How racist, sexist, or other "ist's" are your relatives or aquaintances?
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My grandfather was a rascist (he called black people monkeys) but as he was pretty old it was almost expected, as he had the whole old-schoolness to him. Interestingly, when he had a stroke, he seemed to forget that he was rascist.
He had a black carer, cause he was really weak after the stroke. He would have never let a black person feed him, bathe him etc before he had one, but afterwards she became great friends with him. He also seemed to forget that he didn't like me as well.siggi11 said:
sucks to be you. (in the most sincere way possible... if it is actually true which i am sorry to say i don't think it is)mattttherman3 said:
God damn that sucks, the only reason I am commenting on this is because I don't have any family that is sexist or racist. Well, that I know of.mattttherman3 said:
My dad's a racist, sexist conservative jock type. As much as I'd like to say he has had no influence on who I've become, it turns out I'm also a racist, sexist conservative (but not a jock). I have "selective racism". That's right, you heard it here first: "selective racism". For example, I have no problem with people of other races. I hang out with/joke with/befriend them. HOWEVER, I am extremely repulsed by interracial coupling, however innocent. I also LOVE racist jokes, seriously.
I am a sexist in that I adhere to certain old school chivalric attitudes towards women. You know "ladies first", "don't hit girls" - that sort of thing. Did I mention I also love sexist jokes?
I am a sexist in that I adhere to certain old school chivalric attitudes towards women. You know "ladies first", "don't hit girls" - that sort of thing. Did I mention I also love sexist jokes?
i had an elderly relative (i think she was a relative) say that all Arabs were poor and they eat their first born sons, and finally that if the british empire hadn't colonized *cough genocided cough* Africa that Africans would rape children and stab each other with pointy sticks for all eternity because 'they arn't as good as white people like you and me' he son came up to her upon hearing this and wheeled her away, when she came back she was in a (i believe) drug induced coma of some sort.
oh and then there was the time when my dad called gay people 'fags' and my family continually screamed at him for about ten minutes (he was very very drunk)
oh and then there was the time when my dad called gay people 'fags' and my family continually screamed at him for about ten minutes (he was very very drunk)
I remember an awequad moment at christmas a couple of years ago where my grandad sat their on the couch, a little drunk, and started going on about how their where too many niggers and indians in the country, and how they where bringing in diseases and causing all the crime.
I'd never heard him being racist before, but apparently at his funeral I was told by an obscure relative that he'd been very racist when he was alive. Didn't bother me much, it was just his age.
I'd never heard him being racist before, but apparently at his funeral I was told by an obscure relative that he'd been very racist when he was alive. Didn't bother me much, it was just his age.
None of my family or extended family is particually race/religion/sex/ectera-ist, the only grating factor inherent to most people I come in contact with (not just my family) is their pre-disposed attitudes and generalisations towards all types of peoples, the collective mind having been made up for them.
This is not inherent just to attitudes, it seems the closer I look the more things are being run on automatic, and these preconcieved notions control the decisions people make on a daily basis. In a way neccesary to continued fluid exsistence the tendency to lack thought before action (also not in the direct sense), this subconcious reflex programmed into ... well everyone beginning from birth.
Has anyone else noticed this? And if so what can be done about it, how can we re-program?
This is not inherent just to attitudes, it seems the closer I look the more things are being run on automatic, and these preconcieved notions control the decisions people make on a daily basis. In a way neccesary to continued fluid exsistence the tendency to lack thought before action (also not in the direct sense), this subconcious reflex programmed into ... well everyone beginning from birth.
Has anyone else noticed this? And if so what can be done about it, how can we re-program?
I think he's making a reference to Jim Gaffigan; he said that about his mother.Nevsky said:
Anyway, my Uncle's Republican, does that count? Hmm...I actually remember when we were at the same house for the break-fast(not breakfast: break-fast, when you stop fasting) for Yom Kippur, and he and I got into a political debate over the then-upcoming election. Long story short, I owned him, and if you're a 50 + year old man and you get bested in a debate by your 16 year old Nephew, its time to look long and hard at your political views.
Whoa...seriously?mattttherman3 said:
One of my relatives didn't give any of the family heirlooms in her will to my mother because she assumed my Jewish father would just sell it.
My uncle, who's a chess international grandmaster, thinks Obama is a Muslim.
My uncle, who's a chess international grandmaster, thinks Obama is a Muslim.
My family is pretty open minded on my mothers side, though my grandmother once said, concerning the indigenous intervention in the north of Australia, that the government should take all the young aboriginal children and raise them away from their communities, so they could become more educated/civilised, kinda what they did with the stolen generation.
My dad's side is pretty religious, I managed to curb my swearing at Christmas, but I forgot to stop saying thing like sweet-ass, big-ass etc. My grandmother asked me what I just said, i replied "this is a sweet AS present". At least we no longer sing happy birthday Jesus...
Edit: Just watched "Royal Flash" (movie based off a book of the same name), man the 19th century certainly was different when you could call a Spaniard a "dago" to his face and an easy women a "Slut, tart or trollop" and it was barely even mildly offensive.
My dad's side is pretty religious, I managed to curb my swearing at Christmas, but I forgot to stop saying thing like sweet-ass, big-ass etc. My grandmother asked me what I just said, i replied "this is a sweet AS present". At least we no longer sing happy birthday Jesus...
Edit: Just watched "Royal Flash" (movie based off a book of the same name), man the 19th century certainly was different when you could call a Spaniard a "dago" to his face and an easy women a "Slut, tart or trollop" and it was barely even mildly offensive.
I don't really know my dads beleifs (him being dead an all) but from what Ive been told and what I can gather he was an open minded guy; friends of all races and creeds. He experienced racist heckling and abuse being an Iranian in north west England. I don't really know what my Iranian grandparents think as I have never met them.
My mum on the other hand, she is open, liberal blah blah blah but I have noticed a rather strange attitude change as she has got to 50. I imagine its just because she has become more cynical over time. She doesn't base her opinion of someone on the colour of their skin or anything like that and that has rubbed off on me; we take people as they are and don't expect to be messed around. She does however have a hard time understanding things and does ask me questions like "why do they do that? Gays I mean?" "mum you cant call them "gays" its gay people", they arent all going to meetings at a local parish on a saturday. Next you'll be saying "blacks" instead of black people." "sorry...well anyway, why do they have to parade in london like that?" which if anyone heard her saying that they would assume she means "oh why do they do that, its disgusting" but she honeslty just wants to know why people do things, not to make remarks about it. I replied "well mum, we made homosexuality illegal for years, don't you think that if a load of people want to have a parade because they are proud of who they are they should do it?" "Yes they should"
Her mum was typical 30's racist. "They", whoever "they" were, were odd and funny looking. She even said when I was 13 "There are too many Asians (meaning Indians/Pakistanis but most people mean Middle Eastern people in general) in the UK now" to which I replied "yeah Gran, and your daughter married one." that shut the ***** up. My grandfather was a Royal Marine then an SAS/SBS member for a long time before becoming a head of security for bands like the Beatles, Stones, Zep and a few other famous bands. He wasn't racist at all , a lovely caring man (who my mum took after thankfully).
Since I am of a multiple mixed heritage and having a family full of different people (my family tree is like the bloody UN), I take people as they are and let the persons actions speak for themselves. I wont think wrong of someone until they I have reason to think wrong of them.
My mum on the other hand, she is open, liberal blah blah blah but I have noticed a rather strange attitude change as she has got to 50. I imagine its just because she has become more cynical over time. She doesn't base her opinion of someone on the colour of their skin or anything like that and that has rubbed off on me; we take people as they are and don't expect to be messed around. She does however have a hard time understanding things and does ask me questions like "why do they do that? Gays I mean?" "mum you cant call them "gays" its gay people", they arent all going to meetings at a local parish on a saturday. Next you'll be saying "blacks" instead of black people." "sorry...well anyway, why do they have to parade in london like that?" which if anyone heard her saying that they would assume she means "oh why do they do that, its disgusting" but she honeslty just wants to know why people do things, not to make remarks about it. I replied "well mum, we made homosexuality illegal for years, don't you think that if a load of people want to have a parade because they are proud of who they are they should do it?" "Yes they should"
Her mum was typical 30's racist. "They", whoever "they" were, were odd and funny looking. She even said when I was 13 "There are too many Asians (meaning Indians/Pakistanis but most people mean Middle Eastern people in general) in the UK now" to which I replied "yeah Gran, and your daughter married one." that shut the ***** up. My grandfather was a Royal Marine then an SAS/SBS member for a long time before becoming a head of security for bands like the Beatles, Stones, Zep and a few other famous bands. He wasn't racist at all , a lovely caring man (who my mum took after thankfully).
Since I am of a multiple mixed heritage and having a family full of different people (my family tree is like the bloody UN), I take people as they are and let the persons actions speak for themselves. I wont think wrong of someone until they I have reason to think wrong of them.
Sometimes I just really can't shake the feeling my mom is sexist and just hates men. She things men are just horrible stupid perverted messy creatures that are responsible for every single solitary thing wrong with this world. There is a strong possibility my father is a rascist. My jaw hit the floor and I think my heart almost stopped when I heard him tell an Obama joke that was just awful.
