HomeFront: how familair is America to Non-Americans?

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th3xile

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Things that others don't know about? How about we aren't all uneducated, obese, hicks with annoying southern accents. While there is a good amount of obese, they are mostly concentrated in certain cities. Most of us are relatively normal. It's just all the media likes to show of us are the fat idiots because it gets more views. People like having their beliefs confirmed.
 

MrGalactus

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It's written by the same nutjob that wrote Red Dawn.
Yeah.
It's not Americans, just the insane ones like him.
 

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Trolldor said:
These games are 'Fuck yeah, America!' based.

To be honest I think it would be more interesting to see a country like Australia invaded. We're tiny and we don't need excuses as to why our defence for couldn't fend off a third-world nation.
Plus, awesome special forces unit. Hells yeah.
Actually, I'm kinda looking forward to Homefront. At least, I'm intrigued, I'll hold out until I hear some reviews, maybe let a friend get it first. Still, I agree that America being invaded, or simply being the main player in a story is getting pretty old. And Australia gives you desert, forest, mountains and cities to kill invaders on... The mountain and desert might be a little hard to work into a plot, but when has that stopped games?
 

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I basically getting Homefront just to see how long the "lol America got pwnt" thing can get me. I suspect a lot of the "dude civilians just got brutally murdered now start feeling vengeful" moments the devs will put in, will end up being lolololololol moments for me.

The multiplayer looks kickass though
 

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gmaverick019 said:
OT: watching tv is the worst way to know this country, im sorry, but it truly is, some of the shows on tv are absolute facepalm to anything that our cities and states are actually like.

Nothing better than people who have never been to an area of this country writing about it and fleshing it out with details gleaned from untrue stereotypes that nobody else knows aren't true because no one else has ever been there either.

True facts you won't find on TV or in movies: The Northeast is more racist than the South.
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That the south isn't chock full of fucktards like a lot of northern people think?

That "southern hospitality" means "I've had too much cornbread in my life, so everybody down here's got to move and talk slower than anyone else?" OK, maybe that's not entirely true - in college, there's a girl from San Francisco who says she likes how much nicer people are here than they are there. Bewildering to me, maybe she likes the cornbread too?

You really can't learn about America from its TV; for that matter, the only way to learn everything about all of America's nuances, you'd have to spend a fair amount of time in a lot of its different regions. There are a lot of shared ideas and things, but there's so much more than California's anti-game laws or New York's big statue or Chicago's crime rate. There's just more than that.

EDIT: Many Americans aren't born stupid, they just think that acting stupid is cool and funny and eventually they become stupid.

For anyone wondering, I don't really consider myself a patriot but I still get offended when America is generalized as a bunch of Californians or New Yorkers. We're just not all like that.

I've lived in the South for several years in the past. It's a wonderful place. People aren't stupid there, and certainly no less intelligent than people in the North -- and they ARE nicer, and the cities are cleaner, and the weather is better.

Plus they know how to handle snow -- that is, if there's half an inch, nobody goes anywhere or does anything. haha. I like that plan, I despise digging out cars >:|



Also re: Carson Daly

.. nobody remembers where he's from? Seriously? I suppose it does seem like a myth in this day and age.

Children, once upon a time, long long ago, MTV used to play music videos. People watched these music videos on MTV. As time passed, MTV decided to play fewer and fewer videos, and so gradually increased the breaks between one video and another with useless chatter.

Eventually, this chatter took form and name and it was Carson, and to him young girls made phone calls to vote for their favorite video.

Seriously though, nobody remembers Total Request Live? That was the late 90s.. that's not that long ago o_O
 

Ironic Pirate

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Trolldor said:
These games are 'Fuck yeah, America!' based.

To be honest I think it would be more interesting to see a country like Australia invaded. We're tiny and we don't need excuses as to why our defence for couldn't fend off a third-world nation.
Homefront doesn't seem very "Fuck Yeah!". I mean, we get conquered by North Korea. Fuck Apollo Creed, that's like Rocky losing to his goldfish.

It's more about people who might not normally like each other banding together to fight off a common enemy. Fuck, North Korea could even be a metaphor for the recession, or 9/11.
 

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Things other countries probably didn't know, or didn't research...

Our highway system is set up so all of our interstate highways in America have 2 miles of flat level surface every several miles. This is so we can use our road system to double for runways that our aircraft can use. Additionally, our interstate highways are made to a tolerance to allow for heavy tanks to use them. Our roads are networked so we can move very large amounts of equipment quickly and directly to where support is needed.

Yeah, when they made our infrastructure they didn't fuck around.
 

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My favorite thing about America is that each state is so distinct, that we had to have a civil war before we got along, and even now we're a bit cold towards our neighbors.
As the great Yomandude once said, "We are not one nation. We are 50 nations, with 50 different beliefs, and we make up We, the People." Beautiful, eh?
The best part is that even though I LIVE in America, I still don't know what's true and what's a stereotype! Us in New Jersey have been conditioned to be prejudiced toward Texas, with their racist hillbillies and stupid Conservatives... but I just want to go there, just once, to see what it's really like. I feel like Winston from 1984...
 

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I think the question is largely irrelevant simply because the premise is that one's nation is invaded. That this nation might not be where one actually lives has little impact all told. Think of how many games use this very idea as a motivating concept for the main character when the nation doesn't even exist in the real world.

While there is something to be said about the familiarity of the setting, there are few who even live in part of the world that a foreigner would recognize by imagery alone. Sure, I could recognize landmarks in Paris or London or Moscow or New York but all told there aren't many people (with respect to the number of people who might play a game) that live there. How many of us would really recognize Los Angeles or Houston if we were simply shown a few pictures of the skyline? What about any of the dozens of other mega cities around the world?

One does not need to be familiar with the setting, they simply need to be able to care about the people and places there. Thus, the problem is one of narrative and world design and character rather than setting. The only thing a familiar setting offers is a basis for this to be built upon.
 

Geekosaurus

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A question to any Americanos: Does a game involving a foreign power invading your country provoke any sort of emotional reaction from you?
 

garjian

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aaaah lol.

I'm ok with the amount of games set in America. I enjoy killing all the stupid NPCs.
and tbph, if this happened in real life I'd side with Korea, because they aren't American. I don't like Korea, but yeah, certainly better than America.
 

warmonkey

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garjian said:
aaaah lol.

I'm ok with the amount of games set in America. I enjoy killing all the stupid NPCs.
and tbph, if this happened in real life I'd side with Korea, because they aren't American. I don't like Korea, but yeah, certainly better than America.

Quoted because holy shit someone's saying north korea is better than america and we cannot allow this to go unseen.

just wow.
 

Arizona Kyle

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warmonkey said:
garjian said:
aaaah lol.

I'm ok with the amount of games set in America. I enjoy killing all the stupid NPCs.
and tbph, if this happened in real life I'd side with Korea, because they aren't American. I don't like Korea, but yeah, certainly better than America.

Quoted because holy shit someone's saying north korea is better than america and we cannot allow this to go unseen.

just wow.
You do realize that if this happened in real life that North Korea wouldnt have a chance right?
 

Arizona Kyle

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It would be stupid to get emotional about that

the first time that i saw that stunt which i believe that it was in MW, i was like ahh s**t lets mess those guys up and i guess i was emotionly happy becuase i had found something that made me ACTUALLY wanted to fight the people

so let me ask you all a question.....

When you play games that you are fighting in a war along side fellow soldiers do you ever feel the sensation to kill your enemies, like does the story ever give you the feeling that you just have to kill these people or is it just shoot the people that turn your crosshairs red
 

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Aur0ra145 said:
Things other countries probably didn't know, or didn't research...

Our highway system is set up so all of our interstate highways in America have 2 miles of flat level surface every several miles. This is so we can use our road system to double for runways that our aircraft can use. Additionally, our interstate highways are made to a tolerance to allow for heavy tanks to use them. Our roads are networked so we can move very large amounts of equipment quickly and directly to where support is needed.

Yeah, when they made our infrastructure they didn't fuck around.
They probably didn't know because it's not true...

http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp
 

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Trolldor said:
These games are 'Fuck yeah, America!' based.

To be honest I think it would be more interesting to see a country like Australia invaded. We're tiny and we don't need excuses as to why our defence for couldn't fend off a third-world nation.
That sounds interesting, do you think a good game could be made out of that?

This is one thing I've emphasized before, and I'll likely get flamed as I have in the past, but:
I have lived in America all my life and have never encountered any gun-related crime personally. I know it happens, but I get the impression people outside the country think America is the next thing over from a war-torn country.

I'm trying to think of more, but since I have so little else to compare it to, I'm hitting a wall.
 

bushwhacker2k

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garjian said:
aaaah lol.

I'm ok with the amount of games set in America. I enjoy killing all the stupid NPCs.
and tbph, if this happened in real life I'd side with Korea, because they aren't American. I don't like Korea, but yeah, certainly better than America.
Okay, and we can all assume that you've been to both countries and have met numerous people from both and have judged from a very adequate amount of experience that if one country had to go, it'd be America? For some reason I don't think that's the case...
 
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I got to be honest.You don't really get the right impression if you are just watching our tv.To be honest,most of it is **** in a can.It in no way reflects any life I have seen except those so stupid that they claim independence by buying expensive clothes and yelling about being poor after you overhear their Black Ops or Disney chat.There are a lot of manipulated people here but I have no doubt that is no exclusive to America.Many of us are proud and happy,though many again are dragged down by our current political leader.The best part about America outside of New York(as I am aware) is that we have guns and know the principals of them (except the gang****)
So yeah,got to love Texas where the economy is still existent.