I Dont't Know: Bah Bah Black Sheep.....Yep im a Racist.....Somehow?

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mr_rubino

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Flames66 said:
mr_rubino said:
I just know if I Google this, I'm going to get a circle-jerk at best, so do you have any articles or anything like that you got the Humpty Dumpty thing from?
Again, this sounds like "One nursery school in West East Cheshireford, New South Nothing changed the rhyme around as a teaching tool for a larf one day" becoming "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS CENSORSHIP RUNNING THE WORLD ASTRIDE!!!"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4782856.stm

There is the original event from several years ago. It now seems to have been widely adopted in this country with children I have worked with from different schools all over the city looking very confused when a black sheep is sung about and saying that they were taught about a sheep with the full visible light spectrum.

There are reports that the words were changed in the Oxfordshire nurseries in order to increase the children's vocabularies and I don't claim to know the original reasons behind it.
So it was, in fact, "changed for a larf" as I said and not for political correctness reasons by those infernal minorities who we keep being informed are very sensitive to such things?
But what about Mr. Dumpty?

Trezu said:
DRobert said:
You are plainly making things up. The lyrics have not be changed.

And how would they be changed? Is there a "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Act 2011 (Cth)" out there? The "Political Correctness Regulations 2011 (Cth)" introduced by the honourable Peter Garrett mp? Is there now a part of the school curriculum that states how nursery rhymes are to be sung? As for people being sued for it, I say name them.

Seriously, all legislation, case law, and school curriculums are available on the internet these days. Go search for the evidence that proves that you are neither a troll nor a deluded individual sparring a strawman.

This is a challenge to everybody. Find a primary source backing up this claim (news websites don't count, I want a piece of legislation, regulation, case, school curriculum, something like that). Until such evidence has been found, please be quiet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loony_left

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/racist-baa-baa-black-sheep-put-out-to-pasture/story-e6frfku0-1226012652386

i told u i wasnt making things up

it was a huge thing people actually still believe that u have to say rainbow sheep

i dont make stuff up. I highly doubt i cud find a Document regarding this i did find a newspaper article

but they all seem to dance around the point

some places you CAN say black sheep others you can'y simple as that
Sweet Jesus man, read what you post.
 

FarleShadow

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The problem isn't Political Correctness, the problem is people.

People taking things too far, people getting offended for other people, people so intolerant of other peoples views that get so outraged that they start screaming.

And the fact that its become acceptable to group-bully people with viewpoints that the majority disagree with. But the problem is still people.
 

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Trezu said:
Magenera said:
What the hell does bah bah black sheep has to do with racism?
people use to consider it Racist to say 'Black Sheep'

Its Rainbow Sheep now
I heard another iteration, of the same rhyme, that goes "bah bah wooly sheep". I had to bite my tongue, as I almost felt obliged to point out the inherent pointlessness in asking a wooly[i/] sheep if it had any wool.
 

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gamezombieghgh said:
Blitzwing said:
gamezombieghgh said:
I just happen to have written a speech about it last year:

Political correctness is going too far
[words]
Just my thoughts
Are you actually being serous with all that garage?
Well it's debating I have to pick a side, and I think you mean garbage, it has a b in it. A garage is a storage place in peoples homes where cars and tools are usually stored.
Glad to help! :)
You have a very laid-back teacher, I'd wager? Is this an elective course?
 

A Pious Cultist

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Jesus, can't I sing a song about a brown sheep without the anti-political correctness bricade dictating what I can and cannot say?!!!

^ Do you see what I did there, that's basically what everyone who bitches about political correctness is doing.
 

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Anyone who complains about the use of 'black sheep' is just being gay :D

I'm with Stewart Lee who says 'PC is just "institutionalised politeness", a way to push people into not just using offensive language to put down minorities' and I agree with that. IF one day a newspaper actually prints a factual story about Christmas being cancelled, or someone not allowed to wear cordorouy trousers in case it offends a Sikh, or some other nonsense, then I'll shift from my opinions, a little bit.

IT is my opinion however, that the reason the newspapers are so intensely anti PC, is that once they've convinced their 'readership' that PC is bad, they can then carry on blaming all the world's ills on muslims, foreigners, gays, the disabled, and blacks, and then call their offensive headlines and articles 'plain speaking', instead of the more PC term that I'd use, 'racist, sexist, homophobic bullshit'. ( I do of course take on board that cows also are equally capable of producing waste products.)

Did you know for example, that EVERY JOB in Britain in the last 2 years was taken by a dirty foreigner coming over here? I'm particularly impressed by the way they steal our jobs and be lazy benefit claimants at the same time :)

Marcus Brigstocke made the point that if someone can fall off the back of a lorry, speak no english, and yet on his first day in the country, take your job, maybe you're not trying hard enough :)
 

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Trezu said:
Today i was watching the news [which is rare] anyway there was this report on this portrait of Matt Moran.

The Picture
://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201104/r748247_6181763.jpg

anyway at the end of the Report on Television the news reader had to say 'This wasnt made to offend Vegetarians' that was the gist of it, ive been looking for the report for a while. ANYWAY i really hate that, i understand that they have to clarify but they shouldn't have too. Is everyone so paranoid that if we all have to say nothing mean about a Minority otherwise get sued By the Political Correctness people.

Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.


[Just to clarify im not trying to be offensive or rude. Its just a Observation.]

The Goody two shoes just need to bloody get over them selves.

What are your thoughts on Political Correct people?\
do you think they go to Far?

I reckon people are way to concreted about Political Correctness. I dont Mind the guys/gals its just they can go to far.

Here is Visual Aids
i agree somewhat with this guy not fully but bits i agree with
I think that, while political correctness might have noble intentions (ie, get everyone together in one caring community of tolerance), it serves to do the complete opposite, as it exasperates the differences between us and drives us farther apart.

There's some good intent on trying to be socially conscious of other people's needs and wants and to know that they might be different than yours and trying not to offend them, but it goes too far sometimes.

Sometimes you just gotta grow a bit of thicker skin and let people have the courtesy of messing up, and then hope that when you mess up other people have the decency to look the other way, rather than trying to remember "These people are the X people, I gotta act Y, cause they're different and alien to me.".

If I was a vegetarian, I would try to not to be offended by the above image, because when I ate my soy substitute burger, I wouldn't want meat eating individuals to be offended by me. And just going around in a never ending series of apologies and pussyfooting around the subject's just gonna make meat eating individuals secretly resent me for making them feel ashamed that I'm different.
 

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gamezombieghgh said:
mr_rubino said:
gamezombieghgh said:
Blitzwing said:
gamezombieghgh said:
I just happen to have written a speech about it last year:

Political correctness is going too far
[words]
Just my thoughts
Are you actually being serous with all that garage?
Well it's debating I have to pick a side, and I think you mean garbage, it has a b in it. A garage is a storage place in peoples homes where cars and tools are usually stored.
Glad to help! :)
You have a very laid-back teacher, I'd wager? Is this an elective course?
It's B English, what makes you say that?
No doubt because you forgot to mention six or seven different historical philosophers, along with seven or eight different economists followed by a final paragraph that nobody understands but pretends is Diamond-quality stuff.

Essentially, if you haven't take class 'Pretending to be smart by reading other people's thoughts 101', you aren't worthy of making a comment on anything.
 

mr_rubino

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gamezombieghgh said:
mr_rubino said:
gamezombieghgh said:
Blitzwing said:
gamezombieghgh said:
I just happen to have written a speech about it last year:

Political correctness is going too far
[words]
Just my thoughts
Are you actually being serous with all that garage?
Well it's debating I have to pick a side, and I think you mean garbage, it has a b in it. A garage is a storage place in peoples homes where cars and tools are usually stored.
Glad to help! :)
You have a very laid-back teacher, I'd wager? Is this an elective course?
It's B English, what makes you say that?
Oh. Then what grade did you get? Because that was Fallacypalooza '11.
You crammed as many anecdotes into your speech as you possibly could with as few actual sources as you were able to, stating them all as facts while still being as vague as possible as to where all these intrusions were happening. You exaggerated everything you could. You didn't go into any actual detail about any of your examples.

FarleShadow said:
gamezombieghgh said:
mr_rubino said:
gamezombieghgh said:
Blitzwing said:
gamezombieghgh said:
I just happen to have written a speech about it last year:

Political correctness is going too far
[words]
Just my thoughts
Are you actually being serous with all that garage?
Well it's debating I have to pick a side, and I think you mean garbage, it has a b in it. A garage is a storage place in peoples homes where cars and tools are usually stored.
Glad to help! :)
You have a very laid-back teacher, I'd wager? Is this an elective course?
It's B English, what makes you say that?
No doubt because you forgot to mention six or seven different historical philosophers, along with seven or eight different economists followed by a final paragraph that nobody understands but pretends is Diamond-quality stuff.

Essentially, if you haven't take class 'Pretending to be smart by reading other people's thoughts 101', you aren't worthy of making a comment on anything.
You probably shouldn't be listening to this guy. He'll get you an F and convince you it's a PC conspiracy. You know all that "fact" and "source" and "proving that any of this stuff really happened" stuff I mentioned? I would gather he's no fan of it. (EDIT: In fact, he seems to be offended by the idea of making concrete statements and identifying where they came from at all. Look at him turn up his nose at the idea of quoting philosophers in a bloody speech about sociology.)
 

FarleShadow

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mr_rubino said:
You probably shouldn't be listening to this guy. He'll get you an F and convince you it's a PC conspiracy. You know all that "fact" and "source" and "proving that any of this stuff really happened" stuff I mentioned? I would gather he's no fan of it. (EDIT: In fact, he seems to be offended by the idea of making concrete statements and identifying where they came from at all. Look at him turn up his nose at the idea of quoting philosophers in a bloody speech about sociology.)
My problem is not with arguments that say 'Study X shows that Response Y is effective against problem Z', my problem lies with the people who argue that if you haven't read Sociology book X, then you aren't worthy of commenting on any issue in that field.

Essentially, I hate the elitism that some pretend sociologist take away from the study of sociology. Which is apparently more widespread than I'd previously considered.
 

mr_rubino

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FarleShadow said:
mr_rubino said:
You probably shouldn't be listening to this guy. He'll get you an F and convince you it's a PC conspiracy. You know all that "fact" and "source" and "proving that any of this stuff really happened" stuff I mentioned? I would gather he's no fan of it. (EDIT: In fact, he seems to be offended by the idea of making concrete statements and identifying where they came from at all. Look at him turn up his nose at the idea of quoting philosophers in a bloody speech about sociology.)
My problem is not with arguments that say 'Study X shows that Response Y is effective against problem Z', my problem lies with the people who argue that if you haven't read Sociology book X, then you aren't worthy of commenting on any issue in that field.

Essentially, I hate the elitism that some pretend sociologist take away from the study of sociology. Which is apparently more widespread than I'd previously considered.
*facepalm* What are you talking about, and what does this have to do with rainbow sheeps and PC run amok?
And now I really need clarification: Are you for or against sourcing anecdotes when using them in a class assignment?

gamezombieghgh said:
mr_rubino said:
gamezombieghgh said:
mr_rubino said:
gamezombieghgh said:
Blitzwing said:
gamezombieghgh said:
I just happen to have written a speech about it last year:

Political correctness is going too far
[words]
Just my thoughts
Are you actually being serous with all that garage?
Well it's debating I have to pick a side, and I think you mean garbage, it has a b in it. A garage is a storage place in peoples homes where cars and tools are usually stored.
Glad to help! :)
You have a very laid-back teacher, I'd wager? Is this an elective course?
It's B English, what makes you say that?
Oh. Then what grade did you get? Because that was Fallacypalooza '11.
You crammed as many anecdotes into your speech as you possibly could with as few actual sources as you were able to, stating them all as facts while still being as vague as possible as to where all these intrusions were happening. You exaggerated everything you could. You didn't go into any actual detail about any of your examples.
I got merit. But now, I feel... Dam, it's just your opinion means so much to me because you're an English teacher, and... Dam

Bite me
Just trying to point out that line of reasoning doesn't work in an assignment you might get a grade for, as most teachers prefer a few well-researched arguments over throwing out as many shallow points as possible. But I notice this a lot with those who identify themselves as anti-PC: Only what they think matters. Everyone else is just trying to silence them. The world encourages this. The Escapist certainly does.