I am NOT a donor, am I EDIT: a bad person? EDIT!

[rekabdarb]

as long as they leave enough skin to cover what my suit won't (although i want to be cremated) doctahs can take as much as anything from me.
but yeah first comment

No, you're just hypocritical.

i think is /thread

what?

Fine, I'll elaborate. Personally, I dont think anyone that isnt an Organ Donor should get other Organs. I mean, hospitals have waiting lists for Organ donors and if you're older, and may not have the time to use the organ, they could skip over you and give it to the guy after you who's younger and ruining his heart with fast food. So its just hypocritical to expect an organ to be there for you when you dont want to give if the time and your number comes up.

Then again, i never got the point why they even need it. I mean... you're dead. What are you going to do with hte organs? They just get ruined or taken out in the embalming process anyway.

no i was trying to agree, i meant i think this is thread. I just forgot the 'this'

 

[Abedeus]

Selfish hypocrite.

If you are not a donor then you are not allowed to receive donor organs. Seems fair to me. Why can't that not be a law? Maybe they should make everyone a donor by law, but you have to opt out. If you decide you do not want to donate, then you are screwed if you need a transplant.

What about people who can't donate organs due to their frail state or failing? Should we deny them an organ?


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah NO. There's a reason BS like this isn't implemented. Honestly let people decide how to distribute THEIR body parts.

EVERYONE can give organs after death. That's the point. Of course, unless they died to sickness that can be transmitted through blood or has an illness like HIV or cancer. Or a heart donation from someone who died of heart attack.

Everyone should be a donor. Hell, if someone dies, he might give whatever blood he has, that's a donation too. His muscles, nerves, soon parts of brains too. Nobody is asking you to be a live donor, but a dead donor.

It's a choice.

I chose not to as well.
I just don't want parts of me in someone else after I died.

Even if I don't use them anymore.

call me selfish or whatever but I am just not ok with that idea.

Pretty sure that if you die, you won't even know or care about your organs after the death.

 

[cainstwin]

No. But you are a hypocrit.

To be honest I think organ donation should be an opt-out scheme, rather than opt in; most people don't sign up due to sheer laziness, or because they are paranoid about urban myths where doctors harvest them for organs alive.

I kinda like the system they've started using in the UK, where getting a provisional license now requires you to decide whether to donate your organs, as well as being asked at any GP you ever sign up to.

OT: well your not evil, but I would be interested in knowing why. As far as im concerned your free to use my body as a pinata when im dead.

 

[AugustFall]

Well this brings up a new perspective on this for me. I don't think you are evil but I also don't think you should be allowed to receive donor organs. If you don't want to help someone live after you are dead then should someone else help you?

Not trying to harsh just an interesting opinion I didn't know I had.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst

screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...

Fully intact and all my proper parts in place

You do know that, since birth, literally every cell in your body has died and been replaced hundreds of thousands of times, right?

Would you opt out of surgery if your appendix burst? How about your tonsils? Wisdom teeth? Would reconstructive surgery using metal or plastics to replace bone count as desecration?

Well I'm alive if I'm having my appendix taken out, and it's to save my life. I'm alive if you're removing my wisdom teeth, unless you're really fucked up (which would be desecration if I'm dead), and I'm alive when you take my tonsils out, which is is preventing very nasty colds. So nope! No desecration.

I'm talking abotu desecration of my corpse, my DEAD body. If I need surgery while alive, sure.

 

[AugustFall]

Fully intact and all my proper parts in place

You will. Then, after you are dead and hurriedly working on trying to decompose, doctors will try and save someone's life with your now useless body parts.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Fully intact and all my proper parts in place

You will. Then, after you are dead and hurriedly working on trying to decompose, doctors will try and save someone's life with your now useless body parts.

THat's a very smart-assed answer. But as I said, I don't really want them to save me with it, so I won't sign my donor card right now. If I decide to allow them to save me with an organ, I'll sign my organ card afterwards

 

[Abedeus]

I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst

screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...

Fully intact and all my proper parts in place

You do know that, since birth, literally every cell in your body has died and been replaced hundreds of thousands of times, right?

Would you opt out of surgery if your appendix burst? How about your tonsils? Wisdom teeth? Would reconstructive surgery using metal or plastics to replace bone count as desecration?

Well I'm alive if I'm having my appendix taken out, and it's to save my life. I'm alive if you're removing my wisdom teeth, unless you're really fucked up (which would be desecration if I'm dead), and I'm alive when you take my tonsils out, which is is preventing very nasty colds. So nope! No desecration.

I'm talking abotu desecration of my corpse, my DEAD body. If I need surgery while alive, sure.

So you'd rather let worms, maggots and predators desecrate your body than people who might help other people? You sicken me.

 

[master m99]

i really wouldent say so but i dont see why you wouldent want to be a doner if you get the chance i mean your not gonna be using them are you?

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I perfectly understand why people feel uncomfortable about organ donation. I mean, even after you die, it's still your body. I know it'll rot and that but hey, humans usually aren't rational when emotions come in to play.

So I definitely don't think it should be compulsory or whatever. It's a very personal decision to make.

That said, I would still try and convince you to get over that and become a donor. The idea that you'll be helping someone (possibly multiple people) help with the uncomfortable idea that people will be cutting you up when you're a goner.

 

[blankedboy]

as long as they leave enough skin to cover what my suit won't (although i want to be cremated) doctahs can take as much as anything from me.
but yeah first comment

No, you're just hypocritical.

i think is /thread

I also think is /thread.
I'll definitely donate my organs once I die... hopefully that doesn't come back to bite me in the ass in the afterlife.
(if there is one, duh)

 

[Sneaky llama]

You're not evil, but you are somewhat selfish. You'd be willing to take someone else's organ when you need it, but you don't want to give yours away after you die and have no further use for them? Aside from religious reasons, I can see no justification for that, given the organs will be useless to you when you die but could prove to be very useful for someone else...

You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!

Your idea may seem right to you but who is anyone to judge you and your reason behind not donating it is your own choice and it is your body to do with what you want. I'm a doner and would not force someone to give there organs. what if that persons reason doesn't make the guideline for removing them from the list? Do we just harvest their organs even though they have said that they do not wish to give them. I kind of agree that everyone should be put on the list when they have reached an age of consent and if they so choose to withdraw from the list then their application should be accepted for whatever reason.

 

[Zeromaeus]

Not evil, just hypocritical with a dash of selfishness.
My father actually had a heart transplant a few years back. After an event like that, I can't fully understand why people don't donate organs.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst

screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...

Fully intact and all my proper parts in place

You do know that, since birth, literally every cell in your body has died and been replaced hundreds of thousands of times, right?

Would you opt out of surgery if your appendix burst? How about your tonsils? Wisdom teeth? Would reconstructive surgery using metal or plastics to replace bone count as desecration?

Well I'm alive if I'm having my appendix taken out, and it's to save my life. I'm alive if you're removing my wisdom teeth, unless you're really fucked up (which would be desecration if I'm dead), and I'm alive when you take my tonsils out, which is is preventing very nasty colds. So nope! No desecration.

I'm talking abotu desecration of my corpse, my DEAD body. If I need surgery while alive, sure.

So you'd rather let worms, maggots and predators desecrate your body than people who might help other people? You sicken me.

I'm quite glad you feel that way /sarcastic apathy

worms, maggots, and predators will still desecrate the hollow husk that is my corpse AFTER the surgeons remove my organs right? That's called nature. Organ removal and transplants is artificial in a way. I won't even take modern medicine unless in extreme circumstances, I ride my colds out, I burn and sweat my fevers out. It's natural.

Oh, and I've not gone along insulting other's points of view or for their opinions. Please keep your personal opinions to yourself simply because you don't see the world through my eyes

 

[Arkhangelsk]

If you are not a donor then you are not allowed to receive donor organs. Seems fair to me. Why can't that not be a law? Maybe they should make everyone a donor by law, but you have to opt out. If you decide you do not want to donate, then you are screwed if you need a transplant.

What about people who can't donate organs due to their frail state or failing? Should we deny them an organ?


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah NO. There's a reason BS like this isn't implemented. Honestly let people decide how to distribute THEIR body parts.

They would be on donor list but would be unable to donate. Way i see it is if you are unwilling to donate your organs, why should you be allowed to have someone else's?

Becoming a donor is supposed to be a charitable thing you do out of the kindness of your heart. Not something you are forced to do because of a legal obligation. By your logic, everyone should also have to give blood in order to receive blood transplants. People have a right to keep their body the way they want it. I am uncomfortable with the idea of having my organs harvested for medical reasons. It's just a personal issue. Why should I be denied an organ transplant just because of this?

Honestly, the idea of forcing people to have their bodies cut open when they die just seems wrong.

So you feel that its ok to deny others your organs and life, but its a different matter if you need an organ? That is just idiotic. If you do not want to donate an organ, why should you be allowed to recieive one?

In my opinion, if I pay (either through private insurance or taking part in the tax payment) for medical care, then should I be denied care even though I've given the pay from my blood and sweat to the hospital? Sure, it might be selfish to not become a donator. But are you suggesting that only the truly altruistic should have the right to good health, or in a broader spectrum, a place in society? Cause that seems like the picture you're painting. We're born with life, and born with the rights to it.

When somebody donates an organ, unless they donate it to a specific person, it's donated to the hospitals. And hospitals are then entitled to use these to those who pay their share to get help, whether they're scum or not. Isn't that what we all want? To be treated equally regardless of outlooks on life?

If a man must be forced to give his organs to have the right to proper health care, we might as well force people who don't give money to charity to give it. Wait, where have I heard that before? Oh, right, it's called communism.

If you disagree with me, fine, I respect your opinion. This is just my perspective. You're welcome to correct me if I've made any fatal mistakes here. (And to any communists, I'm not saying that your political views are wrong. I just prefer a different kind of society.)

 

[RetroViruses]

I don't believe in labels such as "evil" and "good".
That said, you are evil.
I kid, of course, but I don't think you should be allowed to receive organs if you don't sign your organ donor card. That just seems fair.

 

[Uncreation]

No, you're not evil', don't be ridiculous. Also we really need to start working on that whole organ cloning thing. It would solve the whole organ transplant problem. Seriously.

 

[TimeLord]

I am an organ donor and they can take anything but my heart.

I like my heart. Even if I'm dead.

 

[Sneaky llama]

I have a question linked with this. In America do you have to buy the organ? i know you'll have to pay for it to be transported and inserted etc but do you actually have to pay for the organ itself if so it's ridiculous, was it the hospitals to sell. and if it is sold does the doners nearest and dearest get any of the money?

 

[Vrach]

Evil, no, of course not. There's many reasons, including religious ones, why people choose not to donate their organs.

A quote from House with that situation comes to mind: "Well done... religion just killed another person." This is one out of many reasons I dislike religion in general. But don't wanna get off track here...

Being an organ donor doesn't mean they're going to let you die or anything if you get into a bad accident just so they can steal your kidney or something.

This is the one fear I have about it. Not that they're going to let me die to steal my organs, but considering how fast a decision needs to be made in order to preserve them, will they exhaust all options first? I know, it's probably an irrational fear... I blame self preservation though

Still, I'll be getting/signing a donor card in a few years time... want to get out of the country first, hopefully go to Canada, will sign one there when I arrive. Just want to make sure there's a competent medical team around if something's to happen, I don't have too much faith in doctors over here sadly :\

OT: You're not evil, maybe a bit hypocritical. Try to talk it through with someone or just have some good time thinking about it and try to surpass, or at the very least understand what it is that you're uncomfortable with about it. Organ donation is a choice, so it's certainly yours to make, but try to weigh the pro's and con's... personally, aside from the above I can't find many cons and knowing I might one day save someone else's life, or perhaps even several people's lives is one big pro point