Have you ever loved a series/francise so much that you DIDN'T want to see it continue?

[vasiD]

There is no "Main Fallout Storyline". Each game is set in the same world, but none of the games are anything more than tangentially related to each other. Fallout 3 may be set in a completely different location with different characters etc. but so is New Vegas, so there is no reason to claim that it is any more a "Main" part of the series than 3. I also don't see how it is tonally more "Fallout" than 3. It may be a bit more evolved in that aspect, but nowhere near enough to claim that it is a main part of the series over 3.

There definitely is a main Fallout storyline. In Fallout 2 you're a descendant of the PC from FO1, and a lot of the same characters and locations are in the game. The governments of the little settlements from FO1 have developed based on the (canon) choices of the Vault Dweller. They have a STATUE of the Vault Dweller in Shady Sands, and a now-old Tandi talks about him frequently. New Vegas doesn't follow FO2 THAT directly, but it follows the developments of the same factions and is set in the same general area---FO2 had New Reno, which is also in Nevada. NV also has a TON of plot elements that are direct continuations of some of the ones in FO1/2, and many, many small references. It is part of the same series.

FO3 is actually at its worst when attempting to emulate the earlier games and I really wish they would have just come up with completely new factions rather than just ruin established ones---ones that didn't make any sense existing on the opposite end of the continent anyway. It is a spinoff at best, an impostor at worst. Not a part of the main series.

The best point you could make is that since Bethesda owns the liscense now, their Fallout world is now the canon one and FO3 is basically FO1 now. But it has got nothing to do with the other Fallout games, br0.

Especially the apearence of the Enclave. I mean fuck Bethesda, would it be so hard to come up with some other faction that, oh I don't know say, originated in Washington?!!!

You know, the place where there would have likely been several Vaults FULL of former world and military leaders, the type of people who are LIKELY to form a faction bent on domination post-apocalypse.

Todd Howard:
Nurp, kuz i lik da Enclave!!! And bro of Steel will be lik knights dawg!!!!



That said, Bethesda did save the franchise from slurping down Bawls for the rest of it's life at Interplay. They made one hell of an engine (glitchy though it may be), and even let New Vegas happen. In a way it's sort of the best we could hope for after Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. And given how much better Skyrim is I genuinely look forward to Fallout 4 (though infinitely more so to Wasteland 2).





OP: Kojima needs to stop Metal Gear.

 

[BodomBeachChild]

Metal Gear, Lost (I actually watched it years after it was over, but I wished it to be over around the middle of season 4), Mass Effect, DBZ, Gundam... Assassin's Creed. Not sure how many others but plenty.

 

[Theminimanx]

I would absolutely hate an official Code Geass sequel. I love things that expand upon the lore, but making anything that takes places after R2 would destroy the ambiguity of the ending. We'll leave that for fanfics, which have the benefit of being able to take the story in any direction that seems interesting, without ruining the canon.

 

[ninjaRiv]

No, I want my favourite franchises run into the ground. It's people like me that are gonna get the next Splinter Cell and help is succeed. Fuck it, I think it looks good. But the more I like a franchise, the more I'll stick with it and want more. I only ever don't carry on with a franchise if they do something fucked up. Like with Kojima and the Hayter thing. I don't know if I can support the game after pulling a shitty stunt like that.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Halo.
Just.Let.It.Die.
Please?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

May I direct you to my Finding Dory thread? Yeah, I don't want it, Nemo is fine the way it is.

 

[Marik2]

Ah! My Goddess!

Not that I am afraid they will take it a direction I would dislike, the manga has been consistently good for like 25 years now, I just want a conclusion.

I want an ending, some sort of resolution, is that too much to ask?

woah that is still going?

thought that manga ended years ago

been meaning to pick it up

 

[Sutter Cane]

Yeah maybe Bond. Maybe. I just don't like how they've screwed all the cool gadgets over and even made references that cool gadgets are not "2012" enough

You do realize that the bond series got its start as a series of books that are much coler to the current Bond films than what people consider to be the "bond formula" correct? The recent movies have been a much needed return to Bond's roots, not a betrayal of the origins of the series.

Yeah I read the first few books, they were alright. I still really like the gadgets regardless of how ungadgety Bond's roots were. I loved the laser watch, exploding pen, invisible car etc etc. They made Bond this guy who always had this little trick up his sleeve and it was fun to see how he would use all this stuff he had been given in the most creative ways. They were fucking COOL!

When did I go on about a betrayal anyway? I liked the gadgets, they removed the gadgets therefore i'm a little bit sad. The new Bond films are still good but I don't care for them as much as the old ones.

fair enough. I've just run into a lot of people who are convinced that the Craig films "aren't true bond movies" because they lack crazy gadgets, cheesy one liners or things like secret volcano layers, none of which feature prominently in the original source material. Since I'm a big fan of the books, stuff like that is a huge facepalm worthy moment for me.

Honestly I think the gadgets are fine so long as they use them in a clever way (such as tricking boris with the exploding pen, or the ways bond uses his special keychain in The Living Daylights). I just hate the idea that some people have that you have to shorehorn in crazy gadgets just for the sake of having gadgets because it's a bond film, you know?

 

[Requia]

I think New Vegas, with its ending that basically has you deciding what direction civilization in the wasteland will take from here on out, is a fitting end to the series. 3 entries is a good amount for any franchise anyway.

New Vegas was far from the third game in the Fallout series. It was the sixth.

OT: I think that any series that has so run out of places to go that it can only be rebooted should end.

Three that count.

I'm with the Mass Effect Crowd, its was its own self contained thing, I'd like to see more space opera from Bioware, but with a new franchise.

 

[Broderick]

I'm really surprised no one has said mlp since the fandom was all.

About the whole alicorn Twilight thing.

Eh, I figure most people calmed down about it after seeing the episode; even though the views on the episode are mixed at best. Perhaps all that Derpy in the episode calmed peopled down? I was more worried about the implications of Twilight being a princess rather than an alicorn really. Is the show still going to be framed in the same way? Are "friendship lessons" over and a new type of episode structure is introduced? I figure it will be more or less the same, but I hope they do it without any copouts.

As for my contribution...I would say spyro. He had a good run, but most of the games after "Year of the dragon" kinda...sucked. Don't get me started on that "Skylanders" crap.

 

[Olas]

Don't judge me, but Smallville totally deserves to be here. The show was pretty good up until about season 6, then it went strait down the gutter, lost most of it's good cast members, and become almost an unironic parody of itself, but stayed on the air for 4 more painful to watch seasons. (I only kept watching because I wanted to follow it through to the end)

 

[AngloDoom]

Another for Firefly here.

I may be in the minority saying this, but I disliked Serenity. In fact, it left a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like they took all the characters and put them through some sort of tropes sorting machine that overwrote half of their character traits for the sake of making them look 'badass'. I know a lot of people liked Serenity but I just pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[CryoSynth]

I'm not the kind to feel that past things can somehow be ruined by the future, so no. If I enjoyed a first installment/series/thing and they make a second I don't like, it doesn't change the fact I enjoyed the first.

The thing is though that only really applies to things that are self-contained. I don't like TV/anime series that just go on and on forever. I want a beginning middle and end, so I can move on.

It's something that always kinda bothered me with the Devil May Cry series, Dante is always just doing the same thing, and he never really struggles, so I've always been waiting for when he'd just go into hell and wipe it out basically. Or some more revelations about his parents.

Whereas say with Metal Gear, I'm always content because it has a timeline with various interlocking events and changes. If it had just been the endless adventures of Solid Snake, part of the army just tackling various missions every week, I'd have disliked such. But Snake's story progressed to a conclusion, so I'm content. New games are okay because they're filling in the gaps in the timeline.

 

[Verlander]

Game of Thrones (books). As the writing continues, his roots in screen writing are coming through more and more, and very late introduction of supposedly important characters doesn't work in a novel setting (and arguably won't work in the television series either). Also, it's been drawn out to the extent where, when it finishes, it could end as just a really overblown mess, rather than the fantasy epic that it started out as. I'd hate for it to end up a failed experiment really.

So yeah, end soon please, regardless of how much money the publishers are throwing at you. I appreciate that in television, a series can potentially be drawn out forever, but not in books. Stop.

 

[HoneyVision]

Probably Final Fantasy. At the rate it's going, I really want it to stop. It's a bad bad slow death.

 

[Captain Sunshine]

After seeing the recent thread on the new Dragon Ball Z movie I got to thinking and actually this has come up before I've just never asked about it. I'm guessing, considering how many people keep clamouring for more and more sequels, that most people are going to answer "no," but tell me have you ever loved something, either a game or movie or tv show franchise, so much that you actually didn't want to see it continue any further? It could be for any reason, either you feel it's reached it's peek and any further installments would only ruin it or whatever.
I think I've already made it clear from my introduction what MY answer is.

Ooo good thread idea.

DEFINITELY Final Fantasy VII, after being so hyped for the Advent Children movie and then being so disappointed. Crisis Core was pretty good but still not worth having to slog through AC, Dirge of Cerberus and seeing Gackt dressed up as a character in the game. Pretty bad.

 

[synobal]

I'm pretty sure everyone who ever watched Supernatural wanted it to die at the end of the fifth season.

Pretty much this. The 5th season was done complete and now that they've decided to continue they won't be able to find an end so satisfying.

 

[Gypsyssilver]

have you ever loved something, either a game or movie or tv show franchise, so much that you actually didn't want to see it continue any further?

Hmmm. Only retrospectively.

I'm always willing to give new things a chance - especially if they're based on something I love.

But if they fail to live up to what has come before... I just pretend they don't exist.

I pretend a lot of things don't exist:

-There was only one Matrix movie.

-The last half of Death Note was never made. Timeskip? What timeskip?

-Dark Knight Rises? Nope, that doesn't exist either - there were only two Batman movies with Christian Bale.

-A Huge part of the Naruto anime doesn't exist for me. Was it in the Manga? No? Then it didn't happen. Ditto Bleach - except with that one I have to fudge over some of the Manga too. Butterfly? Really!?

-Heroes? There was only one season.

I used to be more of a completionist - but now I pick and choose what I want to keep. Makes buying a series a lot cheaper and I don't have to keep wading through the third-rate flotsam and jetsam that pretends to be part of the original's world.