I hace come to terms with anime

[y1fella]

Ya there is good and bad just like anything else.

I'm curious as to why you did not like soul eater tho. I really enjoyed it. You just have to accept that it is not 100% serious all the time.

unfunny Japanese style humor. paper thin characters. weird annoying plot and the only redeeming feature being cool fight scenes.

Ok if you don't like Japanese humor then I get why you wouldn't like it AT ALL. I found the plot interesting though I can see how it could be called "weird". However once you get into the later episodes the characters actually get really deep and full back-stories/personalities.

Well, since you will only like a more serious anime I'm going to suggest to you "Death Note", I hope you like it!

No it's not that i don't like Japanese humor, it's that was bad Japanese humor I'm watching that one now it's kinda creepy. cool and good but you know creepy

 

[masseyguy911]

Well all I got to say is congrats! Yea I remember when I didn't like anime, because I thought it was all like Naruto, then I watched some Cowboy Bebop, and it just blew my mind!

Avatar=not anime. Samurai C isn't even what I'd call a good example of classic anime. Saying Elfen Lied sucked? Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the top 20 best, easily.

Well avatar had an anime like style to it, so I can see how he would think it was anime.
And I didn't like Elfen Lied, at all, saying someone is wrong because they don't like something... shame on you. Its all a matter of opinion, just because the guy doesn't like something does not make him wrong, it just means he doesn't like it. Oh, and just because a lot of people like something, does NOT mean it is good, just means, well, people like it.

 

[Estoki]

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My end point is that when most people agree, something becomes a fact. When Galileo said the earth revolved around the sun, people said no you're wrong, despite it being a fact. At some point, when opinion's are shared by a majority, they become fact. Otherwise nothing can be made a fact because there is always someone who claims otherwise.

Thick line between Opinion and Denial.

Opinion: "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty"

Denial: "a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.*"

Everything you have posted basically falls into category two.

This should be the last post I see about this nonsense, get back on track, guys.

So, back on topic, good for you OP, I pretty much agree with you in everything you said.

Anime is hit/miss for the creators and love/hate for the audience, if you HIT, some people will still hate it, if you MISS some people will probably still love it.

* Actually, back in Galileo's time, it was probably due to the close minded stupidness of people back then.

 

[y1fella]

*wall of text*

You really need to work on sentence and paragraph structure along with some capitalization. It will make your posts a lot easier on the eye and less likely to drive people away.

OT: I think I can give you a prescription to some shows that might change your mind a bit.

First you'll need some good shows to watch. Thankfully I am willing to give you some lists of anime to look at.

All the bolded are must-see.

Spoiler: Slice of Life

-Lucky Star
-The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
-K-On!
-School Rumble
-The Great Teacher Onizuka (bad production values, but a good show overall)
-Azumunga Daioh
-Midori Days
-Ouran High School Host Club

And if you want a little spice in your Slice:
-Welcome to the NHK
-BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad

Spoiler: Action

-Cowboy Bebop (if you must watch one of them, watch this one)
-Outlaw Star
-Trigun
-Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
-Mobile Suit Gundam: 08th MS Team
-Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
-Baccano!
-Full Metal Panic!
-Code Geass
-Desert Punk
-Gundam 00
-Hellsing Ultimate

Spoiler: Adventure

-Wolf's Rain
-Kino's Journey

Spoiler: Drama

-Rozen Maiden
-Now and Then, Here and There (very heavy show)
-Princess Tutu (give it a chance)

Spoiler: Mystery/Horror/Physiological thriller

-Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
-Death Note
-Red Garden
-Blue Gender
-Monster
-RIN ~Daughters of Mnemosyne~
-Paranoia Agent

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You haven't seen enough anime yet to come up with any good conclusion of the media. See some of these and I'm sure they'll alter your opinion a bit.

I also suggest you do some research on shows before you watch them. Look at the directors, VAs, and studios and their track records. Avoid Shonen at all costs.

thanks for the suggestions, ghost in the shell was a cool movie and i plan on watching cowboy bebop. but the thing is i don't want to be anime fan-boy just a semi regular enjoy-er.

 

[Marble Dragon]

*wall of text*

You really need to work on sentence and paragraph structure along with some capitalization. It will make your posts a lot easier on the eye and less likely to drive people away.

OT: I think I can give you a prescription to some shows that might change your mind a bit.

First you'll need some good shows to watch. Thankfully I am willing to give you some lists of anime to look at.

*snippy snip*

You haven't seen enough anime yet to come up with any good conclusion of the media. See some of these and I'm sure they'll alter your opinion a bit.

I also suggest you do some research on shows before you watch them. Look at the directors, VAs, and studios and their track records.

Great list, I definitely agree on the bolded ones. (Plus, gives me some new shows to track down...) To the OP: Yes, track all of these down! You might not like all of it, but you'll be seeing some of the greatest anime I know. (Wolf's Rain...*sniff*) If I may add a few:

Seirei no Moribito: A show set in something more like ancient China than Japan. Has heaps of mythology, interesting characters, and enough action to keep you interested if you need that sort of thing. (Genre: adventure.)

xxxHolic: Honestly, this show isn't for everybody. Some people will hate the really expressed anime tropes (giant sweat drops, extremely long legs, ect.) but it has some really interesting looks into Japanese mythology. I'd say it's worth checking out, even if it's just the first few episodes. (Genre: I have no freaking clue.)

Ghost Hound: This fits more into the 'psychological thriller/horror' genre. It's really, really weird, and pretty creepy at times, but I enjoyed it. It also has an interesting style of art and a lot on the science of the brain. (Genre: Psychological horror, I guess.)

El Cazador de la Bruja: In case you couldn't tell by the name, this one is set in a Central-America style world. The bonding between the two main characters may seem a little strange to some, but I recommend giving it a try.

It's good to see somebody recognizing anime as an art style, not a genre. I wrote a paper on it for my social studies class, and man was that some interesting research. You'll eventually learn the genres you like and the shows that are your favorites. Me, my first show was Evangelion. That was in second grade. Say what you will about that, it had me hooked on the style. (Also, it had giant robots that tore stuff apart. I think as a second grader, I really appreciated that.)

Funny story: my third grade class went to an anime viewing thing once. It was set up at the Seattle Center to teach people about this wonderful knew thing. We got to watch examples of all the different genres, including comedy. One of the comedy clips was a little boy getting his hand bit by a cat. My entire class freaked about about how violet the clip was, and how that wasn't funny or entertaining at all. Having watched giant robots spill enough blood to fill many, many Olympic-sized swimming pools, I could only laugh at this.

EDIT: Damn...now I want to go watch anime...

 

[y1fella]

Ergo Proxy is amazing in my books.... AMAZING. DBZ, is predictable at best.. gee I wonder if Goku will die, be reincarnated and then be able to go superscein x+1 from the last time he died (yes a gross over simplification but kind of on point). I liked Lied, but could see why ppl wouldn't, different strokes for different folks. But I do feel that Ghost in the Shell should be mentioned, especially the original movie before SAC or w/e the acronym is.

yeah i saw Ghost in the shell and should have mentioned it but i didn't in my "wall of text"(have to remember that in future) and matrix is a not as good copy of ghost in the shell. ghost in the shell was awesome.

 

[y1fella]

then i found myself watching avatar the last air bender when i had some free time and it was pretty good then it got better and became quite good.

Okay, despite the correction that Avatar is not anime, it's fully American made, did you see it from beginning to end? Because that is the only way to watch that masterpiece of a show. If you only saw some episodes here and there, I cannot stress enough how much you need to start at the beginning and go to the end: it's an amazing show.

But yeah, there is some good anime. I recommend Death Note as a mind-bending psychological thriller, and Clannad if you're up for something different; a drama/comedy/romance that is guaranteed to make you cry in it's second and final season. Seriously, you will, I don't care what you say. You will cry. Beautiful show.

I watched it from start to end as each season was subsequently released to television, and i didn't know that it could ONLY be counted as Anime if it was made in japan. I thought anime had more to do with the content and cell based animation.

 

[blankedboy]

Avatar=not anime. Samurai C isn't even what I'd call a good example of classic anime. Saying Elfen Lied sucked? Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the top 20 best, easily.

Uhh, anime is an art style, and yes, Avatar is anime.
And your post is almost entirely subjective, you can't say someone's opinion is wrong.
Unless you're trolling, but I reckon that's alot less likely than you just not getting the whole 'argument' thing yet.

I don't watch anime, but I don't hate it either.

 

[The Bum]

i used t hate anime only having seen crap like dragon ball z and Naruto dribbling out the ass of morning cartoons. but recently i was forcefully exposed in school to a show called samurai champloo which was an interesting clever serious funny re-imagining of Feudal Japan, i liked it, allot, it wasn't just good for anime but it was simply really good. then i found myself watching avatar the last air bender when i had some free time and it was pretty good then it got better and became quite good. then i saw some poor soul eater thing, which was really really really bad. then there was this other violence with little girls thing called elfin lied which just sucked, followed by a quite good and creepy darker than black which would have been very good if not for a ultra painful to tolerate set of gag characters (who as far i could tell nobody liked) and then two more excrement storms i forget the names of followed. In conclusion I've come to terms with anime.
It's like television: mostly polished turd with some gold nuggets mixed in.

Well i never really liked DBZ but whats so bad about Naruto? Well for the most part your right it is mostly crap with gold mixed in.

And you haven't lived till you've wacthed cowboy beepbop

 

[Thaius]

then i found myself watching avatar the last air bender when i had some free time and it was pretty good then it got better and became quite good.

Okay, despite the correction that Avatar is not anime, it's fully American made, did you see it from beginning to end? Because that is the only way to watch that masterpiece of a show. If you only saw some episodes here and there, I cannot stress enough how much you need to start at the beginning and go to the end: it's an amazing show.

But yeah, there is some good anime. I recommend Death Note as a mind-bending psychological thriller, and Clannad if you're up for something different; a drama/comedy/romance that is guaranteed to make you cry in it's second and final season. Seriously, you will, I don't care what you say. You will cry. Beautiful show.

I watched it from start to end as each season was subsequently released to television, and i didn't know that it could ONLY be counted as Anime if it was made in japan. I thought anime had more to do with the content and cell based animation.

Well only hardcore anime fans really care, lol, but "anime" is the term used in Japan for what we call "cartoons." So in the context of a different culture, it basically means "Japanese cartoons." I try not to geek out on that definition too much, but Avatar is my all-time favorite show, so I kind of have to in that case.

But yeah, I highly recommend the other anime I mentioned. Death Note will seriously send your for a loop, and Clannad is just... wow.

 

[z121231211]

any1 here has seen high school of the dead?

High School of the Dead would be the last thing I'd show to a potential anime fan.

 

[101194]

High School of the Dead would be the last thing I'd show to a potential anime fan.

*cough* Endless Eight *cough*

 

[Eggsnham]

Yeah, I kinda don't like anime for the same reasons as the OP didn't, it's full of stupid junk that's mainly geared towards 11-13 year old kids (although, I used to enjoy DB and DBZ when I was younger).

I generally stay away from anime, but I remember seeing a show a while back which mainly focused on a badass chick who I'm assuming is some sort of mercenary/hitman... She says 'fuck' a lot...

I dunno what it's called but if anybody could help me figure it out, I think that might be the one anime that I'd watch.

 

[robman1130]

my advise is to jump head first into it. my friend got me into it around a year ago and i have caught up to and/or finished around 20. also try the mangas too. one is better than the other. sometimes anime is better, sometimes the manga is better. anime isnt foe everyone and for some it is all powerful. in less than a year it has taken over more of my life than games or music ever has. i cosplay now. i buy anime crap. i love it all.
just dive into all you can handle and that is the only way you will be sure or not.

 

[xavierxenon]

I feel the opening post degrades people who actually like anime.

 

[Eggsnham]

:/...... If you're being serious I don't really know were to begin here.

What makes it a fact is that it is something that isn't subjective. The English word for what we breath is air. Air is comprised of (in order from most abundant to least) nitrogen, oxygen, argon, carbon dioxide and trace elements dependant on location... This is not opinion. This is scientific fact.

How good an anime series is (no matter how many people agree or disagree) is entirely based on the viewers thoughts. Therefore it is opinion.

It's not really that hard of a concept.

Taste in the arts such as music, theatre, films and games is derived from an individuals opinion.

A fact is something that is proven by empirical evidence.

I personally think both of y'alls is right.

There are facts, which have been proven by good ol' science. That being said; a fact is generally something that a majority of people believe to be true based on evidence.

For instance, I could come up with a hypothesis, let's say my hypothesis is that birds can't feel pain; maybe I tweak the machines and procedures used to get my results, or maybe I faked my results altogether. In the end, my hypothesis was proven scientific fact because of my botched research and the inability or unwillingness of other scientists to test this.

That being said, the majority of people start believing this and it's accepted as fact.

[HEADING=2]Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.[/HEADING]

 

[fletch_talon]

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My end point is that when most people agree, something becomes a fact. When Galileo said the earth revolved around the sun, people said no you're wrong, despite it being a fact. At some point, when opinion's are shared by a majority, they become fact. Otherwise nothing can be made a fact because there is always someone who claims otherwise.

So the earth used to be flat?
Cuz if the majority decides what is and isn't a fact then clearly the earth only became round once 5.01% of people agreed that it did.

This also means that some form of God or higher power factually exists. Unfortunately the majority that is the religious world can't make up its mind as to who or what it is.

Also:
I have come to terms with elitist posts.

i used t hate anime only having seen crap like dragon ball z and Naruto dribbling out the ass of morning cartoons.

They're like the rest of the internet. The majority are misspelt and unpunctuated (ironically I'm not 100% sure if that's a word) and full of hatred and sarcasm. However... nope, I got nothing.

Seriously though, if you didn't like it, that's perfectly fine. However, please don't come here and make out as if your taste in [anything] is the definition of art.
Personally I enjoyed DBZ, and I'd probably enjoy Naruto. Not everything has to have deep characters and plot, sometimes I just want stupid fun.
You don't have to agree with what I think makes something enjoyable, but common courtesy (and the fact that everyone has different tastes) suggests that you respect it.

 

[Aethren]

Now that you've jumped into the anime pool, why not watch some Gantz? Perhaps a bit of Mnemosyne? Higurashi no Naku Koro ni if you're feeling particularly frisky. And a second mention of GTO. That was a great one.

 

[willsham45]

yes you cannot let 2 shows account for everything in anime.
I came into anime when I discovered ghost in a shell, great show, then moved on to trigun, cowboy bebob, elven lied and deathnote

 

[Chaos-Spider]

Ya there is good and bad just like anything else.

I'm curious as to why you did not like soul eater tho. I really enjoyed it. You just have to accept that it is not 100% serious all the time.

unfunny Japanese style humor. paper thin characters. weird annoying plot and the only redeeming feature being cool fight scenes.

Try watching any of the major animated movies by Studio Ghibli, it sounds like you'll like them.