I can't donate, so that makes me evil no matter what I do? Comforting ...
But I would gladly donate them when when I die...
But I would gladly donate them when when I die...
I am NOT a donor, am I EDIT: a bad person? EDIT!
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I really want to want to sign up when I become of age, seeing all the help it could do for someone, and also, I wouldn't want to be in someone's position with no organ because someone was too lazy to sign up.
I just don't like the thought of people cutting open my body and taking half the stuff inside and have only the bloody remnants cremated.
Edit: OT: Not evil, but perhaps a little hypocritical if you would like one but not prepared to give one.
I just don't like the thought of people cutting open my body and taking half the stuff inside and have only the bloody remnants cremated.
Edit: OT: Not evil, but perhaps a little hypocritical if you would like one but not prepared to give one.
Erm... evil is a strong word but selfish and irrational... well yeah. That might sound a little harsh but I think the idea of wanting to keep your organs so they can rot in a box or be burnt with the rest of you when they could save lives is just plain mental. I'm atheist though so I can't really put myself into the mindset of somebody who wants to keep them for religious reasons.
Anytime they get skin from a donor they only take it from the back, so it doesn't mess with anyones funeral plans.rekabdarb said:
OT: You're well within your rights to not be an organ donor. I don't understand why anyone would ever have a problem with it though, and I'd urge you to reconsider.
And the idea of you being cut open while simply unconscious during an organ transplant doesn't seem wrong?Internet Kraken said:
As far as I can gather the two ideas suggested; the opt-out system and organs only for donors, aren't forcing anyone to do anything. The opt-out system doesn't force you to donate, it only makes you go through a small amount of effort to not be a donor which you would obviously do if you felt strongly about it.
The organs only for donors system doesn't force anyone to donate either, it simply relies on people who have these problems not wanting to live in the event of organ failure.
Because the little girl is implicitly a better person? more worthy of saving? doing more for the world? has potential?Accountfailed said:
The diabetic has donated a wing to a hospital, ergo increasing it's capacity for saving lives and doing good. The little girl hasn't done anything for anyone, she's a little girl, they're not supposed to.
And the whole potential thing is pointless, she has the potential to be good or bad.
Your choice isn't based on any reason and by judging others and deciding their fate you put yourself on a pillar like those you accuse of being self-important.
As far as the original question goes, no, not evil because that isn't the word:
Selfish is the word. Caring more for an inanimate object that is useless to you instead of saving multiple lives is nothing other than selfish.Madara XIII said:
But it is your choice to be selfish. It's the thinking that I don't understand. It's irrational and childish. By the time those organs will be saving lives you won't be a person. You will have ceased to be anything because what you are is a functioning entity and once you stop functioning you transition from person to someone else's memories. It is no long truly your body, it's a body, nothing can belong to you if you don't exist, hence wills and inheritance.
I'm not a donor because it makes me feel good or I like the idea of it or because I'm self-righteous. I'm a donor because there isn't a reason not to be.
Is a beaver's dam or a bird's nest artificial? If not then why are the creations of humans artificial?Celtic_Kerr said:
Does something being natural thereby make it better than something "artificial"? Dying of starvation because you can't move as a result of a broken leg is natural. Does that make it better than surviving because a hospital put it in a cast?
Also there is nothing in modern medicine for colds except pain killers. Most people ride out colds, you're not any more natural for doing so.
You don't have to be dead to be a donor. You can still live a normal life with one kidney, or a portion of your liver, lung or small bowel removed. No i am not a donor but i would like to donate blood in the future.
OT: Making the decision to donate is a dificult one. You should ask your GP or a local cousilor for imformation about if you want to donate and if you do what you specifically want to donate. Know what you're signing up to. Don't feel pressured making a decision because ultimately you have to deal with it in the end.
Incidentally how many people would donate their body to medical science. You may not be saving a life directly but you would help train those who will.
OT: Making the decision to donate is a dificult one. You should ask your GP or a local cousilor for imformation about if you want to donate and if you do what you specifically want to donate. Know what you're signing up to. Don't feel pressured making a decision because ultimately you have to deal with it in the end.
Incidentally how many people would donate their body to medical science. You may not be saving a life directly but you would help train those who will.
Its ok to donate organs or not do it if u don't want to but don't expect to get saved by someone if u dont want to save someone
Why does everyone take what I say so far from context?NeuroticDogDad said:
Wood is natural, beavers are nature's pets, YES! It is natural. I was born with my organ within my body. I would like to die and decompose as such. THat is my current wish. These are my current thoughts. If I chose to have my life saved through organ transplants, I'll sign my own bloody donor card.
However, taking organs from one man's body and placing them in another's is articifical. Rather than dying, you are taking organs from someone's dead body, keeping them stored on ice, and then using them to keep someone alive when "Their time has come". Those are my beliefs.
You have anti-inflammitories to stop swelling, anti-biotics to stop infection, Ny-Quill to help with congestion and colds, Tylenol for headaches, pain killers for other pains, Vicodin, morphine. When I had my whisdom teeth removed, I used vicodin for two days, and then rode out the pain naturally because I hated the idea of using a man-made creation of medicine to over-ride a natural pain that came from ripping 4 teeth out of my mouth that would have caused me pain for the rest of my life (they were growing sideways towards my jaw-bone).
Your metaphor for a cast is rather vein. When did I say I would never undergo such a treatment? Read ALL my posts before you respond on one, especially if an explanatory post comes after the one you quote. A cast is VERY different from cutting open a dead body and removing organs
It depends, do you mean donating it while you're alive or dead? If the latter then you're not evil, you're just hypocritical. If you mean the former then there's nothing wrong with that, I would not opt into having an operation I didn't need, just to help another person. Although that has nothing to do with me not wanting to help, but I hate operations and I would rather die before I get operated on.
so it would block people from going well now that i need this organ im going to sign this card then unsign it?Madara XIII said:voorhees123 said:If you are not a donor then you are not allowed to receive donor organs. Seems fair to me. Why can't that not be a law? Maybe they should make everyone a donor by law, but you have to opt out. If you decide you do not want to donate, then you are screwed if you need a transplant.
What about people who can't donate organs due to their frail state or failing? Should we deny them an organ?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah NO. There's a reason BS like this isn't implemented. Honestly let people decide how to distribute THEIR body parts.
I'm just selfish. My organs are MY organs. If I'm ever brought back from the dead, I want to have them, or at least their dried out husks intact. Thank you very much.
I don't know you so I don't know if you're evil or not. The only reason I don't have a donner card is that i'm not anticipating my death anytime soon and i'm pretty sure anything that's fast enough to kill me suddenly wouldn't leave my organs intact anyway.
Plus I'm not sure where to get one and I never thought to find out.
Plus I'm not sure where to get one and I never thought to find out.
I'm not an organ donor, simply to annoy all the people who kept going on at me to be one and thus changed my mind. Yes, I may be condemning others to death out of sheer spite.
My opinion on the matter is simple, if you are not a donor you should not receive an organ.
Not being a donor does not make you evil, it just means your beliefs (whatever they are) are more important than someone else's life to you, so they should apply to your own life as well.
Not being a donor does not make you evil, it just means your beliefs (whatever they are) are more important than someone else's life to you, so they should apply to your own life as well.
Thing is...read the fine print. "Organ Donor" Dosen't mean that you're giving your organs to others. It also gives permission for your body to be used for medical experimentation and testing, or for medical instruction, without your next of kin's consent.
