I Dont Know: Anonymous are they they the Good guys????

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Therumancer

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Trezu said:
people praise them but others see them as enemy's they popped out of nowhere and just started taking over.

Do you think there intentions are good?
Are they Evil or Good?
Are there threats empty?


I think there the good guys there trying to do the right thing take down bad company's.
I think they can and will fight back.
The way they go about certain things can be troubling.
Anonymous is pretty much a random force of internet chaos, that is primarily interested in generating lulz. While it has been getting into activism of a sort recently, for years it pretty much existed to harass people and groups that it collectively decided it did not like.

The recent trends of "Hacktivism" are debatable and have lead to discussions about new anonymous vs. old anonymous.

If you can get past the humor, I think Encyclopedia Dramatica has what is shockingly one of the most complete run downs on Anonymous there is, not to mention coverage of a bunch of their raids and actions.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anonymous

Anonymous is by and large a group that will be acting for free information against goverments at one moment, and then harassing 12 year olds whom they find obnoxious the next. What your seeing right now is par for the course, but then again so is what they did with "Jessie Slaughter".

When you look at their overall body of work, it's easy to see why Anonymous generates such mixed opinions.

I personally agree with some things they have done, disagree with others, and there is also a bit of disgust thrown in there from time to time as well.

Right now I can say that I think Sony is deserving of their attention, on the other hand I felt their defense of "Wikileaks" was irresponsible and dangerous for a lot of reasons. As obnoxious as she might have been on a lot of levels, I think it was a bit much to single out Jessie Slaughter the way they did, and she's hardly their first victim. I mention her because she's *FAIRLY* recent even though ancient history by internet standards, and also easy enough to look up (there is a section on her on Encyclopedia Dramatica as well, covered in their typical fashion).


Anonymous is hardly new, it's just that a lot of their most recent activities have been both public, and on a large scale. It's also noteworthy when a group manages to tweak the noses of goverments and major corperations and get away with it.

I don't think Anonymous is the good guys really, even if they do some good things from time to time. As they themselves point out, they really aren't, they are pretty much a force of elemental chaos that is interested in "lulz" beyond all else. They themselves are quite up front in saying they aren't the good guys, and warning people not to make the mistake of seeing them as white knights.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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If I had to compare them to something, it would be One of Many. Let me explain
In Neverwinter Nights 2, Mask of the Betrayer, there are ?good? and ?evil? paths to take. The end of the first act dictates a general direction. You can have a Lawful Neutral Spirit rainbow bear God if you are good.

But what about evil players? Kill the bear god, and you can use his husk to form ?One of Many?

?One of Many is a gestalt entity, comprised of the souls of the hundreds of victims burned alive in the Furnace of the Temple of Myrkul. The Many are led by the One, who dominates the collective and directs its movement. At the moment, the Child is the One, so One of Many's personality is sneaky, underhanded, vicious and cruel.?
A thousand damned souls working together, for no real purpose other than destruction?
One of Many:
* likes wanton cruelty and destruction
* likes adding souls to the Many
* like over-the-top Saturday-morning-cartoon villainous posturing
* dislikes being thwarted
* dislikes helping others
* loves baiting Kaelyn the Dove

We've seen Evil characters before. Ammon Jerro, Bishop, perhaps even Qara and Neeshka at times. Though they were (borderline) Neutral and Chaotic Evil, they were always intelligible; Ammon Jerro was ruthless, Bishop was callous, Qara hot-tempered, Neeshka insecure. We could understand why they were that way, even if they were irritating as all hell.

But One of Many? Completely different. One of Many is proper Monstrous-Manual 'Always Neutral Evil'; it shows up on Detect Evils from miles away and has absolutely not one single redeeming trait in all its hundreds of souls. One of Many triumphs in random acts of inhumanity and, conversely, despises any form of kindness or compassion. Its one comprehensible emotion is probably selfishness.

Does this remind you of any group on the internet?


Source
http://lparchive.org/Neverwinter-Nights-2-Mask-of-the-Betrayer/Update%2043/

TL;DR version: They love cruelty and wonton destruction.
 

Xanadu84

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People are fundamentally decent, benevolent, self centered and lazy individuals. Yes. All of those. As such, they do good, and they do bad, according to a flawed moral compass generally pointing the right way, mixed with some poor execution, just like everyone else.
 

wolas3214

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Daystar Clarion said:
Cowards are what they are.

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Anonymous wouldn't do a damn thing if they had to show up to a protest something in person.
They actually do this an awful lot..

Myself being an oldfag but i digress.
 

Sniper Team 4

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wootsman said:
they have there own ethics just dont get in there way and you'll be fine
See, that's my problem with them. "Don't get in their way, and you'll be fine." If you do something they don't like, they will make your life a living hell. This ranges from big business companies all the way to young children. That sounds more a like a gang to me, "My way or the highway." Granted, they do some admirable stuff, but they sure aren't the saints other people make them out to be.
 
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CM156 said:
If I had to compare them to something, it would be One of Many. Let me explain
In Neverwinter Nights 2, Mask of the Betrayer, there are ?good? and ?evil? paths to take. The end of the first act dictates a general direction. You can have a Lawful Neutral Spirit rainbow bear God if you are good.

But what about evil players? Kill the bear god, and you can use his husk to form ?One of Many?

?One of Many is a gestalt entity, comprised of the souls of the hundreds of victims burned alive in the Furnace of the Temple of Myrkul. The Many are led by the One, who dominates the collective and directs its movement. At the moment, the Child is the One, so One of Many's personality is sneaky, underhanded, vicious and cruel.?
A thousand damned souls working together, for no real purpose other than destruction?
One of Many:
* likes wanton cruelty and destruction
* likes adding souls to the Many
* like over-the-top Saturday-morning-cartoon villainous posturing
* dislikes being thwarted
* dislikes helping others
* loves baiting Kaelyn the Dove

We've seen Evil characters before. Ammon Jerro, Bishop, perhaps even Qara and Neeshka at times. Though they were (borderline) Neutral and Chaotic Evil, they were always intelligible; Ammon Jerro was ruthless, Bishop was callous, Qara hot-tempered, Neeshka insecure. We could understand why they were that way, even if they were irritating as all hell.

But One of Many? Completely different. One of Many is proper Monstrous-Manual 'Always Neutral Evil'; it shows up on Detect Evils from miles away and has absolutely not one single redeeming trait in all its hundreds of souls. One of Many triumphs in random acts of inhumanity and, conversely, despises any form of kindness or compassion. Its one comprehensible emotion is probably selfishness.

Does this remind you of any group on the internet?


Source
http://lparchive.org/Neverwinter-Nights-2-Mask-of-the-Betrayer/Update%2043/

TL;DR version: They love cruelty and wonton destruction.
Reminds me of an episode of red dwarf.(You have to see the whole episode this is but a small part from which to reference)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwdxIUeMrSM
 

wolas3214

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Sniper Team 4 said:
wootsman said:
they have there own ethics just dont get in there way and you'll be fine
See, that's my problem with them. "Don't get in their way, and you'll be fine." If you do something they don't like, they will make your life a living hell. This ranges from big business companies all the way to young children. That sounds more a like a gang to me, "My way or the highway." Granted, they do some admirable stuff, but they sure aren't the saints other people make them out to be.
You'd have to do something very notable to get them to bring down the hammer. You forget were people, only more scummy lazy and horny than the average joe.
 

Crumpet Man

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The stand they make is often against abuse of liberties, but, while their goal is usually an honorable one, they go about it in illegal ways and, at least in my opinion, their messages always have an evil sounding tone to them.
 
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Evil, as such as the word can be applied here.

The core tenet of Anonymous is not 'do what is right' it's 'do what you think is right' and when abunch of internet pirates and trolls are the main governing body, there sense of what is right is a little off kilter when compared to the world at large.

Technically though the concepts of good and evil aren't applicable to them, but not in the good 'true neutral' way, more in the completely uncontrollable 'causes complete choas and anarchy rein' way.
 

Laser Priest

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I can't put this in black-and-white terms. I don't see them as good or evil. I see them as a bunch of pricks who hide being assholes and generally trolling the world behind some noble goals and some less than noble.

If we must put it in alignments, they're Chaotic Evil (Chaotic Neutral if we're being merciful).
 

zehydra

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Asking whether or not Anonymous is Good or Evil is like asking if People in general are good or evil.
 

jawakiller

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There are no "good guys."
Lord Sauron (LOTR)? He tried to bring freedom to the orcs.
Emperor Palpatine (SW)? The guy's trying to keep some semblance of order in the galaxy.
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I could go on.
 
Jan 29, 2009
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It's a million false senses of morality combined into one ball of internet idiocy.
They promote harsh justice and brutal retaliation. So, yeah. They're cold-war-era Americans.
 
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Anonymous are a bunch of gifted anarchists...often living within the luxury of the system they despise.

They're no more good/evil than anyone else, but they ARE organised. That means you should be wary.