Umm... I don't know what part of my post led you to believe that he had "gone against my wishes". He is very well behaved, and since a toddler has responded very well to the "time-out" form of discipline, to the point where I haven't actually had to put him in time-out for about 3 years now because he is able to choose the correct behaviour when being presented with a warning, and otherwise he pretty much does as he's told. The long-term goal of disciplining young children is to raise them to be able to have self discipline (i.e. to choose the right behaviour in a variety of circumstances) because when they are older you are not going to be able to be there every second of their lives (especially when they are teenagers and under peer pressure) to tell them "do this, don't do that". Yes, you will be giving them guidance throughout their lives, but ultimately you have to release an adult into the world who is able to make correct moral choices on their own and that is a lot more complex than giving them treats like a dog (though I understand your line of thinking, and indeed reward charts work well for young children).Owen Robertson said:The only thing I dislike more than blatant attempts to placate children so parents don't have to parent them, is parents who abuse their children. How about you discipline the child for going against your wishes and reward him for going with them? It works for dogs.robot slipper said:My son (age 8) asked me the other day if there are "child prisons". I very seriously nodded and said that there are indeed prisons for children, and that children regularly get sent to child prison if they misbehave. He totally believed me, which I think is a good thing if it keeps him out of trouble.
OT: I'll tell them that they can do anything if they just work hard enough.
In the above example, he was just asking an innocent question, and if he thinks that misbehaviour might lead to prison then that only serves to help him make the correct moral choices. OK, it's a misleading lie, but that's what this thread was about after all.