I dont get why these people do it... i never do...

[Cain_Zeros]

Yeah, quite possibly (haven't been diagnosed) struggling with clinical depression myself it's nice to see that someone's aware that there's a huge difference between it and being a whiny little attention-whoring shit. And it's also nice to see that someone's smart enough to realize that just because things seem OK doesn't mean they are. People with clinical depression often don't let anyone see what's going on. There could be a number of reasons for this. Me, I didn't want to burden anyone with the issues of someone so pathetic and worthless. I'm not quite so bad now, I've realized that there are people who care about me and want to help, and that I should let them. But some people never get to the point I have. And I'm not completely better by any means. You never really are with this sort of thing.

There really is a difference between clinical depression and the attention seeking side of things. And its sad when people cant seem to be able to tell the difference. And on a side note i have just recently seen a friend who has battling some serious stuff over the last 8 years (and shes 18 btw) come out out of it and its incredible.

Yeah, the ignorant asstards don't help either. People need to stop stigmatizing depression, and they also need to stop feigning it for attention. If those two (highly unlikely) things happen, people who are actually dealing with it will be more likely to seek help. I think that's another part of why I didn't. I didn't want to be dismissed as another attention-seeking little puke with nothing better to do. Our society really is stupid about that. We have resources to help people, but we make them afraid to take advantage of them.

 

[Ghengis_tron]

Silvers post was spot on. I know people may have a difficult time understanding why someone would take their own life, but when you can no longer cope with the difficulties in your life your mind becomes your own worst enemy. If someone on the street tells you you are a piece of shit you can just walk away and possibly never see them again. You cannot escape your own thoughts without proper help.

When you can no longer cope with everyday life, anything can be a trigger and if you are mentally unstable at that point, suicide doesn't look so bad.

 

[Pegghead]

It really does take alot for someone to commit suicide, clearly beneath the surface there was alot on his plate and his girlfriend breaking up with him drove him over the edge. A life really is a terrible thing to waste.

 

[Dr. Love]

He's a coward to afraid to face his own pathetic teenage problems

that is your reason

 

[101194]

There's no good reason. He was either emotionally unstable (And I mean really unstable. Standard teenage emotional instability doesn't even come close.) or medically insane. Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

Really? Not even a little suicidal thought? Not even a little bit?

 

[Dr. Love]

Well then i'm a coward, But the opinion still stands if the moron is lying dead from his own hand.

 

[DracoSuave]

Asking a board of living people their opinion on the validity of suicide is more likely to get 'Well I'm not a committer of suicide' type people than 'I did it, and it solved all my problems.'


Just sayin'.

 

[The Rockerfly]

I personally think there must have been other factors in this suicide; family problems, financial problems, stress from work or school. Killing himself over something like this probably means he is unstable either chemically, mentally or there were other factors to lead him to kill himself

If any rate I'm quite ashamed that some people are taking the piss and laughing. Even if you don't agree with suicide or even think his reasons for killing himself are stupid, you can still feel sorry for his fiends, family and ex-girlfriend. I'm sure if one of your loved ones killed themselves, you wouldn't be laughing. Also chances are if you say you have hen you're either lying or no one close to you has ever killed themselves.

Seriously, try a little empathy before you post

 

[jboking]

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To sum up my entire my entire comment in one declarative sentence, I would have to say: Depression is a hell of a chemical imbalance.

(coming from someone who suffers from clinical depression)

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

We have the "yay - one less jerk on the planet" crowd.

and the... well, no, never mind. Not much sympathy here.

You can definitely tell those who have the physiological component accounted for. You can weed out those who have had friends kill themselves.

Otherwise it is feeling pretty cold in here. *smiles* That is anonymous for you.

Let's see, personal opinions.

My sympathies to the families and friends involved. I do not, however, have any compunction to will that young man back to life. One may speak optimistically of potential, and wasted talent, but his existence would have been plagued by emotional turmoil and sorrow. To wish him alive, is to wish him suffering, or the perpetual influence of medication cocktails necessary to make him a freakish smiling clone of what everyone would want to see.

To those that knew him: remember the good times you had with him. Cherish him in that way.

 

[Biosophilogical]

Ok, not meaning to sound uber-harsh, but people are F**K-tards. Well, at least the kind that kill themselves are ... and politicians ... and fundamentalists.

OT: But in all seriousness, I think the major issue with today's society is that people are allowed to think for thgemselves (it also happens to be the best thing as well). Because, you get people who ponder these deep-thinking things and mis-interpret them, and then BAM!!! they go and off themselves. But you also get people who think these deep-thinking things, and are better people because of it (i.e. if you think deep thoughts, then you sound like the better kind of person, I just really hope that your obvious mature and caring nature are genetic and that you have kids).

Oh, and kudos to you good sir, I hope you become a successful and kind counsellor, I truly do, the world needs more people like you.

 

[Sexy Street]

hahahahahahahaahhahahahaha.......oh thanks for the laugh, I was feeling so down I was about to kill myself. Gotta love people. Means more cake for me in the end.

You're an incredibly evil bastard. Just reinforcing what you already know.

And they kill themselves on a moment of passion. I bet he was drunk/high at the time.

honestly i didnt care either. oh no some stupid kid committed suicide move on and get over it IMO. you can say im a bit heartless but does it really matter to you if some stupid kid does this when there are children in africa who are starving? Spoiled children who end it like this just want attention and again sorry its a bit of a heartless post but thats how i feel about the subject.

Nice african dodge. I always works. How about having an alcoholic mom/ entire fucking family, and every day is just another struggle that you go through in school with people fucking with you every day. Then come back to me saying that suicide never should cross someones mind and that children in africa are worse off. They are, but still that situation isn't any less bad.

 

[Raven's Nest]

There's no good reason. He was either emotionally unstable (And I mean really unstable. Standard teenage emotional instability doesn't even come close.) or medically insane. Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

It's more comfortable for us to use those excuses, but that's all they are.

The truth of the matter is that either the guy had some sort of chemical deficiency (it's amazing how many times "depression" and "mental instability" really just come down to a lack of seratonin or some such) or a series of events which shaped his character to such a degree that he felt his life was without worth. In those cases, it's never just one thing. Maybe there was a history of abuse in his family? Just a guess.

I've heard our society today has something like the highest suicide rate in history among young people (can't remember where I heard that), so there might be societal contributors.

Not all depressions are caused by chemical imbalances. Things like existential depression [http://www.sengifted.org/articles_counseling/Webb_ExistentialDepressionInGiftedIndividuals.shtml] can cause often gifted children to commit suicide. Most people wouldn't understand it, but it usuay stems from the discovery of finally realising that there is no particular reason you are alive, any preconceptions of invulnerability are completely destroyed. The despair that a frustrated young genius might go through would feel ten times worse than normal. I know this because I am prone to bouts of existential depression and have often thought about suicide simply because it seems more interesting than living a life of debt, mediocre job, mediocre family and a generl mediocre existence. It kinda makes you think what's the point in even going through the motions... All your current problems, be it money or girlfriends or family tend to seem much worse than they are.

So in the case of this straight A boy, my guess is he was existentially depressed... Poor kid.

But unfortunately unless you've been in his situation you will never understand why he took his own life... But I can.

 

[FROGGEman2]

There's no good reason. He was either emotionally unstable (And I mean really unstable. Standard teenage emotional instability doesn't even come close.) or medically insane. Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

What? I was suicidal during my teens.

Some teens just get it real harsh. I did, I almost acted on it too.

So yeah, emotional instability.

 

[Chrissyluky]

hahahahahahahaahhahahahaha.......oh thanks for the laugh, I was feeling so down I was about to kill myself. Gotta love people. Means more cake for me in the end.

You're an incredibly evil bastard. Just reinforcing what you already know.

And they kill themselves on a moment of passion. I bet he was drunk/high at the time.

honestly i didnt care either. oh no some stupid kid committed suicide move on and get over it IMO. you can say im a bit heartless but does it really matter to you if some stupid kid does this when there are children in africa who are starving? Spoiled children who end it like this just want attention and again sorry its a bit of a heartless post but thats how i feel about the subject.

Nice african dodge. I always works. How about having an alcoholic mom/ entire fucking family, and every day is just another struggle that you go through in school with people fucking with you every day. Then come back to me saying that suicide never should cross someones mind and that children in africa are worse off. They are, but still that situation isn't any less bad.

many ways to get help. suicide hotline. counsolers(ones that care) friends. moving to a different school. all ways to get help without the im going to kill myself attention outburst. most children have access to these things and if they really wanted help they could get it. its always up to the child as to whether or not he/she is a victim if they really are having issues its nothing that couldnt be talked out with school staff or your parents. if your parents are abusive and mean i somehow doubt you would be very happy living with them. I also had a rough childhood but never did i even consider suicide. children in third world countries have NO access to such materials if they even have access to a warm bed to sleep in. i never said suicide shouldnt cross your mind but trying to carry it out is far different and if its constantly on your mind you need help.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

There's no good reason. He was either emotionally unstable (And I mean really unstable. Standard teenage emotional instability doesn't even come close.) or medically insane. Because there's absolutely no good reason to kill yourself. Period.

It's more comfortable for us to use those excuses, but that's all they are.

The truth of the matter is that either the guy had some sort of chemical deficiency (it's amazing how many times "depression" and "mental instability" really just come down to a lack of seratonin or some such) or a series of events which shaped his character to such a degree that he felt his life was without worth. In those cases, it's never just one thing. Maybe there was a history of abuse in his family? Just a guess.

I've heard our society today has something like the highest suicide rate in history among young people (can't remember where I heard that), so there might be societal contributors.

Not all depressions are caused by chemical imbalances. Things like existential depression [http://www.sengifted.org/articles_counseling/Webb_ExistentialDepressionInGiftedIndividuals.shtml] can cause often gifted children to commit suicide. Most people wouldn't understand it, but it usuay stems from the discovery of finally realising that there is no particular reason you are alive, any preconceptions of invulnerability are completely destroyed. The despair that a frustrated young genius might go through would feel ten times worse than normal. I know this because I am prone to bouts of existential depression and have often thought about suicide simply because it seems more interesting than living a life of debt, mediocre job, mediocre family and a generl mediocre existence. It kinda makes you think what's the point in even going through the motions... All your current problems, be it money or girlfriends or family tend to seem much worse than they are.

So in the case of this straight A boy, my guess is he was existentially depressed... Poor kid.

But unfortunately unless you've been in his situation you will never understand why he took his own life... But I can.

Ah, I see... So the implication is that you're a misunderstood genius?

We ALL have a moment where we realize our insignificance in relation to the world, society and our peers. We all feel the pressures to settle for a life of mediocrity, the cruel reality which states that for every one who reaches their star, a hundred more go bowling on Saturdays with the guys, settling for a fat wife and comfortable, boring job.

Some people can't handle that idea. Others man up and do something about it. Now, if somebody took their life for the reasons I mentioned, I understand and sympathize. If somebody took their life because they couldn't stand the idea of maybe not realizing their dreams or because they suddenly noticed they were small in relation to the world, then I understand but cannot respect them.

 

[IronicBeet]

As far as im concerned, we dont need people like that. They are unstable and obviously give into their emotions. My friend killed himself too jsyk. It saddened me too, but then I realised what kinda person he was and stopped caring. Get over it, people will die.

That's pretty fuckin' cold. You might have factored into his decision.

I know, isnt it great? I kinda dislike people so I'm amused when stuff like this happens.

I don't believe in Hell, but if there is one, you're going. I'm not going to insult you or tell you to fuck off, you're just a bad person. I'm surprised you have any friends at all.

 

[accountant]

He's an hero!

 

[accountant]

As far as im concerned, we dont need people like that. They are unstable and obviously give into their emotions. My friend killed himself too jsyk. It saddened me too, but then I realised what kinda person he was and stopped caring. Get over it, people will die.

That's pretty fuckin' cold. You might have factored into his decision.

I know, isnt it great? I kinda dislike people so I'm amused when stuff like this happens.

I don't believe in Hell, but if there is one, you're going. I'm not going to insult you or tell you to fuck off, you're just a bad person. I'm surprised you have any friends at all.

"I'm not going to insult you or tell you to fuck off, I'm just going to say, that you are evil and deserve to burn forever"
Whoa, you're not cold at all.
Rock on Lullabye!