I don't play on a PC so suck it!

[RhombusHatesYou]

Because my massive bloody awesome HD LED LCD TV is ridiculously better than any PC monitor ever

I've used a 62" 1080p plasma tv as a monitor before. Fun but the resolution was a bit weak

HDMI Cables help i hear.

HDMI cable won't let you set a 1080p TV for rez higher than 1920x1080 (unless it's one of those fucked up 16:10 ratio tvs, in which case it's 1920x1200).

that would be because the screen has run out of pixels, you probably know this. but seem to be blaming the cable for you're woes.

No, I just find 1920x1080 a bit of a weak resolution for a 62" screen.

 

[Macrobstar]

Fine if you're going into specifics then LBP is a shooter, horror, fps, rts, platformer, puzzler, racer

And? On a PC any Source engine game is all those and more.

And you can access any of those things to play with your friends at any time you want without having to download anything?

ya gotta download levels for LBP too, it just might be a little bit quicker.

also, in regards to the Red Dead (no PC port), that doesn't feel like a reason to play on the consoles, it much rather sounds like a reason to Boycott a double crossing dev until it learns it's lesson. (this is rockstar yes?)

No, theres no downloading levels in LBP, you press play, it loads like it would for a story level then you are playing, if that is downloading then its not just a little quicker its almost instantaneous

that sorta thing is a little harder to do when you're actually playing in a 3d environment with other people in multiple places. nonetheless, what if your internet drops to a crawl?

What if that happens in any online game? It'll lag, its made me lag on LBP when I'm playing with friends but on my own it doesn't really seem to have an effect, loading times may increase a little but its still quicker than downloading mods for the source engine, whcih I still find incredibly fun BTW, although I find games like garrys mod lack a purpose or point, I strayed off topic a bit there sorry

 

[Caliostro]

I don't play on a PC so suck it!

Uh?

To my mind that's like saying "I DON'T HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, SO SUCK IT!" congrats?

As for "What's the big deal". See everything that a console can do? PCs can do it, but better! Better controls, better graphics, mods, better everything essentially.

If you enjoy consoles though, then by all means. It's all about having fun.

 

[4li3n]

No, theres no downloading levels in LBP, you press play, it loads like it would for a story level then you are playing, if that is downloading then its not just a little quicker its almost instantaneous

See, this is why we're PC Elitists... because we look down on people that have no idea what they're talking about like you do here, and yet still say it with such conviction.

You're likely just downloading a file with parameters for the level, and because there are no mods for the game there's no new texture info or script so it takes a lot less to download the level.

Same thing happens for Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 2 maps that don't use any new assets (DotA does, so it takes longer, and it's a bigger file), they download pretty fast when you join a game on a map you don't have but the host does (and your connection is good).

Sure, not a lot of games actually have that functionality, but it's more game then one LBP... i guess they just rely on the fact that learning how to d/l new maps or apply mods isn't that hard (assuming mod support from the devs, some games make it way too complicated).

 

[Macrobstar]

I dont think anyone here has actually played LBP, you don't play them off of your PS3, they are published to LBP and you press play then 2-5 seconds later your playing, anyone who has played LBP will back me up

And? Steaming content is still downloaded.

Or, to put it another way, try it without an internet connection. Does it still work? No? Then downloading is occuring.

Yeh I know its still downloading but not in the traditional sense, you don't have to download it on to your PS3 then play it off your hard drive, and its not really streaming either because it doesn't randomly buffer mid level, but it still is downloading

 

[matell]

thread that could have bee solved with google-ing "differences between consoles and PC".
frankly it looks like flame-war bait, especially since it's been done in the past...many times; and the thread title is let's say, mildly offensive (like randomly telling guys on the street to "suck it"); why would people care at all what OP plays on?

 

[RadiusXd]

Fine if you're going into specifics then LBP is a shooter, horror, fps, rts, platformer, puzzler, racer

And? On a PC any Source engine game is all those and more.

And you can access any of those things to play with your friends at any time you want without having to download anything?

ya gotta download levels for LBP too, it just might be a little bit quicker.

also, in regards to the Red Dead (no PC port), that doesn't feel like a reason to play on the consoles, it much rather sounds like a reason to Boycott a double crossing dev until it learns it's lesson. (this is rockstar yes?)

No, theres no downloading levels in LBP, you press play, it loads like it would for a story level then you are playing, if that is downloading then its not just a little quicker its almost instantaneous

that sorta thing is a little harder to do when you're actually playing in a 3d environment with other people in multiple places. nonetheless, what if your internet drops to a crawl?

What if that happens in any online game? It'll lag, its made me lag on LBP when I'm playing with friends but on my own it doesn't really seem to have an effect, loading times may increase a little but its still quicker than downloading mods for the source engine, whcih I still find incredibly fun BTW, although I find games like garrys mod lack a purpose or point, I strayed off topic a bit there sorry

hmmm, i should have just posted again, instead of editing...
still, you can't compare LBP (well crafted it may be) to the entire universe of mod content for the PC platform, on which pretty much every half decently coded title is fair modding game.

 

[4li3n]

Because my massive bloody awesome HD LED LCD TV is ridiculously better than any PC monitor ever

I've used a 62" 1080p plasma tv as a monitor before. Fun but the resolution was a bit weak

HDMI Cables help i hear.

HDMI cable won't let you set a 1080p TV for rez higher than 1920x1080 (unless it's one of those fucked up 16:10 ratio tvs, in which case it's 1920x1200).

that would be because the screen has run out of pixels, you probably know this. but seem to be blaming the cable for you're woes.

No, I just find 1920x1080 a bit of a weak resolution for a 62" screen.

Oh right... but that's the tech's fault... my 19" plasma won't go over 1240x... while my old CRT was too small for 1600x and above desktop res(and it was 17-18"), and very few games resized the HUD well back then (man, has it been that long).

 

[Vrach]

ive have a bunch of friends who play PC and they think that consoles are worse and so im like screw that but i also see that there are alot of reviewers who also use pc and im just wonadering... whats so special about PC?

Keyboard, mouse, variety of programs and mods at your disposal, modifiable specs for games that generally tend to push the boundaries of what hardware can take instead of being made for a single hardware spec year to year.

 

[RadiusXd]

And to think, just earlier today, I thought the Escapist was the most mature gaming audience and far surpassed the immature idiocy of YouTube and Machinima.

oh, wait. (looks at self)
WHAT HAVE I BECOME!!?
this thread has transformed my internet manners in the direction of abominable somewhat.
i am sorry.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

(assuming mod support from the devs, some games make it way too complicated).

But even then 'way too complicated' isn't the same as 'impossible'. The obsessed yet skillful will always find a way... they're like software crackers in that way (and often use very similar methods when mod support in not only unsupported but a nightmare to untangle).

 

[Macrobstar]

No, theres no downloading levels in LBP, you press play, it loads like it would for a story level then you are playing, if that is downloading then its not just a little quicker its almost instantaneous

See, this is why we're PC Elitists... because we look down on people that have no idea what they're talking about like you do here, and yet still say it with such conviction.

You're likely just downloading a file with parameters for the level, and because there are no mods for the game there's no new texture info or script so it takes a lot less to download the level.

Same thing happens for Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 2 maps that don't use any new assets (DotA does, so it takes longer, and it's a bigger file), they download pretty fast when you join a game on a map you don't have but the host does (and your connection is good).

Sure, not a lot of games actually have that functionality, but it's more game then one LBP... i guess they just rely on the fact that learning how to d/l new maps or apply mods isn't that hard (assuming mod support from the devs, some games make it way too complicated).

Why? Why do you look down on me? because you know the definition of download? Wow big man you must be so much better than me having a powerful gaming machine, what I meant was its not downloading in the traditional sense, like you download the file frm a website and put it on your ps3 or download from the psn, it doesn't tell you that its downloading, and I do know what I'm talking about, you're the one who has most likely never even played LBP and is just guessing at what happens, and the worst part is you're acting all high and mighty while performing guess work, people in glass houses mate

 

[4li3n]

What if that happens in any online game? It'll lag, its made me lag on LBP when I'm playing with friends but on my own it doesn't really seem to have an effect, loading times may increase a little but its still quicker than downloading mods for the source engine, whcih I still find incredibly fun BTW, although I find games like garrys mod lack a purpose or point, I strayed off topic a bit there sorry

....

Yeh I know its still downloading but not in the traditional sense, you don't have to download it on to your PS3 then play it off your hard drive, and its not really streaming either because it doesn't randomly buffer mid level, but it still is downloading

The problem is that you don't seem to know that the reason why it's downloading so fast is because the file size is way smaller then anything for a Source engine mod.

frankly it looks like flame-war bait, especially since it's been done in the past...many times; and the thread title is let's say, mildly offensive (like randomly telling guys on the street to "suck it")

And the best counter is to actually have a calm discourse abou... well a non-screaming stupid insults at eachother one, this is the internets after allz.

 

[Macrobstar]

Fine if you're going into specifics then LBP is a shooter, horror, fps, rts, platformer, puzzler, racer

And? On a PC any Source engine game is all those and more.

And you can access any of those things to play with your friends at any time you want without having to download anything?

ya gotta download levels for LBP too, it just might be a little bit quicker.

also, in regards to the Red Dead (no PC port), that doesn't feel like a reason to play on the consoles, it much rather sounds like a reason to Boycott a double crossing dev until it learns it's lesson. (this is rockstar yes?)

No, theres no downloading levels in LBP, you press play, it loads like it would for a story level then you are playing, if that is downloading then its not just a little quicker its almost instantaneous

that sorta thing is a little harder to do when you're actually playing in a 3d environment with other people in multiple places. nonetheless, what if your internet drops to a crawl?

What if that happens in any online game? It'll lag, its made me lag on LBP when I'm playing with friends but on my own it doesn't really seem to have an effect, loading times may increase a little but its still quicker than downloading mods for the source engine, whcih I still find incredibly fun BTW, although I find games like garrys mod lack a purpose or point, I strayed off topic a bit there sorry

hmmm, i should have just posted again, instead of editing...
still, you can't compare LBP (well crafted it may be) to the entire universe of mod content for the PC platform, on which pretty much every half decently coded title is fair modding game.

See at least one person can discuss this without insulting me.
Yeh you're right in a way but the thing with games like LBP is that you can make whatever you want, when you mod say oblivion its always gonna play like oblivion, when you make a level in lbp you can make whatever you want, one guys is currently remaking the whole original zelda in LBP2, I played the first part, its pretty incredible

 

[Rellik San]

*sigh*

The old "You need a $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.99 PC to play games," argument again. PC costs; £700 lasts 5-7 years without having to replace parts unless they breakdown, (Say I have a ram leak) if I need more space to store stuff; £40 investment, 2 minutes work, I now have 5 Terrabytes of HDD space. Instead of paying £70+ for 250gig.

I'm also a graphic designer, so my rig needs a fairly powerful graphics card (work in resolutions approaching the 10,000x50,000 limit without one, I dare you) and it just so happens I like to game. What a happy coincidence this is, I can work and play on my same machine, which if used for either would cost the same anyway.


Then there is the "Yeah, but I don't like Keyboard and Mouse controls," That's coo' I bought a Game Pad for £20 just for TPS and even for FPS on my laptop when I need to wait for a client to show up at the pub.

"You need to upgrade it every year." No you don't, if you make the right investments and do a little research a solid PC... INCLUDING monitor, speakers and everything would set you back about £700 - £800... say the cost of a console and a new TV which most cycle out every decade or so anyway. In fact between the extra £10 - £20 on games and online service subscriptions, it actually works out in 7-8 years you spend more on a console then on a PC.

"It's hard to build your own..." No it isn't, everything is colour coded and labelled and if its not meant to go somewhere it won't fit in place, hell with most modern PC cases, they support tool free design.




Now I'm not gonna lie; Drivers can be a ***** to organise, but they are worth it. The only real reason to pick console gaming over PC is convenience. I'm not saying either are better, but come on console folks, at least educate yourselves before you start spouting off this nonsense.
Personally I own a PC and a Wii, as it allows the best variety of games to play for me.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Yeh I know its still downloading but not in the traditional sense, you don't have to download it on to your PS3 then play it off your hard drive, and its not really streaming either because it doesn't randomly buffer mid level, but it still is downloading

Yeah, it is streaming... data goes straight to your RAM without making any stops on storage. Only reason LBP levels don't buffer is because the streamed data is small enough to make it unnecessary.

 

[binvjoh]

On PC I feel I'm much more in control than I've ever been on a console. Not only because I prefer the controls but because I can manually re-adjust graphics, key mapping and there are usually plenty of mods that can help shape the experience just for my liking.

Also a lot of my favourite games are PC exclusive, or at least in my opinion superior on the platform.