How young is to young to date someone?

[Realitycrash]

Depends on where you live?
Seventeen and up is okey for me, and I'm twentyfive.

 

[Realitycrash]

Anything under 18 is too young. In fact, it's getting to the stage where I'd start supporting "over 21" rules on romantic interactions. The OP is disconcertingly close to paedophilia - and by the strict definition of the law, if he were to engage in that relationship, would be a sex offender.

erm...what?

Care to explain your logic?

Funny, it's fully legal for a 30 year old man to have sex with a fifteenyear-old where I live.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

Anything under 18 is too young. In fact, it's getting to the stage where I'd start supporting "over 21" rules on romantic interactions. The OP is disconcertingly close to paedophilia - and by the strict definition of the law, if he were to engage in that relationship, would be a sex offender.

erm...what?

Care to explain your logic?

Funny, it's fully legal for a 30 year old man to have sex with a fifteenyear-old where I live.

Let's keep the law out of this: the law is just arbitrary rules decided by someone else which restricts what choices you can & can't make. It's irrelevant and inconsistent in an ethical discussion such as this one

 

[WildSeraph]

I don't see the problem with this, besides all that 'legal' and 'moral' crap that others try to force upon you. If you like her and she likes you, you should be allowed to date. Sex is right out though, if you had sex you wouldn't be able to ignore public opinion so easily.

I also have a 16-year-old friend dating a 22-year-old. Of course, the woman's the older one in the relationship, so the implications are less 'creepy pedophile' and more 'hot older chick'. I hate how that works. It's like that one South Park episode where the five-year-old got laid. What a stupid show.

 

[Realitycrash]

Anything under 18 is too young. In fact, it's getting to the stage where I'd start supporting "over 21" rules on romantic interactions. The OP is disconcertingly close to paedophilia - and by the strict definition of the law, if he were to engage in that relationship, would be a sex offender.

erm...what?

Care to explain your logic?

Funny, it's fully legal for a 30 year old man to have sex with a fifteenyear-old where I live.

Let's keep the law out of this: the law is just arbitrary rules decided by someone else which restricts what choices you can & can't make. It's irrelevant and inconsistent in an ethical discussion such as this one

Haha, O rly?
Explain to me, is it ever possible to put a number on when it is acceptable to have sex then? Age is just how long you have lived, and not how mature or physically developed you are.
If we don't go by any frame of reference, I can end the entire discussion with "Depends on the person, everything is relative", and that would be rather dull, would it not?

Sorry mate, but discussing "ethics" without groundrules tends to lead nowhere.

 

[Realitycrash]

I don't see the problem with this, besides all that 'legal' and 'moral' crap that others try to force upon you. If you like her and she likes you, you should be allowed to date. Sex is right out though, if you had sex you wouldn't be able to ignore public opinion so easily.

I also have a 16-year-old friend dating a 22-year-old. Of course, the woman's the older one in the relationship, so the implications are less 'creepy pedophile' and more 'hot older chick'. I hate how that works. It's like that one South Park episode where the five-year-old got laid. What a stupid show.

When I was fifteen I had a twenty-year old girlfriend, but she was a nervous, neurotic mess, and I had to take care of her.

 

[ajemas]

NO.
Having relations with somebody that young is statutory rape. Unless you want to go to jail, turn her down. Besides, at that young, people don't have the experience and judgement to make the proper decisions.

 

[Trasken]

Well im 21 and the lowest i would consider is 16, mostly because of the innocence thing but meh XD

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

Anything under 18 is too young. In fact, it's getting to the stage where I'd start supporting "over 21" rules on romantic interactions. The OP is disconcertingly close to paedophilia - and by the strict definition of the law, if he were to engage in that relationship, would be a sex offender.

erm...what?

Care to explain your logic?

We live in an industrialised society where expected lifespans can reach one's seventies and eighties. As such, introducing more people - through the sum result of unprotected and some unlucky protected sexual intercourse - into the world will push us towards a Malthusian limit which will only be resolved through three means, two of them morally repugnant - pure survival of the fittest; killing off people at some age limit; or by raising the age of consent and properly punishing those that break those rules so that any children which are born will be more likely to have parents who can financially support themselves and who are emotionally mature enough to look after their offspring.

In a modern-day industrialised society specifically, I find teenage sexual intercourse to be repugnant. It may have made sense back in the Middle Ages or the early days of the Industrial Revolution, but it serves absolutely no place in a society where people are expected to live seventy or eighty years. And no, I'm not being hypocritical here - I'm a 22-year-old virgin.

I believe in free choice, and one's teen years is, for some, a time for experimentation with such things as sex and romance, and I respect that for anyone. It may not serve a place in society, but it does serve a place in many young people's personal lives when it comes to establishing experience in relationships, romance, & sex, as well as enjoying oneself. I have no objection to that. I myself am 16, and engaged in a serious romantic relationship with someone my own age. I consider this as being the best thing that has ever happened to me, and if it was taken away from me I would be devastated

I understand your concern about population growth & resource consumption, and I share your concern, but there are not many fair, just, and effective solutions. It is not the responsibility of anyone to interfere with someone else's personal relationships, it is the responsibility of those engaged in the relationship, and the affairs of the relationship are not the business of anyone else, regardless of the situation.

Personally, I am in favour of a loosely-enforced restriction of 2 children per couple. I say loosely enforced because there is no fair and just way of effectively enforcing it, but to raise awareness of the issue, to urge couples to only have a maximum of two children, and (in an extreme case) to reduce/cut the government's financial support of larger families. This can never be implemented fully in a just way, but it would be more an awareness campaign. So even though it won't work 100%, it is likely it will slow down population growth for a while. It's the best we've got in my opinion

 

[zHellas]

I say you shouldn't date anyone that's either more than 3 years older or more than 3 years younger than you.

 

[TailstheHedgehog]

At such young ages that gap cannot be bridged unless you're swooning at her feet and are going to give her the world - you'll be doing no good for your reputation and even worse for hers.

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

I've known people with the same situation of the same age. I've not known any bad to come from it. Maybe I only know decent, responsible people so my view is warped, but I see no problem in a respectful relationship.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

Anything under 18 is too young. In fact, it's getting to the stage where I'd start supporting "over 21" rules on romantic interactions. The OP is disconcertingly close to paedophilia - and by the strict definition of the law, if he were to engage in that relationship, would be a sex offender.

erm...what?

Care to explain your logic?

Funny, it's fully legal for a 30 year old man to have sex with a fifteenyear-old where I live.

Let's keep the law out of this: the law is just arbitrary rules decided by someone else which restricts what choices you can & can't make. It's irrelevant and inconsistent in an ethical discussion such as this one

Haha, O rly?
Explain to me, is it ever possible to put a number on when it is acceptable to have sex then? Age is just how long you have lived, and not how mature or physically developed you are.
If we don't go by any frame of reference, I can end the entire discussion with "Depends on the person, everything is relative", and that would be rather dull, would it not?

Sorry mate, but discussing "ethics" without groundrules tends to lead nowhere.

I know and understand what you are saying, but I disagree strongly. I know it's rather dull to say "Depends on the person, everything is relative", but that is the belief I hold. I hold a strong belief that "it is impossible to put an absolute rule on anything", because there will always be exceptions. Even when it isn't clear there is some way around it, therefore in my view it is inconsistent to apply an absolute rule to something. So no, I don't believe it is ever possible to put a number on when it is acceptable to have sex. It does depend on the individual in question, some people may be ready at 14, others may not be ready until 25, and I don't believe we can impose a strict legal age limit when there is such variation in the age it is actually "acceptable" for various individual. Personally I believe only the individual can decide whether it is acceptable for themselves or not, and it is not the business of anyone else to enforce that. All other related issues regarding sex & young people are common sense, and a simple solution is to provide better sexual education in schools, and for governments and media to be more open about sex and related issues

I also strongly believe in free choice, so it is the personal choice of the individual which has priority over all else regarding a personal matter such as this one.

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

I also strongly believe in free choice, so it is the personal choice of the individual which has priority over all else regarding a personal matter such as this one.

...I like you; you make sense when you talk. Probably just because I concur with everything you said, but still...

 

[DeleteThisAcc]

Don't date her. Be her friend. Remember - one day she will become an adult. Anyway 5 years difference is quite big.

But don't listen to me, I don't get concept of "dating". Just live until you can support family and then get wife. If you just want to get laid... use your hand (or buy woman if your religion forbids that, or find a hobby if your morale forbids that ).