Heroes that are Oddly Evil

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Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.

Anyway...

Rorschach. Think about it for a minute. It's pretty ironic isn't it?
 

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TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
 
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TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.

Anyway...

Rorschach. Think about it for a minute. It's pretty ironic isn't it?
I'm on the third book now, "Brisingr" I think thats how its spelt.
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Soturos and Manardi from Golden Sun.
They were trying to save the world but had a "by any means nessecary" attitude towards it and were the antagonists of the game.
No way! People besides me played that game? Did you play the second one, "The Lost Ages" I believe.
Yes I did.
I think Karst and Agatio wern't written as good as Sotorus and Manardi, the game tried too hard to make them the Antagonists.
All I remember is that I went back to the first found all the Djinni and wrote down a million numbers to transfer my data to the second. That was not fun, neither was doing it twice. Having all 8 characters in a party was neat though.
 

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Dr. Paine said:
TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
Indeed, I actually like the books (*gasp*), but Eragon really isn't a likable character in the first two books, then in the third he's less annoying, but much more of a sociopath.
 
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Spiner909 said:
All gods that aren't Zamorak in RuneScape.
Zamorak is THE evil god.
Wyes said:
Dr. Paine said:
TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
Indeed, I actually like the books (*gasp*), but Eragon really isn't a likable character in the first two books, then in the third he's less annoying, but much more of a sociopath.
I enjoyed the books so far, and how exactly is he unlikeable in the first two?
 

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Sora, not in the sense that the others in this thread are. Unintentionally helps Organization XII quite a bit.

Jack in Bioshock, even though he really had no power over his actions, well unless you played evil in which case he is doubley so.

I'll go ahead and add to the Golden Sun love, great games, maybe my favorite GBA games period, I'm psyched for the DS one.

Lelouch Vi Britannia. /agreed
 

Dr. Paine

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Wyes said:
Dr. Paine said:
TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
Indeed, I actually like the books (*gasp*), but Eragon really isn't a likable character in the first two books, then in the third he's less annoying, but much more of a sociopath.
See, he was just the bland everyhero to me in the first one, it was the gaping plot and logic holes (not to mention the writing itself) that drove me away. It was later that I figured out just how batsh*t crazy he was.

And this may really just be my lack of reading the actual books, but... is there ever any real evidence provided for why the 'empire' is so evil? People seemed fairly well off, which is what a good empire does. Sure, the riders fell, but what were they actually doing for anyone? (The entire story behind the rider's beginning seems shoddy to me, mainly because how the HELL could anyone, elf or not, be lucky enough to land a single arrow into a place that would instantly kill a dragon? And how could a dragon be raised like that without trying to snack on the elf, since that was before the whole 'magic pact solved it' explanation existed.)
 

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John Constantine of Hellblazer fame.

He's only the good guy because he sometimes faces off against Evil itself. Even when he does, his reason for doing so are hardly alturistic; generally, he's just trying to save his own ass.
 

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Dr. Paine said:
TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
thats the thing about eragon. its not about good or evil. actually, infact that is one of its major themes of the books; what is good or evil? what makes a person good or evil? how far can you go to stop evil, before you become evil as well?
most of the characters, including eragon, i rarely classify as good or evil, i classify them as human. they arent nesicarily good or evil, they are just everyday people, placed into extrodinary cercumstances. i think this is a big part of the books' charm. its not just simply lord Eviltin versus Duddly Doright, (tho you could make a good arguement for the main villian being truely evil~)
 

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tthor said:
Dr. Paine said:
TheDoctor455 said:
Wyes said:
Just gotta say it; Eragon.
In the movie, yes, I'll give you that, but read the book, in there, he's an entirely different character.
No, not really, I've read the books (to a degree. Read the first one, got halfway through the second, skimmed the third. But I have friends who've given me the story I've missed, as well as reading the wikis and various sporkings). He's still far from convincing me he's the good guy, or anyone in the resistance is.
thats the thing about eragon. its not about good or evil. actually, infact that is one of its major themes of the books; what is good or evil? what makes a person good or evil? how far can you go to stop evil, before you become evil as well?
most of the characters, including eragon, i rarely classify as good or evil, i classify them as human. they arent nesicarily good or evil, they are just everyday people, placed into extrodinary cercumstances. i think this is a big part of the books' charm. its not just simply lord Eviltin versus Duddly Doright, (tho you could make a good arguement for the main villian being truely evil~)
That would be a great explanation if- A, I could actually read and understand all of it, and B, word of god hadn't already said he's trying for the epic 'good vs evil' thing. He wants to paint a black-and-white morality, but he forgot to put up the Scotch tape.
 

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Jak from Jak 2-onwards

I've probably killed more people in my attempts to save Haven city, than the actual bad guys have. Most were accidents (most...)
 

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Mark the Paratrooper said:
Demented Teddy said:
Soturos and Manardi from Golden Sun.
They were trying to save the world but had a "by any means nessecary" attitude towards it and were the antagonists of the game.
No way! People besides me played that game? Did you play the second one, "The Lost Ages" I believe.
Played it, loved it, glad to see other people do too. It was kind of weird because the only real antagonist is a blue-haired pansy who spends the entirety of both games helping you.
 

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Riddick, Deadpool and Guts (from Berserker)
Well, deadpool is a merc, you cant hold that agenst him

anyway, i would say Lelouch from Code Geass. The Narita thing just stook out form me

and the ending, i wont spoil it for anyone who dident see it, but it was messed up if you took a moment and thought about it (But hot damn was it amazing)