Have you ever won a 'supposed to lose fight'?

[Teh Jammah]

Ser Cauthrien in Dragon Age, when you first fight her while rescuing Anora. When I first stumbed upon the fight, I was shocked at the apparent unfairness of it. Almost 10 Archers, two Mages, several Fighters and Cauthrien herself, who could drop my tank in 2-3 hits. I lost the first few times I tried, but I never waited for the death screen (which wouldn't happen since I was supposed to lose) and always loaded the game when the fight turned sour.

Finally, I ran, kited Cauthrien and her fighters halfway across the level, got them in a small room, disposed of the mooks and started whittling down Cauthrien. Every member of my party died multiple times (thank god for 2 mages with Revive) and I spent a good portion of my diligently hoarded stock of Health Poultices, but by the gods I took her down and then went back to mop up the archers and the mages (combo cast a Storm of the Century and block the only exit out of the room).

Afterwards, I went to the Bioware forums to ***** about the insane difficulty of the fight. I found a thread on that very same subject, where a Bioware dev replied, pointing out that by winning that fight players skipped an entire section of the game (prison escape, which is hilarious), at which point I quietly fired up the game again, loaded the save before the fight and lost it on purpose...

Trapping the bejesus out of the hall they spawn in works as well. That's how I eventually beat that one when i came back to it on another playthrough. Provided one of your party has a point in the trap skill and another (who doesn't need to be in the active) is maxed out for craftingl, you build a couple of lures, some sleep draps and a few of the direct damage ones with large AoE and that fight becomes much easier.

Espiecially of you open up with something like fireball, which knocks people flying. which counts as movement. which sets off traps.

 

[Wintermoot]

sort-off in mech quest but they would send another boss untill I died

 

[DragoonX13]

In a fighting game called Yu Yu Hakusho: Dark Tournament, the first battle is you without the ability to use any of your special attacks against a toned down version of the final boss, and this is a supposed to lose fight.

Even if you can win, the game's narrator calls it a fluke and has you do the training missions anyways.

 

[MadeinHell]

I did in fact win a few hopeless fights... Most of them were not predicted by the game so I ended up in limbo but that is not important.

The one I'm most proud of is defeating "CLOWNS" in Dwarf Fortress.

Spoiler

If you dig far enough you find "cotton candy" = Adamantine, the most powerful material in the game. Thing is, once you start mining it WILL probably find hell. (literally), demons will start attacking you and killing everyone in your fortress. Usually this means the game is over and you can pretty much abandon the fortress and look for another place to play in.

But I survived! My Dwarves fought bravely (even though 3/4 th of them died) and pushed the "clowns" back far enough so we could cause a cave in that would trap all my enemies FOREVER!
That was my most glorious and exciting moment in Dwarf Fortress.

Oh yeah an hour later everyone in my fortress committed suicide/murdered each other due to Tantrum spiral (since 3/4 of ALL my dwarves were brutally murdered).
That was fun .

 

[TheEvilCheese]

I know this question may sound stupid to some, but I bring it up because in some games you actually can win a 'supposed to lose fight'. Usually however it ends up with your character losing anyway. Personally I have won two of said fights in games, one in Kingdom Hearts and another in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. How about you, my fellow escapists?

Yeah, In DBZ Boudakai tenkaichi 2.
The fight where you are hercule versus Perfect Cell and you have to survive for a short amount of time. He has a couple of attacks that can 1-hit you and I STILL managed to kill him before the time ran out. Hard mode is fun.

and yeah, hercule is by far the worst character in the game.

 

[DTWolfwood]

didnt win it but only because i got bored surviving it. cant remember what game tho

on another note, i managed to survive and win in a 2v1 ganking in DCUO when i was lvl15 against 2 lvl19 ^-^

and at lvl30 in a 3v1 pvp fight XD

 

[Penguinness]

My mate, getting bored of losing, took my pad from me when we were playing a Dead or Alive game, he then proceeded to beat my character up and gave me my pad back when I was 1 hit from dieing.

I still won.

 

[can't-think]

Demon's Souls. First battle against the turd monster.

NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW I DID THIS EITHER I WAS A ROGUE.

Same, I died first time I played through the tutorial because I panicked, every time I make a new character I kill him for revenge.

 

[DanDeFool]

In Chrono Trigger, when you first come face-to-face with Lavos, he does his "Destruction rains from the heavens" attack, which is supposed to K.O. your party in one turn. On a New Game +, if your stats are high enough, you can survive the attack and defeat Lavos right there.

Yeah, In DBZ Boudakai tenkaichi 2.
The fight where you are hercule versus Perfect Cell and you have to survive for a short amount of time. He has a couple of attacks that can 1-hit you and I STILL managed to kill him before the time ran out. Hard mode is fun.

and yeah, hercule is by far the worst character in the game.

That's amazing, considering that in the show Hercule is just a stronger-than-average normal guy and Perfect Cell could probably blow the planet up by looking at it funny.

What happens when you defeat Perfect Cell with Hercule, anyway?

 

[Karilas]

I know this question may sound stupid to some, but I bring it up because in some games you actually can win a 'supposed to lose fight'. Usually however it ends up with your character losing anyway. Personally I have won two of said fights in games, one in Kingdom Hearts and another in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. How about you, my fellow escapists?

Yeah, In DBZ Boudakai tenkaichi 2.
The fight where you are hercule versus Perfect Cell and you have to survive for a short amount of time. He has a couple of attacks that can 1-hit you and I STILL managed to kill him before the time ran out. Hard mode is fun.

and yeah, hercule is by far the worst character in the game.

Is Hercule the American name for Mister Satan?

 

[UnderCoverGuest]

Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast: Revenge of the Colon.

Fighting the end boss on one of the mid levels, you're meant to lose to him. While I'm fairly sure it's impossible to kill him, I lasted a VERY long time. Like, 10+ full minutes before I died and hit the cut-scene. Crazy.

Hrrum...there's only one supposed to lose fight in Jedi Outcast, and that's with Desann on Artus Prime--the mining world place where Jan--shhh--and you leave mercenary work to find your lightsaber and embark on an epic story of--shhh!

Problem is Desann has force and you don't, so he ought have lightninged, gripped, and thrown his saber at you a good million times in those ten minutes.

My supposed to loose fight was on Call of Duty 4 I think. I got pissed off at constantly being treated like some rookie, and so I killed Price. Not sure it was much of a fight, but even after his death the game just sort of, didn't end--at least until I jumped from the top of a tower with a cooked hand grenade on top of a thrown flashbang next to some highly explosive computer monitors that resulted in me missing the rope, endangering team mates, and non-tolerated friendly fire. Skills!

 

[Lesd3vil]

I can remember a few of these.

Most especially Beatrice in FF9, you can be happily kickin' her ass and then she uses stock break and your entire team gets reduced to 1HP... Which wouldn't usually be too much of a problem, except that in both cases it triggers a cutscene ending the fight.

Also in FF7 when you're being chased by soldiers after the first mission, you kill them as they come and they keep coming from each alleyway... And again, during the mission where you jump off the train, if you run down the tracks towards the screen there's a passageway with a soldier outside, if you kill them constantly you can level up your limit breaks, I'm not sure they ever stop coming...

In FF12, when you're in the magicite mines, you rescue Penelo from Ba'Gamnan and his cronies, they chase you out of the mine. You're SUPPOSED to run away at this point... I ate them alive

There's one at the start of Shadow Hearts, where you fight against Roger Bacon, and another shortly after with the Fox-mask dude.

In Devil May Cry 3, no matter how hard you kick Virgil's ass in the first fight, he always kills you in the cutscene :/

I guess 'unwinnable by default' depends on your point of view. If the game developers make a fight that CAN be won, even by the narrowest of margins, they should account for it and give you an alternate branch... Giving you the opportunity to seriously own someone then say, 'oh, by the way, you lost' in a cutscene is a bit of a copout

OH YEAH!!! And the Midgar Zolom in FF7, I ate that alive too, and stole Beta from it, which served me well for the next 5 hours or so of gameplay, hahaha

 

[Jedoro]

Ser Cauthrien in Dragon Age, when you first fight her while rescuing Anora. When I first stumbed upon the fight, I was shocked at the apparent unfairness of it. Almost 10 Archers, two Mages, several Fighters and Cauthrien herself, who could drop my tank in 2-3 hits. I lost the first few times I tried, but I never waited for the death screen (which wouldn't happen since I was supposed to lose) and always loaded the game when the fight turned sour.

Finally, I ran, kited Cauthrien and her fighters halfway across the level, got them in a small room, disposed of the mooks and started whittling down Cauthrien. Every member of my party died multiple times (thank god for 2 mages with Revive) and I spent a good portion of my diligently hoarded stock of Health Poultices, but by the gods I took her down and then went back to mop up the archers and the mages (combo cast a Storm of the Century and block the only exit out of the room).

Afterwards, I went to the Bioware forums to ***** about the insane difficulty of the fight. I found a thread on that very same subject, where a Bioware dev replied, pointing out that by winning that fight players skipped an entire section of the game (prison escape, which is hilarious), at which point I quietly fired up the game again, loaded the save before the fight and lost it on purpose...

My friend made an Arcane Warrior and killed them all single-handedly. No kiting, and I think the rest of his party died.

 

[Angerwing]

Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast: Revenge of the Colon.

Fighting the end boss on one of the mid levels, you're meant to lose to him. While I'm fairly sure it's impossible to kill him, I lasted a VERY long time. Like, 10+ full minutes before I died and hit the cut-scene. Crazy.

Hrrum...there's only one supposed to lose fight in Jedi Outcast, and that's with Desann on Artus Prime--the mining world place where Jan--shhh--and you leave mercenary work to find your lightsaber and embark on an epic story of--shhh!

Problem is Desann has force and you don't, so he ought have lightninged, gripped, and thrown his saber at you a good million times in those ten minutes.

My supposed to loose fight was on Call of Duty 4 I think. I got pissed off at constantly being treated like some rookie, and so I killed Price. Not sure it was much of a fight, but even after his death the game just sort of, didn't end--at least until I jumped from the top of a tower with a cooked hand grenade on top of a thrown flashbang next to some highly explosive computer monitors that resulted in me missing the rope, endangering team mates, and non-tolerated friendly fire. Skills!

That was the fight. I survived by running and kiting him around the ships while I tried to figure out how to kill him. As I said, crazy.

 

[BlueSinbad]

There was that fight with leon in KH1, but that's the only one I have 'won'.

Squall....his name is SQUAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!! ahhh fan boy rage over, personally my favourite FF character, alongside others....How did you beat him!? he was a beast!

 

[WarKirby]

Mr Lemon, Shining Force II.It's one of those fights where even if you win, he goes "oh but I have orders to take you alive, I can't let you leave. Guards get them!" and then you end up in prison anyways

There was also a fight in Skies of Arcadia Legends with on e of the main bad guys in valua, I lost that but it did seem winnable.

 

[kabooz18]

tales of symphonia against cratos
Eternal sonata against... actually I don't remember his name... I think he had a monocle



FF-X the blitzball game... I think this should not count as you're not supposed to loose it's just open and up to your skill whether you do or not since it has actual consequences if you don't loose

 

[MattRooney06]

In Jedi outcast you fought a Sith called Desan (or somthing like that), this is before you get your lightsaber so your supposed to get your arse kicked from here to tatoine, my friend didnt relise you were supposed to lose, everytime he died he would restart the level, i came round and killed the sith really easily...unfortuanatley this crashed the game

I think i'm just some kind of Jedi