallout game. I'm saying the PLOT does not in any way follow up on the plot from the first two.

And Fallout 3 has freaking Dogmeat.

Well yay.

 

[Drummodino]

House. Seasons 1-3 are amaazing and 4-7 I really enjoyed too (Olivia Wilde woo!) but why oh why did they make an eighth? I really wish the season 7 ending had been the ending to the full series. Season 8 served very little purpose in my opinion.

 

[mysecondlife]

Uncharted.

I've seen everything it could offer. Jungle, scorching hot desert, snowy Himalaya mountain, war-torn city and so forth.

 

[bafrali]

Bastion, Bastion, BASTION. It ended on THE perfect note and If I see any other hack developer that tries to tinker with it with a sequel, I will find them and I will kill them.

 

[Mr. Eff_v1legacy]

Silent Hill above all. The new entries, try as they might, fall short in every single regard compared to 1-4. As far as I'm concerned, the new teams are continuing a story that is not theirs to tell.

Resident Evil - yeah, 'nuff said.

 

[Casual Shinji]

RE4 - Much more action oriented, no zombies, space bullcrap.

Space? Space what?

I've played this game to death, but I can't remember anything regarding space. You mean the space in the attache case or what?

The las plagas are space slugs to my knowledge.

Really, I thought they were just prehistoric creatures. If they were from space, it must've been written in some file that I never bothered to read.

 

[solemnwar]

Yes, God forbid we get to take a look at what's happening in the rest of the former US. It's the same universe, there's the same shit, Bethesda just decided to take a look at the opposite side of the country for FO3, and they will be doing so again for FO4 if the rumours are to be believed (I hear it will take place in Boston?). What more can really be told of the West Coast, anyways? Things seem to be well in order over there, it's a touch boring, and why I still prefer FO3 to FONV.

Yeah, it's a diversion from the main story to look at something else going on. A spinoff.

And like I already said I think the Fallout storyline might be pretty much wrapped up in NV; to progress further in the same area would be to turn the series into straight sci-fi and no longer really post-apocalyptic. Things are definitely not "in order", and there's still a lot of intrigue, but it's no longer a lawless, devastated world---only FO1 had that really.

No, it's a new story. You're allowed to do that with creative works. I'm reading a series right now that has done just that. Same place, but during a different time period and with different characters. Sort of like what The Elder Scrolls does, yes? It's the same world, but with completely different stories, characters, taking place in different provinces, etc.

Fallout: New Vegas has absolutely nothing to do with the plot of the first 2 games. It just happens to take place in the same setting. The Courier has absolutely zero affiliation with the Vault Dweller/Chosen One, or even vaults in general. The Mojave has only JUST been put into NCR control within a fairly recent time period. It's the very, very edge of NCR territory, which began in California. All the game is, really, is a little tip of the hat to old fans. Take a little DETOUR from the east, while Bethesda is working on their other games, to take a little peek as to what is going on in the west, before going back to the east.

And there's plenty of post-apocalypse to explore. In the east. Where Fallout 3 took place. And where Fallout 4 will probably take place.

And really, if you think about it, it ALL ties together, doesn't it? You're looking at different areas of the former United States, slowly gaining some semblance of order after a horrific, catastrophic event that destroyed virtually everything. You can't just stay focused on one area, you need to look at how other areas are handling themselves, see how they differ from the other areas. There's a whole country to explore- a whole world really, if you think about it- and yet you're really content to just sit and STAGNATE in one little corner?

 

[Scarim Coral]

Eureka 7 come to mind.
I was content with the ending despite having some possible rooms for a sequel however what they went with for Eureka 7: AO just only alienate itself from the fans up until that certain scene appear. Even then it's still disjointed when it link up with Eureka 7.

 

[talker]

that doesn't make any sense to me. i don't care if the show is commercialized. there are lots of tv shows i liked and never stopped liking, even at the points other people said they thought it had totally lost its meaning/plotline/humour/fill in for yourself.

 

[Snotnarok]

The Phantasy Star series, no not Online, or Universe, because that has nothing to do with Phantasy Star.
The original series ended and it was a connected series of 4 games (maybe more if you count the ones that you could play on game gear or via the online service they had in japan) but the game series were all interconnected and it was all brought together with Phantasy Star IV. Lots of things were answered, and the game had a lot to offer including a very set ending that I don't think could continue without ruining the story. Some say Online is connected but they're wrong because the series is over with IV.

CAPCHA: Sod's law

I might be of a different opinion if I played the original Phantasy Stars, but I thought that Phantasy Star Online was pretty damn good. The subsequent iterations, Phantasy Star Universe and Phantasy Star Zero (and by the looks of it PSO2) just haven't managed to live up to PSO's quality. The amount of time I put into that game is ridiculous.

I'm not saying PSO is bad or shouldn't have been made, only saying that it has NOTHING to do with the original series. There's an attempted connection, but it doesn't work because of what happens in PSIV, nothing I'm going to spoil. But The Phantasy Star series is 100% over, PSO, different series/unvierse with the same terms. It's the difference of Final Fantasy game to any other FF.

 

[Tropicaz]

As has been said, Scrubs. They should have done what the creator wanted and call it Med School, not carry on calling it scrubs. It wasnt scrubs.

Also Buffy. The Dawn/Key storyline and ending to season 5 was amazing. As much as i did still enjoy s6&7, I felt it should have ended, to be honest.

 

[Ishigami]

BioShock

I like BioShock and BioShock Infinite (never bothered with 2,: IMO pointless money grabbing sequel). I wouldn't say I worship them but I think they are carefully crafted experiences and in of themselves complete.
So I hope Irrational Games realizes that continuing BioShock seems rather pointless and turn towards a new IP.
Though I doubt Take2 will let it rest...

In retrospective I would say I would have felt better if they did not continue StarCraft, Mass Effect, Resident Evil or Metal Gear Solid.

Yea everything has to be a franchise now god forbid something is produced that stands alone...