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A Weary Exile

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Feeding kids is a "Basic fundemental" of schools? I almost never ate at school and did perfectly fine.

I'm more concerned with inept or unmotivated teachers and idiotic spending ruining the education system.
 

Jakub324

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My school (I live in the UK) is making people scan their fingers to pay for food in a COMPLETE dick move. I'm just glad I got into 6th form in time, because now I can hop off to Tesco if I get hungry. :)
 

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bdcjacko said:
PneumaticSuicide said:
The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!
See...maybe you should reword things so it doesn't sound like an attack. This superintendent is only in charge of one school district, not all school districts. So saying you feel bad for American students. So you should really say you feel sorry for these students because of this case. And this is one example and not necessarily indicative of the entire school system across all of America. This one case proves only that school district in question has problems and highlights possible problems that could be nation wide.

Also, I do believe you that you weren't trying to attack, merely showing your out rage and sympathy for the students you saw. But there will be others that will use this as another launch point for an verbal attack on America.

Also lastly, I agree there are problems with the American education system but it isn't the food...well not just the food, sometimes the food was good and healthy. But the problem is underfunding and won't be solved with tv chefs coming in and making a salad.



Thankyou for giving me a little more insight into the subject, i understand that a TV chef such as Jamie Oliver can't fix everything. Our Schools (public) aren't great either but i was hoping for a much more mature response and that is why i mentioned it wasn't an attack. Perhaps i could of constructed my wording in a less offensive manner, nevertheless i do believe that all education systems can learn from each other rather than aggresively blocking them out.
 

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Fleeker said:
Your an idiot.
Not to be mean..but when you call someone else an idiot..At least make sure you use grammar correctly. You're instead of your.

More OT: Our schools suck? Yeah, but so do all the rest in other countries. I don't think there's any school system that couldn't be massively improved.
 

PneumaticSuicide

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Mallefunction said:
You think that's bad? Teachers NEVER get fired here even if they are friggin sex offenders!

Guess what! We have the same problem here (Australia)!!!!11 we have sickos that pull their wiener out in front of young children and get let off but if you don't pay a parking fine then jail awaits you....
 

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PneumaticSuicide said:
bdcjacko said:
PneumaticSuicide said:
The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!
See...maybe you should reword things so it doesn't sound like an attack. This superintendent is only in charge of one school district, not all school districts. So saying you feel bad for American students. So you should really say you feel sorry for these students because of this case. And this is one example and not necessarily indicative of the entire school system across all of America. This one case proves only that school district in question has problems and highlights possible problems that could be nation wide.

Also, I do believe you that you weren't trying to attack, merely showing your out rage and sympathy for the students you saw. But there will be others that will use this as another launch point for an verbal attack on America.

Also lastly, I agree there are problems with the American education system but it isn't the food...well not just the food, sometimes the food was good and healthy. But the problem is underfunding and won't be solved with tv chefs coming in and making a salad.



Thankyou for giving me a little more insight into the subject, i understand that a TV chef such as Jamie Oliver can't fix everything. Our Schools (public) aren't great either but i was hoping for a much more mature response and that is why i mentioned it wasn't an attack. Perhaps i could of constructed my wording in a less offensive manner, nevertheless i do believe that all education systems can learn from each other rather than aggresively blocking them out.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, their are problems with the school system in America, but the problems for one district are vastly different that the problems in another. In the case of laws and schools, America shouldn't be looked at as a unified Nation or Country but rather a continent of different States with an over arching Federal Interstate Business government because that is what we have. So the problem in urban California are going to be vastly different than the problem in suburban Indiana and rural Kansas.
 

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SoopaSte123 said:
There are so many problems in our schools that aren't getting fixed, and they're all usually the result of too much politics. The lunches are just the tip of the iceberg. For example, now in Pennsylvania (where I live), school budgets are being cut, leading to awesome newer teachers being let go while old lazy ones stay. It frustrates me sometimes.
wow, can't believe pennsylvania schools are only just now starting do to this...
 

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You know what's sad? The fact that there's a thread about why American school systems suck and it's because of the FOOD. Nevermind the fact that the teachers are undereducated in the subjects they teach. Nevermind that for all of the "no dumb question" rhetoric, teachers still beat down a child's inquisitiveness through improper handling of questions. Nevermind that students in urban areas have anti-educational ideals for the sake of peer acceptance. Nevermind that students are taught to memorize and not to learn and apply. Nevermind the lack of funding and subsequent under equipped classrooms.

I can go on. While I appreciate your concern for our children, the food is not very high up on our list of "shit we can't do correctly and need to fix."
 

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I don't particularly like the way schools are run in any country, but I do like how they made Jamie Oliver cry, I really don't like him.
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
Fleeker said:
We don't really need threads that are attack troll threads.
Ha ha ha, hypocrisy.

I too am not familiar with the show. But it is the United States: public schools are underfunded; and eating healthier is more expensive, especially when it is done on a mass level.
True that. They are underfunded and there is too much expected of them. I mean really, the No Child Left Behind act is based on the fundamental that TAKING AWAY funding is the best way to get schools to do better. And by 2014, 100% of students are expected to pass their end of semester standardized tests. And according to my mom, who works in an elementary school, this includes special needs students. If 100% do not pass, then their school might loose accreditation.

The education system needs a complete overhaul, from the ground up. Funding needs to be re-evaluated. I don't care if it takes shutting the schools down for a year--if that's what it takes, then we should do it. Give all of the employees paid administrative leave until they can get their act together.
 

PneumaticSuicide

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I think i may of come across with the wrong attitude, the main point i was trying to make was 'if you're going to supply school children with food then it should be within the nutritional guides of what they require'.

Take from this what you will
 

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Jakub324 said:
My school (I live in the UK) is making people scan their fingers to pay for food in a COMPLETE dick move. I'm just glad I got into 6th form in time, because now I can hop off to Tesco if I get hungry. :)
I don't entirely get why that's a dick move? Surely it makes it harder to steal? maybe the qeues will be longer, but other than that I can't see why that would be such a bad thing. Maybe unnecessary.
 

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PneumaticSuicide said:
I think i may of come across with the wrong attitude, the main point i was trying to make was 'if you're going to supply school children with food then it should be within the nutritional guides of what they require'.

Take from this what you will
Wouldn't it have been easier to say that than say that you feel bad for an entire country's school children?

The title could have been something like "School food in America. Why?" Or were you looking to draw patriots in by insinuating offense?
 

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PneumaticSuicide said:
The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!
Yeah I watched all the episodes in a row a while back, I'm glad things aren't like that over here.
 

PneumaticSuicide

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bdcjacko said:
PneumaticSuicide said:
bdcjacko said:
PneumaticSuicide said:
The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!
See...maybe you should reword things so it doesn't sound like an attack. This superintendent is only in charge of one school district, not all school districts. So saying you feel bad for American students. So you should really say you feel sorry for these students because of this case. And this is one example and not necessarily indicative of the entire school system across all of America. This one case proves only that school district in question has problems and highlights possible problems that could be nation wide.

Also, I do believe you that you weren't trying to attack, merely showing your out rage and sympathy for the students you saw. But there will be others that will use this as another launch point for an verbal attack on America.

Also lastly, I agree there are problems with the American education system but it isn't the food...well not just the food, sometimes the food was good and healthy. But the problem is underfunding and won't be solved with tv chefs coming in and making a salad.



Thankyou for giving me a little more insight into the subject, i understand that a TV chef such as Jamie Oliver can't fix everything. Our Schools (public) aren't great either but i was hoping for a much more mature response and that is why i mentioned it wasn't an attack. Perhaps i could of constructed my wording in a less offensive manner, nevertheless i do believe that all education systems can learn from each other rather than aggresively blocking them out.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, their are problems with the school system in America, but the problems for one district are vastly different that the problems in another. In the case of laws and schools, America shouldn't be looked at as a unified Nation or Country but rather a continent of different States with an over arching Federal Interstate Business government because that is what we have. So the problem in urban California are going to be vastly different than the problem in suburban Indiana and rural Kansas.


I have to go off the topic of food here and point out that America is NOT a continent of different states, it is a continent of different countries. Alaska, Canada and its provinces, aswell as South America (which, believe it or not is a part of the Americas)Mexico, Panama, Chile, Brazil, Columbia, Peru, Argentina, Venezuela and i could go on. USA IS NOT A CONTINENT