As far as I can tell from a psychological standpoint women are attractive due to the mental conditioning of the bodyshapes appeal - those with the wider hips were prone to be better in child birth hence that figure was deemed attractive and I suppose as time passed and we got better at medicine things started to change to what culturally said; I'm good at making babies, e.g. Chanel figure, whilst lacking in the typical wide hips stated "I'm independant" and in the age where womens independace started to become more realised by culture it became more attractive as a woman could contribute more to the table than kids (Just being clear that I don't believe any of this about women just being for babies consciously). As for why larger boobs were more attractive, probably to do with the fact that it shows she has larger fat reserves genetically and hence back when starvation between migration was a problem, her bodys fatcount overall was higher genetically and hence could store more when there was food and had a better chance of survival. The same way a man being fat was considered attractive in the past, as they could afford enough to get fat in the first place. Nowadays all these attractions have changed and do change from generation to generation because of what they associate with being "fertile", but thats where I believe their roots are.
I don't understand what people find so attractive about women. What is it and why?
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You are asking the answer to a question, but then state you don't want what the answer is. Whats so attractive about another monkey to a monkey? What would a hideous alien find attractive about another of their species. Its not something objective that you can point out "Thats makes females attractive!". It is no one thing, or even a combination of things. Whether you like the answer or not it is because of a biological instinct mixed with environmental upbringing (social learning) that someone finds another physically attractive. This is simple, and this is true. There are certainly more underlying processes that go into this, pheromones, attractive behaviors, and so forth but it all boils down to an what was already mentioned.LilithSlave said:
Actually that response fully answers your question. No, there is no "thought process", it's an instinctual response evolved across generations.JonnyHG said:
Let me put it like this: among the first generation of proto-humans there were individuals that found nothing attractive about the other sex, they got on with their life and didn't procreate.
There were individuals that were attracted to certain parts of the opposite sex, like hair color, nose size and voice, those individuals did get to procreate, but since voice, hair color and nose size are not very valid survival and birthing characteristics, not that many of those individuals lived and so the genes weren't passed around much
And there were individuals that were attracted to stuff like sexual organs, physical fitness and everything else we're attracted to today, those individuals survived and birthed lots of offspring and as such those attractions are predominant.
That's basically evolution in a nutshell.
As for not dating fat people, that's not shallow, that's an instinctual response to find the most physically apt mate. Fat people are, in a purely biological light, inferior. Also take note that "intelligence" is a fancy new buzzword in evolutionary terms... we've just got it, and we don't even know what it's for.
I had to read 30 other posts before someone actually made the right point. You pretty much word for word wrote what I was going to had someone else not already.ColorfulObscurity said:
From a biological point its all about reproducing, 100years ago the weightier people wear thought to be attractive because it showed wealth and wealth meant protection for ones young.
As for random attractions like I myself like rock/metal music and would pick a black/purple haired goth girl over a blonde barbie doll any day, but those sort of attractions can only come for your up bringing and past experiences. When I was little the barbie look was liked to stupid and slow whited people, and the goth to (like me) shy miss understood people who found other people just annoying. I know myself that blondes aren't dumb people but from an attractive level (due to my upbringing) I still cant help find them unattractive.
This has almost certainly been said in 6 pages on this topic, but a couple of hundred thousand years of evolutionary programming will do that to you. And as I read your post, I see you say that this is not a sufficient answer, but frankly yes. Yes of course it is. Men have evolved to become aroused at the sight of a shapely woman and want to have sex with her. Over time, societal interpretations of beauty have swung in the favour of either fat or skinny women and back, but the features uniform to all women are still there, and that is what attracts us. If we were not attracted to these features the way we are, then the species would be in deep shit. These are the same reasons that women are attracted to the features in men that they are attracted to. They want to mate with the best male specimens possible, so that their children will have the best possible genes. And if you try to follow this up with a question on where gays, bisexuals etc. fit into this, the short answer is, I don't know. Someone else might be able to answer that, but my point is that yes, men are attracted to women because of biology and evolution.
Short answer, maybe already said, but i don't feel like piling thru six pages for it:
Maybe you're just closer to - not knowing your gender - the "man preferring" end of the kinsey spectrum than the "woman preferring" one. Not exclusively homosexual (if male)/heterosexual (if female), but don't find women AS attractive as men?
It's a falsehood to misunderstand finding "all" women attractive, though. People have preferences and find certain members of their preferred gender more or less attractive, or even downright repulsive, on both (all?) sides of the fence. But it takes a very particular member of the non-preferred gender to break down the otherwise very high wall of repulsion, and therein lies the more identifiable difference.
Maybe you're just closer to - not knowing your gender - the "man preferring" end of the kinsey spectrum than the "woman preferring" one. Not exclusively homosexual (if male)/heterosexual (if female), but don't find women AS attractive as men?
It's a falsehood to misunderstand finding "all" women attractive, though. People have preferences and find certain members of their preferred gender more or less attractive, or even downright repulsive, on both (all?) sides of the fence. But it takes a very particular member of the non-preferred gender to break down the otherwise very high wall of repulsion, and therein lies the more identifiable difference.
what you find attractive in men? I don't find anything attractive in them but in womans? yes. Its hard to understand what other one finds attractive and why everyone is a diffrent person who thinks diffrent compared to you so there really is not answer to this question.
Okay, lets be honest here...this may of been correct a few hundred years ago...but now? Come on, men will jump on anything which has big boob, a nice arse and who will give the best shag... :')Daystar Clarion said:
(Not for every man, but most xD )
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Its natural to desire an answer for something as curious and dumbfounding as this topic.
However its difficult. As you can expect you are in for a disappointment.
Best i can contribute is that we like everything. The shape of the body. The smile. The faces in general. The personalities which often(if not always) radically differ from our own. And on and on and on. Add to that our sex drives. You get the idea.
However its difficult. As you can expect you are in for a disappointment.
Best i can contribute is that we like everything. The shape of the body. The smile. The faces in general. The personalities which often(if not always) radically differ from our own. And on and on and on. Add to that our sex drives. You get the idea.
Actually it's a little more complicated than that. The male body has evolved with practical applications in mind. Hunting, fighting, etc.LilithSlave said:
The female body however, far more than the male one, has evolved to be ornamental. It has evolved as a sexual signalling device.
In turn, men are on average way more visually-oriented when it comes to attraction to women than the other way around.
And this is why women are seen as 'universally beautiful' and why there is such a focus on the female body in society.
Those boobs and arse are exactly the kind of signals we link (unconsciously) with 'best offspring'.arc1991 said:
Just like how feeling of pain is a warning for us to not do things that are unhealthy, feelings of joy, pleasure, attraction, etc are just subtle ways by nature to make us do the things it wants us to do. The reason you like bib boobs and nice arse is because nature wants you to create the best offspring.
Pheromones are a wonderful thing when it comes to close quarter contact. That and well, men are typically programmed, to some extent, to like women. It varies, some care about facial shape, others the chest, the form, or the ass. Aesthetics isn't something that is a solid universal, is to a degree but a lot of variation.
okay this gonna sound like the typical answer but stick with me.LilithSlave said:
Men find certain characteristics about a woman attractive because of natural instinct Women with large mammary glans (big breasts)and round hips attractive for fertility purposes. The vagina is another reproductive thing, the tighter meant the more healthy and youthful the women in question.
Since then man has been hardwired like this. As far as fat in the chest = good fat in the stomach = bad, well that is a result of culture and media. Nearly 250 years ago, fat people were considered attractive, cause usually it meant you were wealthy, no it means your unhealthy.
Which sucks cause there are people who can't help being larger then the "norm" perpetuated by the media.
Think of it like this, why do women like taller men, with broad shoulders, darker skin, and strong jaws. Because it is hardwired in women to look for someone that can protect them from predators and other men.
yes part of the answer is the typical it's natural, but part of it is also the media's fault as well.
As far as this being a stupid question, yes it is. but meh, it's not the dumbest I've seen on the escapist so don't worry to much about that. Now I need to go put ice on my cheeks I think I'm redder then a strawberry after typing tight vagina.
I don't go around looking for opportunities to be an asshole, but your thread is kind of stupid. "It's just programming" perfectly answers your question. There's no thought process involved; at best you'd get a post-hoc rationalization. Finding women attractive is good for your ability to reproduce, so you get lots of people who feel that way about it. There's absolutely no reason to further complicate it.LilithSlave said:
IF you want a different answer, ask a different question.