I dont get why these people do it... i never do...

[Adzma]

Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

You say that but in fairness you have no right to determine what one chooses to do with one's own life.

 

[IxionIndustries]

Wow.. I apologize for that, but in all honesty, if somebody is really that serious about committing suicide for stupid reasons such as "Getting in a fight with the missus'", then by all means, they should off themselves.

I mean, unless she like, killed their dog, stole all their money and left them homeless, that is a really pathetic reason for somebody wanting to kill themselves.

 

[hagaya]

I've been a makeshift psychologist for a few of my friends. One of them was on the brink of suicide, then I talked to her for 2 hours and then she never even thought about it again. I've caused people to stop cutting themselves, and made them much more pleasant people in the process.

People have emotional problems, and this kind of thing happens a lot in teenagers. The reason is they are confused, as the problems that cause it start erupting; with nowhere else to turn and when they feel the world is against them, they think that best way is to leave it. It's a rash decision, and it's never the answer. It takes bravery, but it's also one of the dumbest things a person could do. When you reach the bottom, the only way to go is up.

 

[Firia]

I've been there, like, twice in my life (I'm staring down the barrel of my 30's, so, it's not like it's back to back). When the one woman I ever really loved chose some guy over me, thoughts of death crossed my mind. Years later, when my best friend canned our friendship (cause I was stupid for a second), I entertained the idea pretty criticly.

I'm still here, but I imagine were I less stable, or things just a little less tollerable, I may have had a moment of weakness from which there was no recovery. A teen had a world of things on their mind. Hormones, we've all heard, going nuts. Things are changing. If the relationship the guy was in, was serious (from his perspective), then it might have been crushing on a scale I can understand.

It's sad that your girlfriend knows people in the incident. I'm sad for the girlfriend of the deceased, and his parents.

 

[Aesir23]

Ok, I know this is seriously off topic, even for an off topic thread but I feel I have to say it. No, I'm not trying to provoke flames or anything of the sort, just voicing my opinion even if it is extremely unpopular.

Ok, here goes:

On the topic of suicide, whenever I hear the old "They are selfish idiots who only care about themselves." argument, I can't help help but become seriously pissed off, mostly because most of these people don't know what it's like to be in a state of mind where you seriously consider killing yourself.

I've been in a similar situation, when despair fucks with your mind. It honest to god SEEMS like there is no other option, and then you start thinking that the world will be better without yourself, e.t.c.

Shit likes that happens because they are put in a situation of mass emotion where there minds stop thinking logically and only see one solution.

This is exactly what it's like.

*deep breath* Ok, I'm done. Now, I'm going to take cover behind my flame shield.

 

[dududf]

Ok, I know this is seriously off topic, even for an off topic thread but I feel I have to say it. No, I'm not trying to provoke flames or anything of the sort, just voicing my opinion even if it is extremely unpopular.

Ok, here goes:

On the topic of suicide, whenever I hear the old "They are selfish idiots who only care about themselves." argument, I can't help help but become seriously pissed off, mostly because most of these people don't know what it's like to be in a state of mind where you seriously consider killing yourself.

I've been in a similar situation, when despair fucks with your mind. It honest to god SEEMS like there is no other option, and then you start thinking that the world will be better without yourself, e.t.c.

Shit likes that happens because they are put in a situation of mass emotion where there minds stop thinking logically and only see one solution.

This is exactly what it's like.

*deep breath* Ok, I'm done. Now, I'm going to take cover behind my flame shield.

Why do you need to ver behind a lfame shield

All you did was say this is a serious off topic, and that you disagree with the "Selfish idiots" common response, then quote my description >_>

Ah well...

 

[FluffyNeurosis]

Sounds like someone has poor decision making skills!

 

[teutonicman]

They've been mind fucked and gotta share the misery.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

You would kill to be in his position? Apparently so would he, kill himself anyways.

You said he was in a fight? -Re-reads OP- yep, unstability, emotionally or otherwise, as well as possible over-attatchment to said girl, after the fight he may of become overcome with a form of greif and some rage, causing him to kill himself while making the girl hear it.
That Chemical unbalance thing sounds about right as well.

But that's just off the top of my head, that and that some people are just plain moronic.

 

[Robby Foxfur]

I'm just gonna call this stupidity and natural selection, This is just Whaaaa, he didn't know what to do and he just ended it before it began, call me uncaring but i can't feel sorry for someone at the first sign of trouble he took the ultimate cowards way out.

 

[Aesir23]

Ok, I know this is seriously off topic, even for an off topic thread but I feel I have to say it. No, I'm not trying to provoke flames or anything of the sort, just voicing my opinion even if it is extremely unpopular.

Ok, here goes:

On the topic of suicide, whenever I hear the old "They are selfish idiots who only care about themselves." argument, I can't help help but become seriously pissed off, mostly because most of these people don't know what it's like to be in a state of mind where you seriously consider killing yourself.

I've been in a similar situation, when despair fucks with your mind. It honest to god SEEMS like there is no other option, and then you start thinking that the world will be better without yourself, e.t.c.

Shit likes that happens because they are put in a situation of mass emotion where there minds stop thinking logically and only see one solution.

This is exactly what it's like.

*deep breath* Ok, I'm done. Now, I'm going to take cover behind my flame shield.

Why do you need to ver behind a lfame shield

All you did was say this is a serious off topic, and that you disagree with the "Selfish idiots" common response, then quote my description >_>

Ah well...

Because I know people will disagree with me and if there are any particularly vehement responses, I'd rather not be charred to a blackened crisp.

 

[Chrissyluky]

hahahahahahahaahhahahahaha.......oh thanks for the laugh, I was feeling so down I was about to kill myself. Gotta love people. Means more cake for me in the end.

You're an incredibly evil bastard. Just reinforcing what you already know.

And they kill themselves on a moment of passion. I bet he was drunk/high at the time.

honestly i didnt care either. oh no some stupid kid committed suicide move on and get over it IMO. you can say im a bit heartless but does it really matter to you if some stupid kid does this when there are children in africa who are starving? Spoiled children who end it like this just want attention and again sorry its a bit of a heartless post but thats how i feel about the subject.

 

[dududf]

Ok, I know this is seriously off topic, even for an off topic thread but I feel I have to say it. No, I'm not trying to provoke flames or anything of the sort, just voicing my opinion even if it is extremely unpopular.

Ok, here goes:

On the topic of suicide, whenever I hear the old "They are selfish idiots who only care about themselves." argument, I can't help help but become seriously pissed off, mostly because most of these people don't know what it's like to be in a state of mind where you seriously consider killing yourself.

I've been in a similar situation, when despair fucks with your mind. It honest to god SEEMS like there is no other option, and then you start thinking that the world will be better without yourself, e.t.c.

Shit likes that happens because they are put in a situation of mass emotion where there minds stop thinking logically and only see one solution.

This is exactly what it's like.

*deep breath* Ok, I'm done. Now, I'm going to take cover behind my flame shield.

Why do you need to ver behind a lfame shield

All you did was say this is a serious off topic, and that you disagree with the "Selfish idiots" common response, then quote my description >_>

Ah well...

Because I know people will disagree with me and if there are any particularly vehement responses, I'd rather not be charred to a blackened crisp.

To be frank, I don't think you'll be flamed at for something that small...

Just disagreein?

Naw you have to do much more.

But if you sincerely believe you'll be served extra crispy, here.

I award thee with the almighty FLAME SHIELD!

*Que LoZ Item pick up music*

 

[Emperor Inferno]

There's no good reason. He was either emotionally unstable (And I mean really unstable. Standard teenage emotional instability doesn't even come close.) or medically insane. Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

Yes, there is, and people who think that way have never truly, truly suffered. The only thing is, some of the people who do have a good reason to choose not to.

On topic, I was actually going to do that exact same thing for the exact same reason. The only difference is I had planned on showing up at her house and doing it right in front of her in person, really fuck up her life and her mind. I wanted her to suffer, to feel guilty, to watch the man she still had feelings for die and to know that it was her fault. It was as much a matter of hatred for her as it was a matter of my own suffering. I, however, am one of the people who choose not to go through with it.

Now, don't get me wrong, her breaking my heart wasn't my only reason, not by a long shot. It was the straw that broke the camel's back - well, almost.

 

[Aesir23]

Ok, I know this is seriously off topic, even for an off topic thread but I feel I have to say it. No, I'm not trying to provoke flames or anything of the sort, just voicing my opinion even if it is extremely unpopular.

Ok, here goes:

On the topic of suicide, whenever I hear the old "They are selfish idiots who only care about themselves." argument, I can't help help but become seriously pissed off, mostly because most of these people don't know what it's like to be in a state of mind where you seriously consider killing yourself.

I've been in a similar situation, when despair fucks with your mind. It honest to god SEEMS like there is no other option, and then you start thinking that the world will be better without yourself, e.t.c.

Shit likes that happens because they are put in a situation of mass emotion where there minds stop thinking logically and only see one solution.

This is exactly what it's like.

*deep breath* Ok, I'm done. Now, I'm going to take cover behind my flame shield.

Why do you need to ver behind a lfame shield

All you did was say this is a serious off topic, and that you disagree with the "Selfish idiots" common response, then quote my description >_>

Ah well...

Because I know people will disagree with me and if there are any particularly vehement responses, I'd rather not be charred to a blackened crisp.

To be frank, I don't think you'll be flamed at for something that small...

Just disagreein?

Naw you have to do much more.

But if you sincerely believe you'll be served extra crispy, here.

I award thee with the almighty FLAME SHIELD!

*Que LoZ Item pick up music*

Ok, that made my day right there. XD

I'm seriously saving that to my pictures folder.

 

[Deleted]

I would never kill myself over someone else, I can't love someone that much. I'm going to die with a few good acquaintances.

 

[dududf]

*Sir Snippity the Fourth of Vangelick

My pleasure.

You should see all of the stuff in my funny picture folder...33.5mb and growing every day.

 

[Cain_Zeros]

Emotional instability, likely clinical depression, bipolar or a temporary chemical inbalance. It could be just a simple burnout (from being pressured by the lovely family into getting straight A's, living a perfectly happy life, and being perfect, etc). I really need more information to go on.

That someone has straight A's, or what you percieve from the outside as a good family means nothing. Grades don't prove or disprove intelligence, or disposition, it doesn't give us any information to go on. That you percieve his family life as good from the outside doesn't really mean anything either, what you would consider a good family, and what others would consider a good family is different, and your perceptions of it might differ from reality.

With that out of the way, it is rarely seen as the only solution, but often the only bearable one. Clinical depression is rough, it get's really bad. Bipolar is even worse. A burnout is similar, in ways. Often a sense of perspective is lost, and consequences get exaggerated. The slightest, smallest error, or thing that goes wrong can feel like the end of the world. I've experienced it myself, nothing seems to work, everything just piles up, and that tiny, small, little thing just gets you. It could be as simple as someone saying you're wrong. I had a teacher who got that, she was suffering from a burnout, and while recovering returned to school for a single class to see how it went. A student contradicted her, not in a harmful manner, or anything, but it was enough that she broke down into tears.

The attention argument put up by TheGreatCoolEnergy is a surprisingly valid one, for something put in such a ridiculous way, as well, but in an entirely different way, and for entirely different reasons than those presented, of course. With depression, or a burnout, or whatever, you usually realise you have a problem, that you need help. But it's not something that's easy to talk about. It's usually not a conscious motivation, it's just your body's defense mechanisms way of making sure someone will notice, someone who can take better care of you than you can. Sometimes those mechanisms backfire, and take it too far (sort of like with a fever, it's designed to kill whatever ails you, but your body will keep heating you up until you break). That's what happens in suicide cases. I've been there myself, both with an attempted suicide or three, and other actions I can't later explain. I once threw a chandelier through my bedroom window. I wasn't angry, or anything like that, it just made sense at the time. I really needed help, and I couldn't communicate it, so that's what I did.

Yet another reason could be the fight, probably in combination with the other factors. With all that in mind, pressure, whatever ailments was there, whatever issues we have no knowledge of, perhaps the only person he truly reached out to was her, not to say he didn't have any other friends, but putting all your stakes on a single person, staking your very being on that person, it can seem very logical at times, and it's very easy to do. Getting into a fight with such a person could easily be the proverbial final haystack that broke the camel's back.


Also, I know this should be common sense, but don't listen to the insensitive assholes who don't know what they're talking about. I wish there was some way I could make people stop speaking out about things they have absolutely no idea about, especially in insensitive and rude ways, but unfortunately there isn't.


I know I sound a bit cold when I write this, but I'm trying to make an impartial assesment of the situation, to answer your question. My condolences to your girlfriend, you, and his family. I hope I've given you something to think about, I know blaming him, calling him stupid for taking his life is easy, and probably feels pretty good, but unless we understand these things, it will happen again, maybe not to you or anyone close to you again, if you're lucky, but people like some of the fuckjobs in this thread are causing a lot more problems than they could ever imagine with attitudes like the one's they have, even if it is just an act on the internet.

Finally, someone in this thread who has some idea of what the fuck they're talking about.

 

[Aesir23]

*Sir Snippity the Fourth of Vangelick

My pleasure.

You should see all of the stuff in my funny picture folder...33.5mb and growing every day.

My computer had to be wiped clean recently so I lost all my funny pictures. My pictures folder shall return to it's former glory!