I don't understand; why so much man-hate?

[likalaruku]

Breats are not, and never were, sex organs. They have been idolized by western cultures as sex-related organs for reasons unknown. Breasts are there to feed children, thats it.

That's the answer right there ;-) And not just in Westren culture, almost all around the globe there are examples of that. For example these little dolls:

As you can see, big boobies, a fine piece of ass *cough*. It's pretty easy to figure out way, you say it yourself: they're feeding baby's, or in short: it's about fertility. Women have been worshipped for that for millenia, although not always so....obvious. Stone-age man was honest, as you can see ;-)

Hey! Where's you get these pics of my nekkid Gra'ma?!

 

[slxiii]

So..... is the breast-war going to start all over again?

Sigh, I made this thread about men. Not tits.

Wow. Amazing. We found a link to these two subjects already!

I think I had one moment of connection with my girl friend while playing L4D. She was playing as Zoey, and I was playing as Bill. She gets tackled by a hunter, and I ran over to help her out, and then get attacked by about 3 zombies. We were playing on Expert, and I didn't want Jessie to be dead so soon, so I ran, ignoring the zombies that were quickly eating away at my health bar, and knocked the hunter off of her, delivering a head shot to her attacker. She gets up, having taken no damage what so ever for some reason, and lets loose a burst to my attackers. She hadn't used her health pack yet, so I was about to ask her for one, and before I could say anything, she was all ready in the safe room and had alerted the horde.
I've never laughed as hard since then.

lol
what a coincidence
i play L4D with my girlfriend Jessica as well

 

[Marv21]

As a guy, I find that the man that isn't truly sexist to be dieing breed.

If you feel I am wrong I am wrong, I can only observe.

I think of it, I do not get rewarded by the opposite sex by being a nice guy who almost entirely is devoid of said breast oggling...I mean I do it! Who that is a man doesn't do it! I at least try to do it at times she wouldn't notice, or care anyway, to be polite.

The 1 in 3 women getting raped thing, doesn't seem very accurate.

I do hate women that whine about there boyfriend cheating on them, truly this could happen for many reasons.
1. Hes a douchebag...all women I have seen that are pretty and kind they date the guys who like the male powertrip=ruling your woman. You put yourself in this position by find the pack bull and promising him sex in his eyes, though to you it might be just a meaningful relationship. Those bulls hate to not get what they want.

2. Maybe you just need to identify with him, get into what hes doing. Be a person to him and not just an object...also do this so you can keep an eye on him.

3. Your just too different than him, not all girl have alot in common with guys...this is the reason I broke up with my g/f because we had nothing in common but life theatre, also she was immature.

4. Fatal Flaw- One thing that drives your b/f crazy, My case, a maturity level...nuff said

Sry I got off topic I just figured I though you girls deserve the chance that those trophy g/f as school don't get.

 

[Abedeus]

Oggling breasts is being disrespectful?

Do you feel shame whenever you turn your head to check out an attractive male?

It's not disrespectful when you look at his figure, head or something like that.

Looking at sex organs is disrespectful. Same as staring at someone's ass.

Also, it wasn't just gazing at breasts. I think if he could, he would move 15 cm to them and drool all over. Sorry for the mental picture, but that just aggrovates me that much.

You can't really blame a guy for checking her out if she's at all attractive. Any man with a healthy libido is going to be guilty of that many, many times.

Checking out a girl is not illegal or disrespectful. It's a natural urge.

But doing it every time she doesn't see you, for 10 seconds is a form of abuse.

 

[Zersy]

Questions




Why are so many women so quick to jump on the sexism-wagon?

And men, do you ever really get appreciated by women for being nice?

1. because when a group supports any type of indivdual and saying things like "You are better"
its human nature to listen to a group wich you feel positive about..

2. nope we don't and thats why we try our hardest to make you girls happy because we appriciate you , so next time your man says "hey" just say something that he is gonna like to hear e.g. wanna play CO-OP together or want a blowjob ?

joke on the last suggestion lol

 

[Meta Like That]

A woman making absolute sense?? This is inexcusable!! Quick, somebody quote Rush Limbaugh!
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I'm never "appreciated" for being nice, but they do say thanks and such. All in a day's work of being a somewhat decent human being, I guess.

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

I don't know why there is all the hate on males. Some guys are assholes, that much is true, but we all seem to get pasted with the same brush.
When meeting a female, I will admit that my eyes drop to the breasts for a second most of the time, but I normally have sunglasses on. (Not so much meeting, but as they go past) I don't know why it happens, it just does.
I also seem to be un-able to focus on faces for long periods of time. [My eye's just blur and cross over and I can't focus any more.]
I hold doors open for females, I'm always polite.
For me, Personality>>>>Looks>>>Breasts>>Ass. [To put it crudely, and I don't like putting it that crudely].
Looks and such are always going to be the first conditions that a female is rated by, simply because we have at that point nothing else to go on. As the blanks are filled, then the ranking is apt to change.
Where am I trying to go with this? No idea, probably not the best place to be lost, as I'm likely to be ripped apart for this, but meh.

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

and would never even want it.

Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."

Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.

But we do.
Even us males hate males.
*Sigh*

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

In RL when I'm talking with a girl I keep eye-contact at ALL times . not the creepy staring thing just eye-contact. It gives them the the feeling that I'm interested in what they have to say. Works very well!

I can't do it. It's too intense. I usually end up looking at a person's mouth as they're talking to me, occasionally glancing up at their eyes. Whether they're a man or a woman.

Yeah, I un-focus and do this, my eye's just blur and slide down to the mouth, and there ain't nothing I can do about it. It's like being totally wasted.

 

[Meta Like That]

Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.

But we do.
Even us males hate males.
*Sigh*

QFT. Guilty until proven innocent. Except for some christian dudes I know. They're made of philanthropic jello, or something.

 

[Legion]

*snip*

Questions
What is the most sexist thing you ever heard?

As a woman, what do you love about any man in particular in your life?

Why are so many women so quick to jump on the sexism-wagon?

And men, do you ever really get appreciated by women for being nice?

A very nice post and I am sure most of the men on The Escapist appreciate it.

To answer the questions:

Well to be fair I need to give an example from both genders (ignoring ones made in jest).

From a guy: The one you said, about a guy having to earn more. - I can see how it is sexist but I do see the logic in a guy not wanting to be leeching off of his partner.

From a girl: "Guys should always make the first move". - This one bugs me, I think both genders should make the move when they are ready.

Women were oppressed for a very long time, in modern society we are supposed to be past that so if a woman is made to feel inferior then she will react strongly? That's my guess. Also some people just love making excuses (men and women).

Also a lot of guys are sexist so some women have a right to do so. The difference unfortunately being that a guy generally speaking cannot accuse a woman of being sexist as all other women in the vicinity will back her up even if she is (this is from experience).

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

and would never even want it.

Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."

Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.

I don't hate all men, or even close to all men. Just the ones who rape and stuff like that.

And I'm sure he's completely happy with you the way you are. (Not sarcasm)

But I'm also sure that he wouldn't say no if a magical spell that increased breast size happened to find it's way to you. (If he truly does like big gazongas like you say he does.)

And there's nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean he's any more or less happy. Let's just be honest here. And that goes for ANY situation, ANY person, and ANY thing.

This.

*snip*

Questions
What is the most sexist thing you ever heard?

As a woman, what do you love about any man in particular in your life?

Why are so many women so quick to jump on the sexism-wagon?

And men, do you ever really get appreciated by women for being nice?

A very nice post and I am sure most of the men on The Escapist appreciate it.

To answer the questions:

1) Well to be fair I need to give an example from both genders (ignoring ones made in jest).

From a guy: The one you said, about a guy having to earn more. - I can see how it is sexist but I do see the logic in a guy not wanting to be leeching off of his partner.

From a girl: "Guys should always make the first move". - This one bugs me, I think both genders should make the move when they are ready.

2) Women were oppressed for a very long time, in modern society we are supposed to be past that so if a woman is made to feel inferior then she will react strongly? That's my guess. Also some people just love making excuses (men and women).

3) Not really. If I act nice I am seen as a friend rather than a potential lover, even when they know how I felt.

Not all guys are going to make the first move, some of us are either incredibly shy or just can't tell what females are thinking.
I think even when I'm an old man on my death bed(after hopefully a long life with my partner [whom I'm yet to find ]), I don't think I will fully understand females.

I've encountered this with my friends, they say one thing, mean another and want you do something completly un-related, and they expect you to understand this instantly.
*Sigh*.

 

[Legion]

Not all guys are going to make the first move, some of us are either incredibly shy or just can't tell what females are thinking.
I think even when I'm an old man on my death bed(after hopefully a long life with my partner [whom I'm yet to find ]), I don't think I will fully understand females.

I've encountered this with my friends, they say one thing, mean another and want you do something completly un-related, and they expect you to understand this instantly.
*Sigh*.

I know what you mean, Christ, just thinking of some of the situations I had back in school...

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

Not all guys are going to make the first move, some of us are either incredibly shy or just can't tell what females are thinking.
I think even when I'm an old man on my death bed(after hopefully a long life with my partner [whom I'm yet to find ]), I don't think I will fully understand females.

I've encountered this with my friends, they say one thing, mean another and want you do something completly un-related, and they expect you to understand this instantly.
*Sigh*.

I know what you mean, Christ, just thinking of some of the situations I had back in school...

I think it's fair to say that not all women say one thing and mean another, some appreciate that guys are not innately psychic... wait... I can't think of any I know to back that point up... :S

Well of 'course there are going to be exceptions, and in this case I thank god there is.

You know, with every message-board comes the inevitable gender war/sexist thread stating how men are evil because of how women are portrayed in games.

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Questions
1)What is the most sexist thing you ever heard?

2)As a woman, what do you love about any man in particular in your life?

3)Why are so many women so quick to jump on the sexism-wagon?

4)And men, do you ever really get appreciated by women for being nice?

1)The most sexist? Wouldn't have a clue.

2) N/A

3) I don't like using this comparison, but I will: Why do African-americans jump so readily onto the racist band-wagon. [Just look at Capcom's Re:5 and the huge spark this created].

4) I still have a long life ahead of me, but I doubt I ever will be appreciated by women for being nice. Niceties seem to be a sign of weakness in this day and age.

Off-topic while being on-topic: Nice Topic^^

 

[Meta Like That]

3) I don't like using this comparison, but I will: Why do African-americans jump so readily onto the racist band-wagon. [Just look at Capcom's Re:5 and the huge spark this created].

#1: Careful with your wording, man. Just saying "why do?" and leavin' it at that will inevitably get you scheisse-stormed.
#2: If you did your research, you would've found that most of those causing the uproar were doing it mainly out of ignorance. They weren't completely unjustified in their reaction though.

4) I still have a long life ahead of me, but I doubt I ever will be appreciated by women for being nice. Niceties seem to be a sign of weakness in this day and age.

It's not a weakness being considerate, but the point is that it only goes so far if you're looking to find your "mate". Women aren't just gonna plop into your lap for it, unless you're lucky... or Brad Pitt.

 

[freakyHippo]

1)What is the most sexist thing you ever heard?

To a Woman: "Womens shouldn't be allowed to play poker because their brains aren't developed enough to understand the maths behind the game" - actually heard this at a casino in Leeds from a fairly young guy (below 40) as well. My jaw hit the fucking floor. He then proceeded to say he was a proud member of the BNP. Turns out sexist bigots are still out there.

To a Man: I just saw an advert on the telly where the Tag line was "So easy even a man could do it". The product was Oven Pride oven cleaner. Needless to say i won't be buying any of that.

2)As a woman, what do you love about any man in particular in your life?

Ask me on the weekend

3)Why are so many women so quick to jump on the sexism-wagon?

In my own experiance i find more men jumping on the sexist bandwagon in a desperate attempt not to appear sexist themselves. Woman usually only cry sexism where true sexism has taken place in my experiance.

4)And men, do you ever really get appreciated by women for being nice?

Yes. For my friends birthday we decided to do something special because her boyfriend was stuck out of the country on business and had been for 3 months. I baked her a pirate ship cake (it was a pirate themed night out) and she was really appreciative. She appreciated all the effort everyone had gone to to make her birthday extra special. Got many a free drink that night.

 

[cyber_andyy]

One thing I hate is how Alot of Women/girls think that men are ALWAYS lusting for sex or to get off with them. One question I would like to put forward to girls is this: Why would you (if you do) think that men are always after sex/lustful/sex obsessed/crude.

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Also, no , I hardly ever get appreciated. Not to blow my own trumpet but im incredibly caring to my mates and others, I'll hand out advice , let them borrow money, and just listen to them. And guess what it gets me? People who just ditch me like that for no reason what so ever, and then try to take advantage of my nature, then play the sexist card when I do anything vagley male, or hetrosexual.

It seems that being gay, is in fact, the better route. (I'm not before you ask, but I thought it was a nice rant round up.
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[DreadfulSorry]

The most sexist thing I've ever seen? When femi-nazi Mary Daly came to do a guest lecture at my college, she claimed that all men are necrophiliacs and "all they want to do is kill, kill, kill!" She actually said this, although the woman is approaching 90 years old so we gave her at least some leeway. But still...
I'm a woman, and I consider myself to be a feminist, but it's people like this that do way more harm than good to the cause and image of feminism. (Most) feminists do not hate men, but are simply fighting for equality of the sexes, or at least the ability to be treated with equal respect no matter what you choose to do with your life.