Homefront? Bringing the Fight Here?

[Paragon Fury]

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

You'd be surprised. .50 rifles and armor piercing bullets are perfectly legal in several places in the US.

Not to mention the fact that any occupation literally requires the populace to acquiesce. In the modern era, it's the next best thing to impossible to effectively fight a native guerilla force without violating just about every one of the agreements made in the Geneva Conventions.

Which the trailers all show NK is doing, is spades. Even the time line says there are reports of NK soldiers going into towns, rounding up every male over 12 and executing them in the street to ensure compliance.

 

[Anarchy In Detroit]

I'd love to play a game set in the U.S. but typically it always revolves around some boring iteration of "Grr we're the last American military left. Obviously everyone in the US is incompetent besides us! Let's use our high tech stuff!"

Gaaaaahhhhh fuck that. I'd rather have to search neighborhoods for rifles and pick off chumps riding around in trucks. Set up booby traps etc. Difficulty should be high, danger should be everywhere, tactics should be not only rewarded but necessary.

"Modern" or conventional warfare is getting fucking old. It seems to be an excuse for developers to put unbalanced weaponry like some kind of wall piercing, triple zoom, pin point accurate, heat vision, automatic sniper rifle. Oh were you too stupid to check your six? Don't worry we have a map, a motion sensor, a motion sensing laser guided minigun, and a force field because you're a fucking mental infant.

Also, North Korea? Really? What? Did they hide their landing craft and cargo planes that they don't have in an underground lair? Just make a Korean War game please. This is as ridiculous as Russia invading. What next? The British are coming? Fourth Reich? Cuba invades Florida? an army of faceless ninja assassins?

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

The whole concept is just ridiculous. People are tired of fighting Russian but they could at least could have invaded the U.S. in their prime.

I could buy North Korea starting stuff up again back in Korea but invading the U.S.? I just can't get over it.

Hell, I don't think any one nation could occupy the U.S. not because of out military, but because of how many weapons that are available to the civilian population.

 

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

China wont allow it. China relies on western nations for its economy and attacking America would destroy its economy. You also forgot the US has allies. The moment China or Korea tries anything they will be attacked from the back by the allies in Europe. Russia is actually FRIENDLY to America. They have no quarrel with us and will likely help us. You also forget Korea attacked China in homefront which is retarded because China would decimate the Korean forces. You also fail to realize that multiple superpowers going to war will be fought with NUKES, and not armies.

Actually china is still very pissed off that america hasnt paid there trillion dollar debt and most likely will stop selling to the U.S and since most of the U.S imports are from china that might screw the U.S a bit.Russia isnt really friendly with the U.S since there are still some tensions so dont think there allies.Btw most countries in the world dont like or even hate the U.S so most likely those counties will help in the invasion.And at the end of the day the U.S's allies are canada,the u.k,australia,and france.Other than the u.k and maybe france thats not really a great list.And im pretty sure nukes will be last result since im pretty sure all the countries in the world dont want to blow up the world.

1. America has allies and still has plenty of pull in other countries.
2. Russia and America enjoy good diplomatic relations. Russia has no reason to attack the US.
3. China relies on western consumers for their economy, attacking America would alienate those consumers and damage their own economy. China would be shooting itself in the foot attacking the US.
4. Two superpowers going to war will result in nuclear war always. There is a reason America and Russia never actually attacked each other in the cold war despite tensions. If Russia didn't do it, China wont do it.

The world isn't like COD nor is it still in the cold war era.

No matter what if america has a war on its own soil it will either lose or take alot of casualties because america hasnt ever had a proper war on its own soil so they wont be prepared.

 

[Paragon Fury]

The whole concept is just ridiculous. People are tired of fighting Russian but they could at least could have invaded the U.S. in their prime.

I could buy North Korea starting stuff up again back in Korea but invading the U.S.? I just can't get over it.

Hell, I don't think any one nation could occupy the U.S. not because of out military, but because of how many weapons that are available to the civilian population.

The civilian population is only a threat if you intend to try and occupy and control them.

North Korea isn't trying to do that; NK's only goal is to take everything possible of value, kill anyone who gets in their way, and leave. Probably after setting fire to everything on their way out.

It doesn't matter how many weapons you give the civilians when all that's going to happen when you're discovered is a pair of MiGs firebombing your town.

 

[Mike Laserbeam]

If you're having problems believing that North Korea could invade the US all by themselves maybe you could have a quick look into the Homefront story a bit? There's a bit of a lead up to the whole invasion thing, including a North-South merging and amassing other "alliances". Also something about the dollar collapsing and the US military being weakened...
It's only fiction so it doesn't have to be completely realistic!

Also, I'm against this game. It may turn out to be incredibly fun or something but being British, I don't see the appeal of being an All-American hero against the evil oppressors!
(Maybe that's a bit of the ol' empire talking...)

Not going to lie though, playing as the SAS or any other British characters in similar MODERN settings makes me pretty proud, so glass houses and all that...

 

[Bwown]

I can't see the game's story being possible in the slightest, i mean North Korea can't even get a missle over Japan.

The North Koreans actually did fire a missle over Japan (Luckly it just crashed in the middle of the Pacfic and no one was hurt), not that makes this game's premise anymore believable.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/01/world/north-korea-fires-missile-over-japanese-territory.html

 

[MrJohnson]

Lol at people being like "North Korea could never invade America!" even though they two of the worlds most populous and industrious countries in the world would potentially help them (Russia and China). I Laugh more at the idea of CoDs world where America has an open war with Russia, a country with a nigh-on suicidal view of war throughout history.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I understand where you are going, but i think you take this a little too serious... All im saying is that i would like some new plots and angles in video games... Speaking for myself, and many others i know, im very tired and bored of playing games where you can practically take a shower in the american patriotism thats portrayed..
Thats why i would find it intertaining/interesting playing a game where you invade the US, since it hasnt been done in that many games in newer time...

As for the hate towards the US, i think you would feel the same way if you lived in a small ass country, on the other side of th globe, that is slowly becomming more and more americanised without any reason whatsoever...
I dont hate the american public, i hate your way of living and the way you are trying to force it on other countries, while you cant see that its a problem...

And please... Dont pull the "super-awesome-ally-card"... That argument is invalid...

Whats also invalid is citing that America is going around being a bully, by which I assume you mean our recent wars in the Middle East. The point I was trying to make by reminding you of our countries' mutual friendships is that we are supposed to support each other. America doesn't "force" its culture on anyone. Our government doesn't sit around trying get a Civilization cultural victory, and our corporations and advertisers don't target other countries with the purpose of making them "more like Americans". Its been proven that the most effective advertising is that which panders to whichever specific nationality and culture they are currently interested in anyway. American culture is made Americans, pure and simple. But its so loud and ubiquitous its hard to escape.

I can understand your frustration, I live in the Southern United States (North Carolina, to be precise), where its not an exaggeration to say that we tend to overplay our heritage and culture because we are afraid that someday it might be gone (hence the stereotypical love of Civil War reenactments). But so long as you can still identify with your own people, you can't ever really lose that. American pop culture isn't what makes people American, in the same way the BBC can't make you British, or Anime can't make you Japanese.

On second though, we do force democracy on countries, but only if they've proven that their dictatorship or whatever isn't working. For example, after the Cold War ended we haven't touched Cuba, despite it being Communist and within spitting distance of us.) And yeah yeah, ulterior motives and resources and whatnot, I know.

 

[The Wykydtron]

I like the sound of this game just because i know i'll be loling at the parts where i'm meant to feel righteous anger!

 

[maturin]

Basically it should have been China, only then people would have gotten upset. The North Koreans are pretty much the only people you can treat like Tolkien's orcs if you're doing a serious game.

So far as most players are concerned, those yellow bastards are all the same anyway.

On second though, we do force democracy on countries, but only if they've proven that their dictatorship or whatever isn't working.

We barely ever do that. We're much more likely to force a military junta on countries, but only if they've proven that their slightly leftist democracy isn't working. Going by track records, anyway.

 

[w1ndscar]

Interesting yes, but it's been done before. But then again, half the crap in COD:BO has been done by plenty of other games, even though the people I talk to about it don't seem to realize that in the slightest. Anyways I'll be keeping an eye on it.

 

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

China wont allow it. China relies on western nations for its economy and attacking America would destroy its economy. You also forgot the US has allies. The moment China or Korea tries anything they will be attacked from the back by the allies in Europe. Russia is actually FRIENDLY to America. They have no quarrel with us and will likely help us. You also forget Korea attacked China in homefront which is retarded because China would decimate the Korean forces. You also fail to realize that multiple superpowers going to war will be fought with NUKES, and not armies.

Actually china is still very pissed off that america hasnt paid there trillion dollar debt and most likely will stop selling to the U.S and since most of the U.S imports are from china that might screw the U.S a bit.Russia isnt really friendly with the U.S since there are still some tensions so dont think there allies.Btw most countries in the world dont like or even hate the U.S so most likely those counties will help in the invasion.And at the end of the day the U.S's allies are canada,the u.k,australia,and france.Other than the u.k and maybe france thats not really a great list.And im pretty sure nukes will be last result since im pretty sure all the countries in the world dont want to blow up the world.

1. America has allies and still has plenty of pull in other countries.
2. Russia and America enjoy good diplomatic relations. Russia has no reason to attack the US.
3. China relies on western consumers for their economy, attacking America would alienate those consumers and damage their own economy. China would be shooting itself in the foot attacking the US.
4. Two superpowers going to war will result in nuclear war always. There is a reason America and Russia never actually attacked each other in the cold war despite tensions. If Russia didn't do it, China wont do it.

The world isn't like COD nor is it still in the cold war era.

No matter what if america has a war on its own soil it will either lose or take alot of casualties because america hasnt ever had a proper war on its own soil so they wont be prepared.

war of 1812. really, this is just getting embarrassing. America has a lot of nukes and a war on American soil will never happen until nukes become obsolete. This is the same reason no one invades North & South Korea, Russia, or China. They all have nukes and wont hesitate to use them. It has nothing to do with armies.

You also forget that the tech edge America has and the experience of the officers involved. Numbers don't win wars, proper tactics and weaponry do. This is the same reason Russian casualties were so high in WWI and WWII. This isn't COD where they just send in troops without thought, its more like RUSE.


War isn't about numbers or power, its the clever thinking to outsmart your opponent. Example, In RUSE multiplayer I destroyed a TANK ARMADA using ONLY 3 squads of German paratroopers in an ambush using 1939 tech. It didn't matter that German tanks (in 1939) were weak against the Russian ones nor the fact they outnumbered and outgunned me, i still won.

When did i say this was COD.And russia not only has one of the largest armies but the spetsnaz are some of the most well trained and well equipped soldiers in the world.Btw i love how ironic it is that youre using a video game to back up youre arguement.Oh and the war of 1812 wasnt exactly a proper war since at that time america had just recently become a country which means it never had an invasion plan and america was the one who declared war making it the agressor.And if america is willing to launch nukes at another country just because its getting invaded(i guess standing and fighting is for cowards)then i guess that says something about america.

 

[Danny Ocean]

The whole concept is just ridiculous. People are tired of fighting Russian but they could at least could have invaded the U.S. in their prime.

I could buy North Korea starting stuff up again back in Korea but invading the U.S.? I just can't get over it.

Hell, I don't think any one nation could occupy the U.S. not because of out military, but because of how many weapons that are available to the civilian population.

The civilian population is only a threat if you intend to try and occupy and control them.

North Korea isn't trying to do that; NK's only goal is to take everything possible of value, kill anyone who gets in their way, and leave. Probably after setting fire to everything on their way out.

It doesn't matter how many weapons you give the civilians when all that's going to happen when you're discovered is a pair of MiGs firebombing your town.

The main barrier to occupying the USA isn't its Federal army, or all the armed citizens, or its Allies across the Atlantic, or its nukes, but the sheer size of it. It's 3000 miles across. It's almost as big as the entirety of Europe by itself!

It's hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-ouge! =D

Lol at people being like "North Korea could never invade America!" even though they two of the worlds most populous and industrious countries in the world would potentially help them (Russia and China). I Laugh more at the idea of CoDs world where America has an open war with Russia, a country with a nigh-on suicidal view of war throughout history.

I laugh at you for having such a poor knowledge of China's political relationship with North Korea. It's even been in the leaks recently. They're not exactly best buds.

There's no big monolithic communist bloc any more, people. China and Russia would have literally no reason to help NK should it decide to invade the USA. It would just be insane. They're far more likely just to stomp all over North Korea while the troops are out in the Pacific and deal with that problem once and for all.

 

[BourneGamer]

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

You'd be surprised. .50 rifles and armor piercing bullets are perfectly legal in several places in the US.

Not to mention the fact that any occupation literally requires the populace to acquiesce. In the modern era, it's the next best thing to impossible to effectively fight a native guerilla force without violating just about every one of the agreements made in the Geneva Conventions.

Yeah, cause we know the North Korean leaders are such stand up guys and care for the rules of the rest of the world. If they had the power to steamroll as many countries as the trailer says, nobody'd be able to enforce any of the conventions anyways.

On point though, I think that the game might be interesting and it'll all depend on the execution. The long-shot scenario could turn out to add the kind of mood that they're aiming for in the whole game. I'll buy it, but it's not likely to be a "day of release" buy.

 

[jpoon]

The game looks cheesy as fuck, I definitely won't be paying for it.

 

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

China wont allow it. China relies on western nations for its economy and attacking America would destroy its economy. You also forgot the US has allies. The moment China or Korea tries anything they will be attacked from the back by the allies in Europe. Russia is actually FRIENDLY to America. They have no quarrel with us and will likely help us. You also forget Korea attacked China in homefront which is retarded because China would decimate the Korean forces. You also fail to realize that multiple superpowers going to war will be fought with NUKES, and not armies.

Actually china is still very pissed off that america hasnt paid there trillion dollar debt and most likely will stop selling to the U.S and since most of the U.S imports are from china that might screw the U.S a bit.Russia isnt really friendly with the U.S since there are still some tensions so dont think there allies.Btw most countries in the world dont like or even hate the U.S so most likely those counties will help in the invasion.And at the end of the day the U.S's allies are canada,the u.k,australia,and france.Other than the u.k and maybe france thats not really a great list.And im pretty sure nukes will be last result since im pretty sure all the countries in the world dont want to blow up the world.

1. America has allies and still has plenty of pull in other countries.
2. Russia and America enjoy good diplomatic relations. Russia has no reason to attack the US.
3. China relies on western consumers for their economy, attacking America would alienate those consumers and damage their own economy. China would be shooting itself in the foot attacking the US.
4. Two superpowers going to war will result in nuclear war always. There is a reason America and Russia never actually attacked each other in the cold war despite tensions. If Russia didn't do it, China wont do it.

The world isn't like COD nor is it still in the cold war era.

No matter what if america has a war on its own soil it will either lose or take alot of casualties because america hasnt ever had a proper war on its own soil so they wont be prepared.

war of 1812. really, this is just getting embarrassing. America has a lot of nukes and a war on American soil will never happen until nukes become obsolete. This is the same reason no one invades North & South Korea, Russia, or China. They all have nukes and wont hesitate to use them. It has nothing to do with armies.

You also forget that the tech edge America has and the experience of the officers involved. Numbers don't win wars, proper tactics and weaponry do. This is the same reason Russian casualties were so high in WWI and WWII. This isn't COD where they just send in troops without thought, its more like RUSE.


War isn't about numbers or power, its the clever thinking to outsmart your opponent. Example, In RUSE multiplayer I destroyed a TANK ARMADA using ONLY 3 squads of German paratroopers in an ambush using 1939 tech. It didn't matter that German tanks (in 1939) were weak against the Russian ones nor the fact they outnumbered and outgunned me, i still won.

When did i say this was COD.And russia not only has one of the largest armies but the spetsnaz are some of the most well trained and well equipped soldiers in the world.Btw i love how ironic it is that youre using a video game to back up youre arguement.Oh and the war of 1812 wasnt exactly a proper war since at that time america had just recently become a country which means it never had an invasion plan and america was the one who declared war making it the agressor.And if america is willing to launch nukes at another country just because its getting invaded(i guess standing and fighting is for cowards)then i guess that says something about america.

You are implying the world is like COD where nations declare war for no reason. Countries NEED A REASON TO GO TO WAR. Why would Russia attack the US? Why would it send its troops against US troops? It had no reason, and no benefit. China is reliant on Western nations for its economy, and attacking the US will have serious political consequences that will end up destroying its economy. America was a new country so the war doesn't count? So by your logic WWI and WWII never happened because Germany was a "new" country. You call America out on fighting using nukes while every other country will do the same. China, Russia, North and South Korea, Iran, and many other countries have nukes. China and Russia would never dream of attacking the US without cause. North and South Korea both have nukes making invasion of either of them out of the question. Why do you think the North Korea is still around? Because Kim Jon Il is a charismatic speaker? Please, he is only around because people wont risk the scenario of a nuclear strike against an invasion force.

Russia? Having a well equipped and most trained special forces in the world? Please don't make me laugh. Just because they are portrayed as "specially trained" in COD doesn't mean they are in real life. In reality the British SAS are the best special forces in the world. Maybe you didn't notice this but the year is 2010, the Cold war mentality of "the big bad Russians" has come and gone. Russia has no reason to attack anyone.

War doesn't rely on numbers, it relies on the ability to outsmart your opponent and your ability to mess with his mind. Only in COD do they follow your mentality of war being fought for no reason, with no tactical plan, and relies on spamming soldiers. RUSE (the video) is the best visual example of what i am saying. Numbers =/= a successful invasion. Soldiers don't win wars, its the officers that command them. You have a shitty officer, you lose the war regardless of how many troops he has. Want a real world example? China was losing in WWII against Japan. Japan lost only 500,000 - 1,000,000 soldiers, while China lost a whopping 3 to 4,000,000 soldiers. As i said, numbers don't mean shit if you can't command them.

Yet again never mentioning COD never saying anything about COD.Since im getting bored of this since this has already been going on for 3 days im going to end this with a video and on a side note you speak of war as if youre some kind of commander however RTS's dont count.