How do people deal with console FPSes over PC ones?

[Jovip]

Maybe it's just your gaming history.
i mean i played conkers bad fur day on the n64. everyone bitched about the guns in that game being terrible to use, i got so good though i could probably hit a quarter from a mile away with that game and that single old analog. Now, i played through the generations, ps1,xbox,gamecube,ps2,x360,ps3 and i am so used to the analog stick it is second nature to me.

but why is it i excel at the console shooting and general aiming and not the mouse aiming? simply due to my gaming history, i played everything on consoles, and actually i rarely played/play fps games. mainly because i am a rpg fan. either way. i never had a computer specced well enough to play anything other then diablo 2. so i just go so used to console it is 1000x times easier now. and it is where i would want to go if i needed to win a virtual shooting contest. Granted nowadays i can play pc shooters and other games and my aim is still amazing. so not to be mean. but maybe you just have really bad aim?

p.s i played the shit out of diablo 2 on that old school pc. some of the best hours in gaming on that.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Most of the posts, and the thread itself, ask and answer the question of "Why do people prefer control type X", not PC is greater than Console. If consoles had mouse and keyboard support for games, then you wouldn't have jumped to that conclusion.

Well the name of the thread and the OP seemed more like an attack on anyone who uses a console controller.

It would've been better if he/she actually asked "which do you prefer?" in a much lighter tone.

Not to sound like I'm talking down, but reading before posting generally helps. Otherwise incidents such as this occur.

Huh?

I just simply stated that it seemed at first that the OP was attacking people who prefer console controllers over Pc for FPS "how do people deal...", that implies the OP has no idea how anyone could possibly like using a console controller for FPS games. The first part of my post was just a stupid joke and then I stated my preference for controllers and mouse/keyboard.

Sorry, inflections are hard in text. I didn't get that feeling reading the OP though, I simply gave the benefit of the doubt.

 

[noble cookie]

Why are you saying it like it's a hard thing to do?

Playing FPSs on consoles isn't a hard thing to do, sure some games have aim assist, but if my memory serves me right, The Orange Box on 360 doesn't. I play TF2 on there all the time (fuck the updates) and I am quite good at it, imo. No aim assist on it though.

PC might be easier, but that takes getting used to, and it's far more comfortable sitting on my bed and playing on my HDTV

 

[CheckD3]

It's amazing how different ever gamer is with their controls. Though they grow as the consoles have.

I used to be a monster with a GC controller, I could pop in Timesplitters 2 and on hard mode on the first level I could fly through all the way to the zombie area without getting shot, without a hint of challenge, and without an ounce of hesitation. I tried again and had a hard time using the smaller stick, since now I'm so used to the PS3 controller, but when I first started playing so much PS, I had problems with the buttons, because I was so used to A and B that X and O made me crazy

Back on topic, I don't like PC as much because I don't have a gaming table to use, I play games in my cozy chair in my room or on my couch that's also my bed, so I have to adjust it a lot and I find the controls clunky, where my console grown fingers know where to move the stick instantly

 

[Waaghpowa]

Because you're using joysticks and they don't give you pinpoint accuracy. Everyone has it, the playing field is even. If you suck at the game, aim assist is not going to save you. Your retical is not going to be magnetized to enemy players, you still have to do the work. If you suck at the game, you suck at the game

What I'm trying to get at is if having auto aim makes no difference whether you're terrible or really good, then what's the point. If you want to argue that sticks are less accurate therefore it requires the aim assist, fine. I just don't get the point of an aim assist as far as fairness goes.

 

[beeejay]

I don't hve a pc that can play games at anyting near the level of a console so that is the deciding factor. But in previous yers whenever I have played PC FPS's its alway been prone to people cheating more so than I have seen on console and I also don't have the space on my desk to have a great deal of movement of my mouse.

 

[dantoddd]

A lot of people here are claiming that it's matter of preference which control mechanism better. That to me is like saying you prefer Rebecca Black over the Beatles. The mouse offers a far more precise & responsive control mechanism for the reticle. And that is the most important component of FPS gaming.

Here's an article from techspot about this whole issue and what happened when MS supposedly set up a cross platform trial.
http://www.techspot.com/news/39738-microsoft-killed-crossplatform-project-because-pc-gamers-wrecked-console-gamers.html

According to Sood's sources, "many many months ago," Microsoft set out on a Xbox Live project that would let PC and console users interact on some form of united multiplayer platform ? a grand idea on paper. In practice however, it's said that PC gamers "destroyed" console players every time.

This is not to say KB & mouse are better over all, they definitely are not. When it comes to hack n slashers like Alice returns, actions RPG's like TW2 or any type of racing game the controller is leagues ahead of the mouse. But as far as FPS are concerned KB & mouse is objectively better.

 

[Korolev]

With effort.

I play my fair share of Console FPS games. Sure, using a controller is never QUITE as accurate as using a mouse, but with effort, patience and a whole lot of effort you can get pretty good with a controller. The thing is, using a controller takes time whereas a mouse is intuitive to use.

So yes, given the option, I'd take a mouse over a controller anytime. But sometimes that's not an option. If the game has been designed well, using a controller should be perfectly serviceable.

 

[DementedSheep]

I can?t aim for shit on a console. I much prefer playing shooters on the PC but then I?m mostly a PC gamer. I generally prefer 3D platformers (because of the analogue stick), hack and slash (I mean games like GoW) and fighting games on the console but everything else is PC

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well you just got to get used to it, controllers are quite a bit more hassle with FPS games that's why they add aim bots to smooth out the rough edges.

 

[Palademon]

I prefer console FPS becuase I simply prefer consoles, and prefer a controller to a keyboard and mouse.

 

[mjc0961]

You're on a level playing field when playing an FPS on a console, you're using a controller the same as everyone else. I like it, I prefer it.

Not always the same controller anymore though, thanks to Playstation Move. After playing Killzone 3, I wasn't sure how the hell I ever used a regular controller. Took me a day or two to get used to one again when I got a free copy of Halo Reach for that beta test Microsoft had.

Only real problem I have with Move in Killzone 3 is that they mapped reload to a motion control and a button, but melee is only mapped to a motion control. Also, the motion control for reload works fine, but the motion control for melee is really spotty. If it even registers, it still took you that time to thrust the controller forward, so if you come up against a guy with a controller and you both melee, you lose. I guess it's a bit of balance since I can aim a hell of a lot better and faster, but lord how I wish they'd let me chance the Square button to melee instead of reload.

RTS are impossible.

Frustrating as all hell at times, yes. Impossible, no. If it was impossible, I never would have been able to beat Red Alert 3 on hard mode and complete all the missions under par time in Commander's Challenge on PS3. Here's my trophy collection if you need proof. [http://us.playstation.com/publictrophy/index.htm?onlinename=mjc0961]

It's certainly not something I ever want to do again, though. Next time EA wants to load the PC version of a C&C game with DRM, I think I'll skip it altogether. Not like I want to play another one after how badly they butchered C&C4 anyway...
[small]Then again, if those crafty bastards put in Move controller support... Hmm...[/small]

 

[Drummodino]

I agree that the mouse can allow for more precise aiming... that said I much prefer shooters on consoles. This is mainly due to the fact that I have always played them on ps2 and 3 and rarely got them on PC. I've just become used to using the controller and it feels much more natural than keyboard and mouse. However this is just a personal thing built up over years of console gaming. The only games I prefer to play on PC are RTS and MMOs.

 

[ManOwaRrior]

All those people saying it comes down to preference: You do realize, that FPS on consoles are designed in such a way that makes them even playable with an anaolg-stick, right?
There are things you just cannot do with a controller, and any game that would demand it from you would be horrible on consoles.
Examples: Turn around 170° in a blink of an eye because something just dropped down behind you. Than hit that flying enemy that is doing quick zick-zacks above you.
Dare I say strafe-jumps?
Analogstick-aming has to strike a balance between speed and accuracy. A Mouse does not.

Granted, most modern FPS are designed with consoles in mind, so in those cases it really might come down to preference. But go play Quake Life and realize just what is possible using mouse/keyboard.

Disclaimer: I play games, including FPS, on both consoles and PC. And yes, moving with an anolg stick is better than moving with a keyboard.

 

[Cridhe]

Because you're using joysticks and they don't give you pinpoint accuracy. Everyone has it, the playing field is even. If you suck at the game, aim assist is not going to save you. Your retical is not going to be magnetized to enemy players, you still have to do the work. If you suck at the game, you suck at the game

What I'm trying to get at is if having auto aim makes no difference whether you're terrible or really good, then what's the point. If you want to argue that sticks are less accurate therefore it requires the aim assist, fine. I just don't get the point of an aim assist as far as fairness goes.

Probably because a majority of online game play would result in resembling a hyperactive group of Stormtroopers who can't hit the broad side of a barn. God bless them they try.

Try Halo: Reach for 360. You'll see it adds to the functionality and overall mechanics of the game in a good way.

 

[Griffolion]

I play FPS' on PC, so I don't have that problem.

FPS console games are so much better than PC.

If you've actually played an FPS game on PC you wouldn't say that at all. No'one in their right mind ever says that FPS' on consoles play better than on PC.

 

[Corpse XxX]

Well, I'm the exact opposite.

I recently got TF2, and I can't hit anything worth a fucking crap. It's legitimately impossible for me.

That might come down to mouse settings, the sensitivity.. The default setting is way to high for me.. If i dont remember wrong, i got helluva lot better when i put setting to about 2,1-2,0..

 

[ryo02]

we really need a revolution in controllers

controllers dont have the speed of accuracy a mouse does and mice dont have the fluid ease of motion a controller does. motion controls are ... not cutting it yet Razer Hydra has some potiontial still seems awkward though. touch screens?.

theres gotta be a way to put it all together

couple vids of note
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MObrSKjY_S0&feature=feedu mouse on a console?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_1Ao2cd5BM&feature=player_embedded

 

[captaincabbage]

It's called not being a little ***** and sucking it up. People give console shooters so much shit because you're not using a mouse. That's kinda the point of a console fps, to give a different experience to a PC version of the game, yet I always hear people bagging console shooters because it's harder than they want.

It's not that hard people, it just takes practice.