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VicunaBlue

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MaxTheReaper said:
Man, I'm glad I wasted three seconds of my life reading that.
It was totally worthwhile.
/agree

I was at least hoping for a borderline racist comment.
 

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Sexual Harassment Panda said:
nicholaxxx said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
Can... Can I stab your father? not hard... I just want to stab him for that belief...

must.
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urge.
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Would really rather you didn't, he's a good man I assure you. It's just that some of the things he says/thinks are retarded...
I can still punch the cat though, right?
 

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hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
 

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hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Well, we've come to some sort of agreement, then?
I'll assume we have, shake your hand and wish you a jolly good day, sir! Glad we could debate this like civilized people.
Lil_Hank93 said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
By that logic I'd be guilty of the same thing. My first post could easily be translated as "OMG BEATLES ARE GOD LOLOLOL", but then in the follow-up post I went on to say that they were indeed overrated, and pointed out some other bad aspects.
 

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Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Well, we've come to some sort of agreement, then?
I'll assume we have, shake your hand and wish you a jolly good day, sir! Glad we could debate this like civilized people.
Lil_Hank93 said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
By that logic I'd be guilty of the same thing. My first post could easily be translated as "OMG BEATLES ARE GOD LOLOLOL", but then in the follow-up post I went on to say that they were indeed overrated, and pointed out some other bad aspects.
Haha, okay then. Youre funny too. :D
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Wow all that lead up just for that? Lame lame story. I suppose were supposed to now jump on your bandwagon of melodramatic over reaction and condemn this kids existance? Well the other 14 year olds will come around soon enough.
I second this. Don't be such a drama queen. Besides I'm willing to bet that it's true because the Beatles were a bit before your generations time...asuuming you are 14 (and you are).
 

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Lil_Hank93 said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.

The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.

The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.

I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.

Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.

And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.

And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
I was going to come out of the corner swinging, but you just said exactly what I feel. And that disarmed me just a little bit.
Haha, I like how people have so much hate and rip on things and then drop their original thinking when someone who sounds smart argues with you.
You first stated that the beatles had NO talent and were irritating and useless. You then followed by pointing out their good points. XD
Priceless.
Just goes to show that if someone comes at you vulgarly it will only incite further arguement, but if someone orders their points and speaks to you rationally, it'll get you a lot farther.

Also I seem to remember stating that the Beatles made a wonderful contribution to the world of music. It's just too bad they didn't make any good music doing it. Then again I generally hate pop music, so what do I know...
 

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hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Wow, you have no ear for talent whatsoever. Congratulations.

OT:

The Beatles is one of the most popular bands of all time. Everyones heard about the Beatles
 

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Clashero said:
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
Here we go to the age old comment "Ringo sucked." I would have to respectfully disagree with that.

In recording, what would many times take Paul and John many takes to get a song down, Ringo had his part perfect in one. It doesn't matter how simple it is, that is good.

Secondly, he never messed up live. I can't say the same for Neil Peart (my hero), Carl Palmer, or Keith Moon.

Thirdly, he kept a beat. That makes him a good drummer. It doesn't matter how technical you can play, if you can't keep a steady tempo, your a bad drummer. Plain and simple. If you can't keep a tempo, that is when you get fired and the band buys a drum machine. (hyperbole)

Ringo is by no means a technical drummer, and I am sure many other people could play most of his licks. But, he most certainly was not an awful drummer.
 

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cah318ery7 said:
Clashero said:
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.
Here we go to the age old comment "Ringo sucked." I would have to respectfully disagree with that.

In recording, what would many times take Paul and John many takes to get a song down, Ringo had his part perfect in one. It doesn't matter how simple it is, that is good.

Secondly, he never messed up live. I can't say the same for Neil Peart (my hero), Carl Palmer, or Keith Moon.

Thirdly, he kept a beat. That makes him a good drummer. It doesn't matter how technical you can play, if you can't keep a steady tempo, your a bad drummer. Plain and simple. If you can't keep a tempo, that is when you get fired and the band buys a drum machine. (hyperbole)

Ringo is by no means a technical drummer, and I am sure many other people could play most of his licks. But, he most certainly was not an awful drummer.
Alright, allow me to correct: he was the least impressive (?) Beatle. He was, er... comparatively bad. That is, John, Paul and to a lesser degree George were irreplaceable, but no one would've noticed if they switched Ringo for any drummer who looked like him.
 

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Now we have two often seen groups here in their native habitat. On the surface, these amazing creatures look almost identical, but they suddenly change when instigated, observe:
"BEATLES!"
*squabble squabble squabble*

You see, these magnificent beasts come in two distinct forms cleverly engineered to impress mates and peers.

The first kind is the enthusiast, this one loves the Beatles, and can't stop mentioning how they were the best band ever. They believe that music died with John Lennon and that if a band was formed in the 80s or later, then it doesn't actually exist (bar a few), a truly interesting breed. They use this to appear as though they have good taste, which occasionally they do, but they are herd animals and often incapable of surviving away from their pack.

The second kind, the defector is almost the polar opposite, they will often mention how the band ripped of Chuck Berry and Elvis, which though an interesting hypothesis show's a serious lack of knowledge. The kind we find here, the Nerdanus Defectus often believe that music released before they were born must be terrible and disregard it instantly, preferring metal/techno to classic rock, which isn't a bad survival trait, I'm sure. Often this species can sustain relations with others of it's kind, but due to it's natural predatorial instincts, it finds it difficult to deal with those outside it's own kind, notably enthusiasts who find the defector aggressive and thickheaded but also other breeds of defector, such as the Bimbo Defectus a species that spends most of it's time enjoying "the charts" (charts are a simplified version of modern music, often replacing musical ability with Jewish words).

There is also a superior species, noted for the individuality and strength of each individual member and for their ability to constructively work together, these are the efficionados. They maintain their own thought-out opinion, often that the Beatles are good, but that they prefer other music personally. This likes to observe accurately the current scene, but also research what the past has to offer. The closest to a true sentient animal, they have an egalitarian social structure, with the most skilled observers and thinkers rising to the top. An interesting note is that the other species we can see roaming this area, the Hip Hoppity Bopper, known to be somewhat ignorant of music outside there own realm (often house, hip hop, electro) is one of the most respectful, rarely criticising music they don't know and often mentioning how blues, jazz and rock are responsible for most of modern music, with artist such as Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, Ray Charles and even the Beatles to thank.
 
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nicholaxxx said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
nicholaxxx said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
Can... Can I stab your father? not hard... I just want to stab him for that belief...

must.
resist.
urge.
to.
punch.
cat.
Would really rather you didn't, he's a good man I assure you. It's just that some of the things he says/thinks are retarded...
I can still punch the cat though, right?
I'm not going to judge you for it. Cats are selfish, and feel entitled to stick their wrinkly sphincters in your face. If you ask me...cat has it coming.
 

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Sexual Harassment Panda said:
It's a stupid thing to say, granted...probably more stupid to feel that it warranted a thread. My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now, the absurdity of that claim far outweighs what you explained...
I agree... wait, hang on. Back up a second.

Sexual Harassment Panda said:
My dad thinks that Lady Gaga is the most talented musician around right now
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
Lady Gaga
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
My dad thinks
What.