Hey everyone... Can we pool money together for to give to the victims?
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I agree it's a truly sad thing but moneys not the solution here.Zhukov said:
I started thinking maybe for counselling but that's another thing entirely with most of the population needing it already.
If something touches you enough to give money though, give it, it will help them out eventually.
Me? I give at least $50aus to Dessert Bus for Hope each year because I'm touched by the cause, being a child whom this charity would have helped I know what it felt like.
So if you can even fathom what they feel and want to do something to help them, give.
Your best bet would be setting up a neutral PayPal account, and then trying to find a neutral party within the area in which is happened to disperse the money.SaneAmongInsane said:
Wait what. Don't kill your self, I know how you feel and their are good people out there. When I read your post I started crying so please don't kill your selfWatson767 said:
for the random stranger begging. I dont know what to say, just talk to someone close to you.
Sure I'd chip in. I dont do charity in a very general sense but im quite happy to get behind specific causes. I had a friend who set up a Just Giving page but thats in the UK. I think this is the US equivelant: http://www.firstgiving.com/ but i dont know if what your donating to has to be an already registered charity.
If someone gets something going im in though.
If someone gets something going im in though.
First to the OP, very noble thought. Don't doubt yourself now, because of the many naysayers. There is still a lot of hate the US mentality on these boards and I can't believe can bring it into this thread. How do some of you think this is not a big tragedy? Not enough death? One senseless death is a tragedy.. Why is this getting so much press, because it's so random, lost life, tied to a big movie release. And yes the US News (CNN, MSN, Escapist, Fox, etc.) are all making news about it, because people want to read about it. And they are US based news agencies.. If no one clicked the links, they'd focus on something else.
To the angry posters who say they don't care. If you have to preference your statement with "I am probably a horrible person by saying this..." then maybe you should rethink what you are about to say.
Yes there are tragedies all over the world and no we can't help everyone. But just because someone wants to help out the vicitims of this one, doesn't mean they don't care about the others. I try to give to multiple charities every year, some local, some national and some global. I could probably give more, but I know I can't help everyone. Certain things are more personal and resinate with a person. So if he feels compelled to help, why not help him, maybe it makes him feel better.
As for money not helping, you may have no sense of what it takes in these circumstances. If you lose a loved one, there are expenses, just for the death itself. But the living, may nee counseling, or need some additional time off work. The people who were only injured, will have bills. If you only raise $500, would that make anyone's life financially better. No, but even maybe the simple thought that 100 online geeks thought enough to send $5 that theyre thoughts are with the vicitim, it may make someone smile for a moment and not think everyone in this world is out to get them.
And finally to the original question. I don't know how to set one up, but I will check back and see how things are going. At worst case, typically money to the Red Cross, is a good neutral donation where people go to help vicitms, but I am sure something more specifically will be set up.
Nice thoughts anyways..
To the angry posters who say they don't care. If you have to preference your statement with "I am probably a horrible person by saying this..." then maybe you should rethink what you are about to say.
Yes there are tragedies all over the world and no we can't help everyone. But just because someone wants to help out the vicitims of this one, doesn't mean they don't care about the others. I try to give to multiple charities every year, some local, some national and some global. I could probably give more, but I know I can't help everyone. Certain things are more personal and resinate with a person. So if he feels compelled to help, why not help him, maybe it makes him feel better.
As for money not helping, you may have no sense of what it takes in these circumstances. If you lose a loved one, there are expenses, just for the death itself. But the living, may nee counseling, or need some additional time off work. The people who were only injured, will have bills. If you only raise $500, would that make anyone's life financially better. No, but even maybe the simple thought that 100 online geeks thought enough to send $5 that theyre thoughts are with the vicitim, it may make someone smile for a moment and not think everyone in this world is out to get them.
And finally to the original question. I don't know how to set one up, but I will check back and see how things are going. At worst case, typically money to the Red Cross, is a good neutral donation where people go to help vicitms, but I am sure something more specifically will be set up.
Nice thoughts anyways..
The most tragic part is that it wasn't even a good movie.
I'm not sure that people who have the disposable income to watch a film in the cinema really need a charity. Hey, if you want to do it go nuts, but six year olds die all the time from lack of clean drinking water in less fortunate countries. Just saying.
I'm not sure that people who have the disposable income to watch a film in the cinema really need a charity. Hey, if you want to do it go nuts, but six year olds die all the time from lack of clean drinking water in less fortunate countries. Just saying.
I had to call this post out, because from a priorities perspective, I don't think you get it. I have read many of the stories from around the world and there are hundreds and thousands of tragic events going on. If you feel the need to "rank" them in your mind, go ahead, but because one in your opionion is more tragic than the other, doesn't make any of the others less tragic. So if you ranked the Burma/Myanmar issue #1, does that mean we should only focus on that one? Where is your cut off for tragedy and happenstance?Adam Jensen said:
Two little girls getting kidnapped in IOWA is getting huge press in the US as well, it's tragic. The Syrian uprising, is getting Huge press here (yes it took a back page the last TWO days), the bombing in Bulgaria, Egypt, the rise of Murders in Chicago. It's all aweful. But why condem the OP for saying I want to help this group, even if it's minor. I think many of us wish we could help more, but an individual can only do so much. If a small token of thought, whether written, monetary, etc, helps some of these victims, where is the harm?
Don't listen to people who cry over the internet about suicide. 99 out of 99.5 times its an attention grab. If they were serious they would have done it already.shinsei-J said:
Find a way of putting it into practise, then yeah, it's a great idea. But just talking about it makes everything anyone says on this thread one way or another moot.
...You big stupid Jellyfish.Hagi said:
Even if he does just want to make himself feel better, he's at least thinking of something that could benefit the victims. The in care survivors. We can't all be sure they can afford their medical bills, and if donating to make himself feel better ends up enabling people to stay in hospital and recover, then who cares if he's subconsciously just trying to make himself feel better? Everyone benefits either way.
I'm also fairly sure he's said in a post that he knows money won't make them magically feel better. And to be honest, if I'd been involved in a tragedy like this, I'd want an acknowledgement that people at least felt sorry for me. If no-one did anything, that would truly suck.
Oh, Norman.
This. This is the reason I am willing to give $50 minimum to this cause.SaneAmongInsane said:
Someone get this started. I want to help restore people's faith in their fellow man as soon as possible.
...Really? So that's the most tragic part of all of this? Are you serious? So, in your opinion, the WORST PART OF THIS incident is that the movie was bad? You can't think of ANYTHING worse? Fascinating.manic_depressive13 said:
I hope this is a joke and you're just trying to make a point at all the people responding negatively to this.Watson767 said:
Look, don't read the posts from people who are actually proud of their apathy. There are just as many good souls in this thread, and even so, the reactions of the few isn't worth placing judgement on the masses.
For all our faults, human beings still have an inherent good in them.
Money won't really bring back people their dead relatives.
Money CAN help people that would otherwise die though, maybe you should look into that. I'm not being cynical here, I'm just being rational. I know this isn't the same but I lost my mother a few months ago and having a huge pile of money thrown at me because of it would probably make me feel worse if anything.
This is why I got a bit annoyed when people threw something like half a million dollars at that bus monitor woman because she got bullied, sure it was horrific what they said to her, but why would you give all of that money to one person who, lets be honest, doesn't have it half as bad as some people do right now.
Money CAN help people that would otherwise die though, maybe you should look into that. I'm not being cynical here, I'm just being rational. I know this isn't the same but I lost my mother a few months ago and having a huge pile of money thrown at me because of it would probably make me feel worse if anything.
This is why I got a bit annoyed when people threw something like half a million dollars at that bus monitor woman because she got bullied, sure it was horrific what they said to her, but why would you give all of that money to one person who, lets be honest, doesn't have it half as bad as some people do right now.
Essentially this, just because this one case was on the news (in all fairness it was the most brutal thing we've heard for a while), it doesn't mean people aren't going through worse right now. Tunnel vision on charity is a very strange thing to do, you end up giving special treatment to a select group of people that don't necessarily deserve it more than other people going through the same/worse stuff.Easton Dark said:
Thus, doing nothing at all is the correct answer, voiding any moral responsibility any of us might feel.Matthew94 said:
Okay, here is my overall response to the people trying to apply this type of thinking as to why the rest of us shouldn't be doing this:
No. Money probably won't help the shocking truth that a complete stranger tried to take your life. That's not easy to come back from.
What will help, even if its only a little bit, is knowing other complete strangers from across the world cared enough about the tragedy that occurred to come together and offer you a great gesture of kindness and humanity.
Personally, I don't give a shit if the OP is only doing this to make himself feel better. I'm not. Others on board with this aren't. Besides, if this tragedy being all over the internet is such a problem for the victims, I'm sorry to say it's a bit too late for that, so why would that ever be a deterrent for doing something good?
You agree we shouldn't try to help here because you judged the one who started it was only doing it to make himself feel better. Maybe that's true, but such logic can be applied to any instance of one person willing to help his fellow man, indicating that no one should ever try to help another.
Because we might be doing it just to make ourselves feel better.
I'm not trying to guilt you into jumping on board with this. You've justified yourself using your own moral reasoning, but don't try applying that reasoning to other people who are just trying to help.
