I do not like Top 5 with Lisa Foiles

[Firehound]

I don't watch it. The top 5 lists I saw were.... dissapointing.

She just can't compare to that fellow with the hat who doesn't use punctuation when he speaks.

And if it wasn't overwhelmingly obvious- I come to the escapist for the zero punctuation, and then stay for the news and reviews, and other good stuff. Lisa does not appeal to me in any sense of the word. She is not funny, her lists don't seem that good, and I'm sorry, but after watching some of the funniest damn zero punctuation, she just got the losing straw of trying to outfunny the funny in my schedule.

Maybe I'll watch her newest video to make sure it wasn't an off-day or something. However, she now has to outperform the epic Tron:Legacy soundtrack.

 

[2fish]

I agree she needs to make it the top 7 the number 5 is overused. While her work can be hit or miss and she is like the blonde energizer bunny at times she is good overall. While the OP can keep their opion I alwasy wonder about topics that are vauge on why they dislike something. She outdoes much of the internet, she is cool by me.

I agree with you. I've watched two episodes and all I've hear was "I'M A CHICK GAMER PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!11!!!!"


Dear god I can't stand people like that.

You know you just listed 99.7% of the people who post on the internet yes? (well once you add my edit it works... so there)


Why do so many places use the number 5 does it have a contract or somthing?

 

[My name is Fiction]

And your point is?

"I don't think there is a point, the word your looking for is RANT."

 

[IMakeIce]

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In all honesty, I really have a hard time listening and watching Graham and Paul for much the same reasons I have a hard time watching Lisa. Their delivery and material is contrived. They mistake overusing voices, hesitation, stating-of-the-obvious as comedy. They get it half the time, but they are repetitive and forced the other half.

For example, the entire first minute and a half of this week's unskippable (Vanquish) was painful. Their reactions to the "...new Russian state..." ("WHAT?" in tandem) and the chick's dress ("Whoa! Don't know why..." in tandem) were both perfectly timed, natural, and garnered a chuckle because it actually played well on the ridiculousness of the scene.

I'm saying that you are right, Graham and Paul could have a discussion about a ton of games if I met them on the street, and it would be a good time probably, but they don't have a great feel for giving a punchline on camera/microphone and being good entertainers; neither do a good majority of the gamers who fit what you want in a game-themed show. Lisa, from what I can tell, can't do either.

Yahtzee, as mentioned above, is a good example of the rare person who can do both. He doesn't draw things out unnecessarily, keeps things relevant, digresses only when there's something that will be entertaining rather than filler, is consistent, etc. He's an entertainer. To play off of your sports metaphor, you would dislike, just as much as the cheerleader, the sports equivalent of the basement-gamer...the mesh-cap, fantasy footballer who lives the game as much as any announcer, but who's only social interactions are yelling at the opposing team through the television.

There's a reason not anyone can put up a popular vlog or podcast about something a lot of people like. They have to know it _and_ be entertainers. That was my point.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

To the people who say, 'you don't have to watch it'.

Well, you didn't have to comment either. Heh.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

...and?

You can say it all you want, no-one is going to particurly care. HelL, I don't like Jello, you see me making a thread about it.

You don't like jello omg I should make a thread about how I don't like how you don't like jello.

You don't like how they don't like jello, I should make a thread about how I don't like, that you don't like how he/she doesn't like jello

I don't like the tone of your text. I'm going to make a thread about my feelings on this subject.

 

[Vortigar]

I'm reading loads of people here who seem to instantly dislike it because she's acting out the 'gamer grrrl' persona. That's it? We can enjoy people who make complete idiots out of themselves by running the geek-rage joke ironically. But the opposite angle can't be done?

As someone who enjoys analyzing the psychology of stuff like this I'd say: interesting. Now how does that make you feel?

Seriously though.
I hate giggling girls with a passion. I always feel like I'm being laughed at whenever that sound reaches my ears. It makes me nervous as hell. This has to do with a combination of experiences and self-doubt.

Yet I can enjoy those little top fives. Its rather banal, yes, but pretty funny.

Does it fit the high-brow image we like to have of ourselves here? No. But according to that principle half the shows should be excised.

I personally think this show is being judged over-harshly because there's a hot girl in there and that messes with the concept of "us gamers". Which this site is trying to subvert at every turn. Girls in gaming is one of the most talked about subjects here. Yet this girl in gaming is not allowed.

We should be welcoming her yet get a backlash like this because she's pandering? Pandering why? Because she's hot and we're guys. Take a long, hard look at the problems inherent in that. Please.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

I like Lisa Foiles. I am not however, much a fan of the way she utilizes the art of listing as an entertainment medium. This is my opinion on the matter.

 

[shemoanscazrex3]

...and?

You can say it all you want, no-one is going to particurly care. HelL, I don't like Jello, you see me making a thread about it.

You don't like jello omg I should make a thread about how I don't like how you don't like jello.

You don't like how they don't like jello, I should make a thread about how I don't like, that you don't like how he/she doesn't like jello

I don't like the tone of your text. I'm going to make a thread about my feelings on this subject.

Oh yeah, well when you do let me know. I'll make a thread about my feelings on your feelings of the subject and I promise you you are going to be in for it

 

[veloper]

I really cannot stand the show, here on the escapist. Top 5 with Lisa Foiles isn't particularly funny, informative, generally entertaining or insightful, so

The show is supposed to be ironic. It rarely succeeds.
What's it's NOT supposed to be is informative or insightful and that should be obvious.

Still it's better than "i hit it with my axe", gamedogs and unskippable.

I think Foiles could almost succeed. She takes shallow fashion programmes, adapts them to the gaming scene and makes fun of them by slightly overdoing it.
Maybe it just doesn't work because many of us are mercifully unexposed to the kind of shows LF tries to make a parody of.

 

[Fanta Grape]

I really cannot stand the show, here on the escapist. Top 5 with Lisa Foiles isn't particularly funny, informative, generally entertaining or insightful, so

The show is supposed to be ironic. It rarely succeeds.
What's it's NOT supposed to be is informative or insightful and that should be obvious.

Still it's better than "i hit it with my axe", gamedogs and unskippable.

I think Foiles could almost succeed. She takes shallow fashion programmes, adapts them to the gaming scene and makes fun of them by slightly overdoing it.
Maybe it just doesn't work because many of us are mercifully unexposed to the kind of shows LF tries to make a parody of.

Wait Wait. You don't like Unskippables? Clearly you haven't seen the best it has to offer

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/520-The-Getaway

My personal favourite

 

[Asuka Soryu]

...and?

You can say it all you want, no-one is going to particurly care. HelL, I don't like Jello, you see me making a thread about it.

You don't like jello omg I should make a thread about how I don't like how you don't like jello.

You don't like how they don't like jello, I should make a thread about how I don't like, that you don't like how he/she doesn't like jello

I don't like the tone of your text. I'm going to make a thread about my feelings on this subject.

Oh yeah, well when you do let me know. I'll make a thread about my feelings on your feelings of the subject and I promise you you are going to be in for it

Oh, really? Well when you make that thread about your feelings about my feelings on the subject, then I'll make a thread about how I dislike threads about threads about threads involving people disliking threads about threads about people's feelings on the subject.

 

[blankedboy]

I don't either.

But I gave it its chance, its second chance, and when I found myself still
not liking it at all and still highly annoyed by Lisa, I just stopped watching
the videos and reading the comments that followed it.

Viola.

Edit:
Why I don't like it? Seems to be the real question.

[Personal opinion]
I don't like annoying, high-pitched, awkward, pandering bottle-dyed blonds.
And seeing most of the people who like it, fall all over it because they hope
she'll find them and do something to them physically. Which is a dream.

Females like Lisa are a cause of extreme annoyance for me,
especially since I grew up around a lot of them. The fact that they
weren't like that all the time, and were a different person when guys
weren't around, only caused my annoyance in them to increase to the
point of pen-snapping frustration.

I feel like I am watching another youtube vloggity list about something that
is just blatant self-marketing - with the cover of video games, when it really
has nothing to do with them. And it irritates me that I thought I came to a
place that wasn't like that.

I'm not saying someone can't be beautiful and into videos games.
But there is a real fine line, for me, about it.

Being beautiful, classy, and actually talking about video game stuff that
people find interesting besides, "Weirdest Character Trinkets" would be great.

But all I see is useless lists, mass amounts of overacting, blatant
sexual self-marketing and I PERSONALLY consider that trashy.
[/ Personal opinion]

Then again, if you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all. *eye-twitch*.

Whoa, whoa whoa... what the hell are you doing to your paragraphs? That's hell to read D:
Just keep on writing if you're making a paragraph, there's no need to separate lines unless they're distinctly unrelated... or you have a smiley at the end, like I did xD

 

[_Janny_]

Out of curiosity, do any women actually watch that show? I tried one episode (I think it was this week's) and immediately thought, "Wow, this is really not for me."

I watch it every now and then simply because I'm curious. And it's hard to ignore a huge smiling face that pops on the main screen every week. I don't hate the show; it has potential to be entertaining but it just needs that certain something, IMO.

 

[Vohn_exel]

I don't care for "Gamedogs," or "I hit it with my axe." Infact, I tried to get into "A Good Knights quest," but couldn't get into it, even though I didn't have much of a problem with it. But, I have to say that I generally just don't watch the shows that I don't like. I doubt they'll stop making them, and thats fine with me. So long as they keep adding in Loading Ready Runs, Unskippables, Doomsday Arcades and Zero Punctuations, they can add all of the other types of shows they want.

 

[Sayvara]

Because this opinion is entirely personal and did not carry any sort of relevance for anyone except for the poster.

There is never an opinion with no relevance to anyone else

Yes there are. My opinion on opinions is this grand old saying:

Opinions are like *rseholes: everybody's got one

...to which I always add...

...and if you want me to look at yours, it had better be a good one

Which is perfectly true, for both opinions and rear ends.

The arguments for an opinion is what matters. That's the difference bewteen an interresting and a "Meh!" opinion. But the OP did not post any good arguments so that makes it a Meh-opinion for that.

/S

 

[EeveeElectro]

I love how everyone is saying 'Just don't watch it' over and over again. If several other people posted what my response would be, I'd just leave it. I'm pretty sure OP is asking why people do watch it.

I don't watch it. I think it's quite superficial but each to their own. I'm guessing it's popular because she's attractive and I guess it's a clever move. Like the girl who does the videos on the 360 who looks like she hasn't even picked up a controller in her life, attractiveness grabs attention ;D

 

[Colour Scientist]

Out of curiosity, do any women actually watch that show? I tried one episode (I think it was this week's) and immediately thought, "Wow, this is really not for me."

Which is just fine and all, but she at some point addressed 'Ladies' during the video, and it got me wondering. Not to mention that the clothing, hairstyles and accessories of characters in games is something I think girls would be more interested in than guys. Is this just a bizarre case of not knowing the target demographic, or am I wrong on this?

I've watched every episode so far, I've not yet decided my opinion on it.

I think it's an attempt to reach out to women while still maintaining the fanbase of the men(her appearance) of this site which is a difficult thing to do and it kind of falls through the cracks. I could be wrong though.

Perhaps her awkwardness with humour might just be because she's just starting out with the webshow and hasn't settled into a rhythm yet. Yahtzee's early videos weren't as quick and sharp as his subsequent ones.

I'm willing to give it a chance anyway.