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Argonian alchemist

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Darkspectar said:
When I was like... eight or something... I had an IQ of 127... and thats the me current me regards as an absolute moron.
Shocking then is it not...? I wonder how far mine and others span then? Perhaps there is no end to intelligence? Perhaps we all just share one intelligence but use it differently. There is no true measurement of intellect.
 

Argonian alchemist

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Darkspectar said:
I'm guessing you're the Spock [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSpock]....this can't end well.
A hidden insult only shows that you have no plausible or logical response to what I said. I will let that speak for itself. Take it as you will...
 

Argonian alchemist

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Darkspectar said:
How is that an insult... I need Within Temptation...
Comparing any two beings is an insult. To me anyway. This may sound idiotic but it shows more wisdom than it implies. No two begins are equal, to compare them is normally an insult to both, or sometimes just one.

If in this case I was not the one the comparison insulted I still do not agree with it. As my name and being was used to insult that of someone else. As I have given no consent towards this, it is a misuse of my rights and is therefore also an insult to me.
 

steeple

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Jay Parrish said:
steeple said:
I know that its the fluffyness on the inside that counts, not that thats on the outside...

also, noone can see the things that last forever, because we cannot observe them forever. it doesnt mean that there are or arent things that are eternal, it just means that we will not be aware of them (and if they are, they're probably not really complex)
Intelligence? here... impressive, and surprising.

I see what you mean however nothing can last forever, not even time. Everything has an end. It must.

Somewhere through time a reversed big bang will happen, very unlikely yes. But time will continue on forever until it does. So it is imminent. Then when it happens, everything will be gone. And once everything has gone. So will have time. As their is pure nothingness for time to surround.
thing is, we as a race have no true understanding of the rules we live by, only vague theories and ideas, which each in turn are proven false or at least not entirly true...
the thought that everything must end is an understandable one, and a fairly reasonable one, but that does not make it the absolute truth.
what I mean is that certain things in the cosmos are still uncertain, and that includes the laws of space and time.

maybe time doesnt really exist, and particals dont really decay or lose energy over time? maybe the universe just "exists" as it is, and whatever happens in it isnt linked to another?
or maybe everything has its limits, and there is a specific time limit to all material?

nobody knows, and its a shame... yet, the fun part about life is not the understanding itself, but the proccess of revealing the truth, through it we learn more about ourselfs and our way of viewing the world presented to us...

man, I love these type of discussions, even if I babble like a lunatic...

anyway, I know you dont like tea... that can be fixed...
 

steeple

Death by tray it shall be
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Jay Parrish said:
Darkspectar said:
How is that an insult... I need Within Temptation...
Comparing any two beings is an insult. To me anyway. This may sound idiotic but it shows more wisdom than it implies. No two begins are equal, to compare them is normally an insult to both, or sometimes just one.

If in this case I was not the one the comparison insulted I still do not agree with it. As my name and being was used to insult that of someone else. As I have given no consent towards this, it is a misuse of my rights and is therefore also an insult to me.
Im sorry, but I have to disagree:

no two beings are exactly equal, that is correct, but all human beings have the same basic features, since we all derive from the same type of (if not a single) ancestors. understanding this, comparing two is not an insult at all, but simply an observation, to see how the two are the same, and how they are unique.
and since everything is subjective, nothing is trully superior to another, therefore saying that its an insult to one is false (why should one be insulted if the difference doesnt say its for the better or worse?)
 

Argonian alchemist

Master-level alchemist
May 5, 2011
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steeple said:
Jay Parrish said:
steeple said:
I know that its the fluffyness on the inside that counts, not that thats on the outside...

also, noone can see the things that last forever, because we cannot observe them forever. it doesnt mean that there are or arent things that are eternal, it just means that we will not be aware of them (and if they are, they're probably not really complex)
Intelligence? here... impressive, and surprising.

I see what you mean however nothing can last forever, not even time. Everything has an end. It must.

Somewhere through time a reversed big bang will happen, very unlikely yes. But time will continue on forever until it does. So it is imminent. Then when it happens, everything will be gone. And once everything has gone. So will have time. As their is pure nothingness for time to surround.
thing is, we as a race have no true understanding of the rules we live by, only vague theories and ideas, which each in turn are proven false or at least not entirly true...

the thought that everything must end is an understandable one, and a fairly reasonable one, but that does not make it the absolute truth.
what I mean is that certain things in the cosmos are still uncertain, and that includes the laws of space and time.

maybe time doesnt really exist, and particals dont really decay or lose energy over time? maybe the universe just "exists" as it is, and whatever happens in it isnt linked to another?
or maybe everything has its limits, and there is a specific time limit to all material?

nobody knows, and its a shame... yet, the fun part about life is not the understanding itself, but the proccess of revealing the truth, through it we learn more about ourselfs and our way of viewing the world presented to us...

man, I love these type of discussions, even if I babble like a lunatic...

anyway, I know you dont like tea... that can be fixed...
You seem to have misunderstood my last statement. Everything ends, it has to. I will explain.

If you have a die with unlimited sides, and continue rolling them for eternity. Eventually it has to land on the option where everything ends. Your rolling it forever. it isn't possible for it not to reach that at a point.
 

Argonian alchemist

Master-level alchemist
May 5, 2011
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steeple said:
Jay Parrish said:
Darkspectar said:
How is that an insult... I need Within Temptation...
Comparing any two beings is an insult. To me anyway. This may sound idiotic but it shows more wisdom than it implies. No two begins are equal, to compare them is normally an insult to both, or sometimes just one.

If in this case I was not the one the comparison insulted I still do not agree with it. As my name and being was used to insult that of someone else. As I have given no consent towards this, it is a misuse of my rights and is therefore also an insult to me.
Im sorry, but I have to disagree:

no two beings are exactly equal, that is correct, but all human beings have the same basic features, since we all derive from the same type of (if not a single) ancestors. understanding this, comparing two is not an insult at all, but simply an observation, to see how the two are the same, and how they are unique.
and since everything is subjective, nothing is trully superior to another, therefore saying that its an insult to one is false (why should one be insulted if the difference doesnt say its for the better or worse?)
No it is an insult. I have explained my reasoning and nothing you said countered it or gave any reasoning towards it being incorrect.
 

steeple

Death by tray it shall be
Dec 2, 2008
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Jay Parrish said:
You seem to have misunderstood my last statement. Everything ends, it has to. I will explain.

If you have a die with unlimited sides, and continue rolling them for eternity. Eventually it has to land on the option where everything ends. Your rolling it forever. it isn't possible for it not to reach that at a point.
thing is, you say it has to end, while I say there is no true proof for it.

how can you say that there is no chance at all that the body will be placed on a surface that is on a gravitational loop, meaning that it will keep rolling on said loop for eternity (given the universe will never collapse)?
 

Argonian alchemist

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May 5, 2011
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Ah, true. Thank you. I was blinded by one possibility, you have shown me another of equal plausibility.

So I guess it will always remain unknown if existence will end.
 

steeple

Death by tray it shall be
Dec 2, 2008
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Jay Parrish said:
steeple said:
Jay Parrish said:
Darkspectar said:
How is that an insult... I need Within Temptation...
Comparing any two beings is an insult. To me anyway. This may sound idiotic but it shows more wisdom than it implies. No two begins are equal, to compare them is normally an insult to both, or sometimes just one.

If in this case I was not the one the comparison insulted I still do not agree with it. As my name and being was used to insult that of someone else. As I have given no consent towards this, it is a misuse of my rights and is therefore also an insult to me.
Im sorry, but I have to disagree:

no two beings are exactly equal, that is correct, but all human beings have the same basic features, since we all derive from the same type of (if not a single) ancestors. understanding this, comparing two is not an insult at all, but simply an observation, to see how the two are the same, and how they are unique.
and since everything is subjective, nothing is trully superior to another, therefore saying that its an insult to one is false (why should one be insulted if the difference doesnt say its for the better or worse?)
No it is an insult. I have explained my reasoning and nothing you said countered it or gave any reasoning towards it being incorrect.
but you gave no reasoning, you simply stated that two beings are never equal (which is arguable depending on your definition of equal as exact, or similiar), and therefore its an insult