/agreeMaxTheReaper said:Man, I'm glad I wasted three seconds of my life reading that.
It was totally worthwhile.
I was at least hoping for a borderline racist comment.
/agreeMaxTheReaper said:Man, I'm glad I wasted three seconds of my life reading that.
It was totally worthwhile.
I can still punch the cat though, right?Sexual Harassment Panda said:Would really rather you didn't, he's a good man I assure you. It's just that some of the things he says/thinks are retarded...nicholaxxx said:Can... Can I stab your father? not hard... I just want to stab him for that belief...Sexual Harassment Panda said:It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
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Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
Well, we've come to some sort of agreement, then?hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
By that logic I'd be guilty of the same thing. My first post could easily be translated as "OMG BEATLES ARE GOD LOLOLOL", but then in the follow-up post I went on to say that they were indeed overrated, and pointed out some other bad aspects.Lil_Hank93 said:Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
Haha, okay then. Youre funny too.Clashero said:Well, we've come to some sort of agreement, then?hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I'll assume we have, shake your hand and wish you a jolly good day, sir! Glad we could debate this like civilized people.By that logic I'd be guilty of the same thing. My first post could easily be translated as "OMG BEATLES ARE GOD LOLOLOL", but then in the follow-up post I went on to say that they were indeed overrated, and pointed out some other bad aspects.Lil_Hank93 said:Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
I second this. Don't be such a drama queen. Besides I'm willing to bet that it's true because the Beatles were a bit before your generations time...asuuming you are 14 (and you are).xmetatr0nx said:Wow all that lead up just for that? Lame lame story. I suppose were supposed to now jump on your bandwagon of melodramatic over reaction and condemn this kids existance? Well the other 14 year olds will come around soon enough.
Just goes to show that if someone comes at you vulgarly it will only incite further arguement, but if someone orders their points and speaks to you rationally, it'll get you a lot farther.Lil_Hank93 said:Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.hobo_welf said:I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.Clashero said:I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:hobo_welf said:Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.Clashero said:Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
Dude, thats my new motto.Valate said:I live on the Ronald McGoddamned Moon, you can't tax that.MaxTheReaper said:I just said we were the IRS.Valate said:You may take my nose, damnit, but you'll never take my FREEDOM!
So that's really not very accurate.
Wow, you have no ear for talent whatsoever. Congratulations.hobo_welf said:Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Here we go to the age old comment "Ringo sucked." I would have to respectfully disagree with that.Clashero said:And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
Alright, allow me to correct: he was the least impressive (?) Beatle. He was, er... comparatively bad. That is, John, Paul and to a lesser degree George were irreplaceable, but no one would've noticed if they switched Ringo for any drummer who looked like him.cah318ery7 said:Here we go to the age old comment "Ringo sucked." I would have to respectfully disagree with that.Clashero said:And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
In recording, what would many times take Paul and John many takes to get a song down, Ringo had his part perfect in one. It doesn't matter how simple it is, that is good.
Secondly, he never messed up live. I can't say the same for Neil Peart (my hero), Carl Palmer, or Keith Moon.
Thirdly, he kept a beat. That makes him a good drummer. It doesn't matter how technical you can play, if you can't keep a steady tempo, your a bad drummer. Plain and simple. If you can't keep a tempo, that is when you get fired and the band buys a drum machine. (hyperbole)
Ringo is by no means a technical drummer, and I am sure many other people could play most of his licks. But, he most certainly was not an awful drummer.
I'm not going to judge you for it. Cats are selfish, and feel entitled to stick their wrinkly sphincters in your face. If you ask me...cat has it coming.nicholaxxx said:I can still punch the cat though, right?Sexual Harassment Panda said:Would really rather you didn't, he's a good man I assure you. It's just that some of the things he says/thinks are retarded...nicholaxxx said:Can... Can I stab your father? not hard... I just want to stab him for that belief...Sexual Harassment Panda said:It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
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I agree... wait, hang on. Back up a second.Sexual Harassment Panda said:It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
Sexual Harassment Panda said:My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now
Sexual Harassment Panda said:Talented
Sexual Harassment Panda said:Musician
Sexual Harassment Panda said:Lady Gaga
What.Sexual Harassment Panda said:My dad thinks