Hey everyone... Can we pool money together for to give to the victims?

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Estranged180

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Doclector said:
To be honest, I don't know what good money's going to do. The survivors are probably incredibly traumatised, I don't really know how money'll help that.

It's a nice thought though.
Money certainly helps with the financial burden of burying the dead, and the medical bills of those that survived. It'd be one less thing all those families had to think about. (as has already been stated. damn ninjas)
 

idarkphoenixi

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Guess this makes me the bad guy but I just don't see why they would need or even want the money. They lost family, friends but not homes or other valuable properties. Just saying, if I was one of the victims who lost a loved one that day, I wouldn't even know what to do with the money. I might even refuse it.

You're free to do as you want, if this is really worth the time and effort to you then who am I to stop it. Just my opinion that this doesn't really seem like an event I can imagine a charity fund being arranged for.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
Guess this makes me the bad guy but I just don't see why they would need or even want the money. They lost family, friends but not homes or other valuable properties. Just saying, if I was one of the victims who lost a loved one that day, I wouldn't even know what to do with the money. I might even refuse it.

You're free to do as you want, if this is really worth the time and effort to you then who am I to stop it. Just my opinion that this doesn't really seem like an event I can imagine a charity fund being arranged for.
I don't think that makes you the bad guy at all. You wouldn't know what to do with it and how could you? You just lost someone close to you. How does money fix that. Still the OP just wants to do something and he doesn't know what to do either. I'm betting he just came up with money because it's the only thing he could think of.
 

kortin

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Sorry, I'm much too selfish. Good luck with your money drive, though. ^^;
 

razer17

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I'm not really sure that these people need charity. They don't need charity. Although that said maybe with healthcare being what it is in the US, maybe some wont have any insurance, and won't be able to pay? However, I would never trust anything organised by some random dude on the internet, unless you could prove its going straight to a charity that would actually help with that.

I can't see that there's really going to be much of a drive for this. Maybe a mental health charity will try and provide some psychological help, possibly the Red Cross might get involved. But to be honest, I just don't think this will be all that helpful. What the victims need right now is their loved ones, not a cash injection.
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Look this is going to sound stupid as all hell, and I acknowledge that going in, but here was a group of people that just wanted to see a movie. They wanted to see a Superhero take on the bad guy and what not.

And, again, I don't mean this in the material sense.... Cause like yeah, they will never be with their families or continue to live full happy lives and thats sad... But I think it's all the more crueler that they went to The Dark Knight Rises expecting to see that flick and 12 of them now will never EVER get the chance to. I found that so incredibly fucking cruel....

...Than I found out a six year old died.

Six year old died because it wanted to see Batman. My fucking childhood hero, and more than likely heres a person IN THEIR FUCKING CHILDHOOD wanting to see their hero.

Again, it's stupid. Theres a fucking genocides happening in our world. I acknowledge that. Still I'd like to see if we could pool our money together and maybe try to compensate this small group of innocent people for being forced to have a really fucking bad day. No money won't bring back the dead, undo time and remove the mental scars... but lets do it anyway.

If a fucking pyschopath can be selfish enough to try to ruin a movie these people cared so much about to see a midnight premier, why can't we be selfless enough to give a gift?
This event is obviously a horrid tragedy, don't get me wrong. And I realise you yourself has acknowledged that there is worse things occuring in the world, but that kind of makes it worse. I'm sorry, but there are more important matters than this. This is horrible, but they don't need money. The fact that they were going to watch your childhood hero shouldn't motivate you, because that doesn't fucking matter. This fucking psychopath didn't "ruin a movie". He has killed some and ruined other peoples' lives. If you think it's cruel that these 12 will never get to see this film, you need to sort your priorities.

This drive to do good isn't bad, and your clearly a kind person, but maybe you should redirect it to something more important for better reasons.
 

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razer17 said:
I'm not really sure that these people need charity. They don't need charity. Although that said maybe with healthcare being what it is in the US, maybe some wont have any insurance, and won't be able to pay? However, I would never trust anything organised by some random dude on the internet, unless you could prove its going straight to a charity that would actually help with that.

I can't see that there's really going to be much of a drive for this. Maybe a mental health charity will try and provide some psychological help, possibly the Red Cross might get involved. But to be honest, I just don't think this will be all that helpful. What the victims need right now is their loved ones, not a cash injection.
SaneAmongInsane said:
Look this is going to sound stupid as all hell, and I acknowledge that going in, but here was a group of people that just wanted to see a movie. They wanted to see a Superhero take on the bad guy and what not.

And, again, I don't mean this in the material sense.... Cause like yeah, they will never be with their families or continue to live full happy lives and thats sad... But I think it's all the more crueler that they went to The Dark Knight Rises expecting to see that flick and 12 of them now will never EVER get the chance to. I found that so incredibly fucking cruel....

...Than I found out a six year old died.

Six year old died because it wanted to see Batman. My fucking childhood hero, and more than likely heres a person IN THEIR FUCKING CHILDHOOD wanting to see their hero.

Again, it's stupid. Theres a fucking genocides happening in our world. I acknowledge that. Still I'd like to see if we could pool our money together and maybe try to compensate this small group of innocent people for being forced to have a really fucking bad day. No money won't bring back the dead, undo time and remove the mental scars... but lets do it anyway.

If a fucking pyschopath can be selfish enough to try to ruin a movie these people cared so much about to see a midnight premier, why can't we be selfless enough to give a gift?
This event is obviously a horrid tragedy, don't get me wrong. And I realise you yourself has acknowledged that there is worse things occuring in the world, but that kind of makes it worse. I'm sorry, but there are more important matters than this. This is horrible, but they don't need money. The fact that they were going to watch your childhood hero shouldn't motivate you, because that doesn't fucking matter. This fucking psychopath didn't "ruin a movie". He has killed some and ruined other peoples' lives. If you think it's cruel that these 12 will never get to see this film, you need to sort your priorities.

This drive to do good isn't bad, and your clearly a kind person, but maybe you should redirect it to something more important for better reasons.
Perhaps.... thread is a by product of booze and my own feelings, and you're right...

Ugh, yeah maybe just giving these people a bag full of money IS stupid. Dunno, something to meditate on...

I should stress it's not about the movie, cause who gives a fuck about the movie? But at the same time these people died clearly wanting to see this movie really badly.

I don't want to give the impression that the movie is whats important, but the thing that really twists the dagger in my heart is that getting murdered before getting to see TDKR for these people is like the cherry in their shit sundae. clearly theres more important things, like the general loss of life or the people not seeing their loved ones but.... Six year old getting killed cause they wanted to see Batman. That tares up my heart, even more so because you know the only reason that 6 year old even liked Batman let alone got to see a midnight showing was because her father influenced that on her.

But yeah, bag full of money is stupid. I'll think this over tomorrow when I'm not perpetually drunk.
 

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You write well for a drunk person. I'm lucky if I can remember the password to my smartphone let alone my PC.
 

Oly J

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I haven't read all the replies or your responses to them but I'm all for giving money to help these people, a simple gesture isn't going to solve many problems but it can go a long way, the thought that people care enough to help counts for more than you might think
 

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Okay, this is going to make me sound like a complete arsehole, one way or the other, but I just gotta ask:

Why this one? Why this particular event?

There are people in severe need of help all over the world. I find it strange that people suddenly get generous because this particular bit of nasty shit went down in front of a Batman movie.

Besides, as others have said, money isn't really the issue in this case. They lost their family members, not their livelihoods.
 

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You can throw away your money if you want, but I'm not going to because I just don't care at all.
 

Mylinkay Asdara

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It's tragic. A lot of things are tragic. If you feel moved to set something up, you should. I'm sure some people will flock to it and others won't, because there are lots of things that are tragic pulling for our attention these days and different things strike different chords in people. Whatever your reasons are, I'm sure some help would be appreciated - though you might want to check if some fund or some effort or some requests have already been issues in the local area of the event that you could simply donated to and/or promote. The 'bag of money' isn't usually the important component in these situations, but the support that is attached to it - other human beings letting these human beings know that their loss is not the result of the entire world being shit, because some people do care about others, which can give them the strength to continue when faith in what they have believed to be their world has been shaken.
 

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I'm probably a horrible person for typing this but are you sure you're actually doing this for the victims?

And not to make yourself feel better?

Sounds to me like you feel horribly sad because this happened and now you want to do something to make yourself feel better. Again, probably a horrible person for saying this, but I think that's pretty selfish of you.

Do those people even want you involving yourself into their lives? Even if it's only to give them money? Do they want their tragedy posted all over the internet again to raise money so people like you can stop feeling sad about what happened by donating money?

Just leave these people alone man, they don't need you involving yourself in any way or form. Leave them in peace and carry your own sadness like they're carrying theirs.
 

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Because a visit from Bale and money can cure bullet wounds and mental anguish.

I have no need to feed my ego or anyone else's by setting up a charity or donating money and "being a good person". If you wish for a really big ego boost why don't you go over to the victims in hospital, change their bedpans and appear in a public service announcement about the horrors of cinema shootings.
 

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I feel for them and it's a nice gesture. But it's one I'd have to pass on, I have my own bills and family to pay for before I can look after others.
 

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No. They don't need money. They're not homeless or poor. It's not even a big tragedy. The fact that it's getting so much media coverage is insulting to the rest of the people on this planet who are suffering and dying in worst ways you could imagine. Yet no one gives a fuck. No one talks about it. And if no one talks about it it's not really happening, right? WRONG!

If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google 'Burma massacre' and see what's actually going on in the world. A hint so you'd know what to expect: they are burning babies alive! Among other things.

So fix your god damn priorities already.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
No. They don't need money. They're not homeless or poor. It's not even a big tragedy. The fact that it's getting so much media coverage is insulting to the rest of the people on this planet who are suffering and dying in worst ways you could imagine. Yet no one gives a fuck. No one talks about it. And if no one talks about it it's not really happening, right? WRONG!

If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google 'Burma massacre' and see what's actually going on in the world. A hint so you'd know what to expect: they are burning babies alive! Among other things.

So fix your god damn priorities already.
How can you say something like that Jensen? Especially after YOU broke into the Detroit Convention Center and opened fire on innocent civilians?!?!?!?