What about those of us that had never played another Halo after Halo: CE. I first played Halo: Reach at my brother's house. I still haven't finished the game, so thanks alot.
Nothing is ever spoiled for me. I don't play games for a surprise ending. I play them for the whole process, so knowing how they end does nothing to diminish my enjoyment along the way.
I don't really care about spoilers. I won't actively look up ones to games/movies/books that I'm interested in, but I don't mind if I stumble across discussion about it, because to me, just reading about it is nowhere near as exhilarating as experiencing it for yourself.
I'm confused with what you're trying to tell me here? If other people have a different opinion than I do and I'm aware of it then I can't help but have my opinion altered by them?
So if I get around to finishing this game and end up loving it, it won't be because it what I honestly believe but just because I want to spite all those people who said it was terrible or something..?
I'm sorry but I don't understand, I was just talking about something which annoyed me.
You claimed earlier that if someone said a game you hadn't finished yet was terrible it would "colour" your perception. Unless you are going into the game thinking that is an absolute impossibility then I don't see how that could colour it. Do you think it impossible for AC3 to be bad? Do you think it impossible that someone may think it is terrible despite it being good to you? Do you think it impossible for them to be wrong? I wouldn't think so, so why is it annoying to you and how does it colour you experience. Why feel the need to defend the title to them? Especially if you haven't completed it yet? I am just pointing out that the opinions of others shouldn't have any bearing on your experience, especially if it is as simple an opinion of "It did or didn't suck". Do you also get upset if someone says "It's wonderful" or is it only if they are talking down on it?
Hmm, okay we were talking about spoilers and the incidents where people claim something is terrible but can't give specific examples why because they don't wish to give spoilers, and yes that DOES annoy me!
Of course it's not impossible that that a given game could be bad or that another person could see a problem where I didn't but it still annoys me to listen to someone criticise something when I don't have all the facts availiable in order to argue the point OR even agree if I should feel that they have a good point.
Like I said in my original post, it would certainly be much better if I could just ignore or avoid these opinions I don't like hearing but I just can't help how I feel and these things do get under my skin sometimes.
I honestly think I'm giving this issue more consideration than is necessary actually, as soon as I've finished this game for myself then the opinions of others are going to occupy less and less space in my mind and cease to bother me anymore.
I don't really care about spoilers. I won't actively look up ones to games/movies/books that I'm interested in, but I don't mind if I stumble across discussion about it, because to me, just reading about it is nowhere near as exhilarating as experiencing it for yourself.
I don't really care about spoilers. I won't actively look up ones to games/movies/books that I'm interested in, but I don't mind if I stumble across discussion about it, because to me, just reading about it is nowhere near as exhilarating as experiencing it for yourself.
If it's a comment on an article or video about something like a new best-selling author or news about some rich person who went crazy and stapled bills to his forehead, then I'll question the sanity of somebody who brings up the Mass Effect 3 ending, but it's never really bothered me enough to get angry about it.
Spec Ops: The Line was spoiled for me multiple times (at least twice by my own volition), but that didn't impact how much I enjoyed the game when I played it.
I am reaaaaaally picky about any kind of spoiler about a game I haven't finished. Even if someone says as much as "Hey, you're gonna get that ability later on when you defeat this random boss guy", I'll probably get pissed.
So it's because of that that as soon as I see the words "end", "spoilers" or something like that, and they're followed by the name of a game I haven't finished, I immediately look away and get out of there. But that's just me being overly picky.
At the same time, some people just don't give a crap about spoilers. For example, the other days my friends at work were talking about the Dark knight Rises, a movie I'd like to watch but I haven't had the time to do so. I heard the word "ending" and I asked them to stop but they claimed I had over 6 months to go watch it and it was my fault the ending was still a spoiler for me (Incidentally, they had already spoiled part of that movie for me a week after its release).
So yeah, I do it mostly for myself. If I wanna avoid spoilers, I'll be real careful about what I read and hear about something. I know you can't have control over that all the time but at least I try.
Given the uproar of the ME3 ending, I had to watch it on youtube. Then I had to go spoil it for one of my co-workers. He never played ME1, and was likely never going to play ME3 as he hated the gameplay of ME2. A die-hard WoW player,...
Anyway, I agreed, the original ending was crap. I just played the game last week, to see if the game actually justified the ending. The game was good, until that crappy ending. I may have liked it better, having been warned about certain choices. Still it doesn't make sense in context.
Apparently, the ending is justified with DLC. Without that DLC, you have one hint during ME3, and the great McGuffin is introduced. I still think that somebody must have been smoking something when they came up with the ending.
MetalMagpie said:
Rosebud is the sled. Darth Vader is Luke's father. The Planet of the Apes is Earth. Soylent Green is people. Dumbledore dies.
Rosebud is a classic, but one I've never seen. Probably is slowly being forgotten.
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, that is one of the most well known spoilers ever. I'll let this one pass.
The Planet of the Apes: Well, pretty obvious, especially if you watched the most recent ones first. Still not a very popular movie.
Soylent Green. Another of the most well known spoilers. I have never seen the movie, but it was spoiled years ago. I'll let others experience the horror of having this movie spoiled for them.
Harry Potter #? Whichever movie this is, I haven't seen it, but was going to. Thanks a lot,...
That was pretty much my point. MetalDooley was arguing that you should only click on unlabelled spoiler tags if you don't care about anything being spoiled for you (as you don't know what's in them). I was giving an unlabelled spoiler tag with a selection of spoilers as an example. One of them you didn't know. I did say "Click if you dare!"
Personally, I think it's more courteous to give people an idea of what's in them, so people who are bothered by spoilers can still take part in conversations about games/films/etc. that they have already finished.
I hate it too but in some multiple-ending games I'll deliberately spoil them just because I'm too anxious to wait my own outcome or I'm trying to avoid the bad ending where my dude kills himself or everybody dies after wasting 60 hours of my life on it.
Not big deal for me. Only spoilers that I might be unhappy about are the ones that reveal a huge twist. If there isn't one, I don't mind.
With that in mind, ME3's ending being spoiled should have upset me, but it was so fucking retarded that I just laughed instead and forgot all about the game. I still haven't acquired it.
Should probably catch up one of these days.
Hmm, okay we were talking about spoilers and the incidents where people claim something is terrible but can't give specific examples why because they don't wish to give spoilers, and yes that DOES annoy me!
Of course it's not impossible that that a given game could be bad or that another person could see a problem where I didn't but it still annoys me to listen to someone criticise something when I don't have all the facts availiable in order to argue the point OR even agree if I should feel that they have a good point.
Like I said in my original post, it would certainly be much better if I could just ignore or avoid these opinions I don't like hearing but I just can't help how I feel and these things do get under my skin sometimes.
I honestly think I'm giving this issue more consideration than is necessary actually, as soon as I've finished this game for myself then the opinions of others are going to occupy less and less space in my mind and cease to bother me anymore.
I merely meant to point out that this is something you don't have to be annoyed by. Essentially, people aren't even allowed to talk about how they feel about a game you want to play near you without annoying you. It annoys you with or without spoilers. This makes me think of you saying "I want to play ______" and your friend says "Yeah, I just beat it the other day, its pretty good." Then you reply "Thanks, dickhead!"
As you say, once you play the game - this won't matter when all is said and done anyways. I am just saying, try not to let it get to you. Especially, if once you play it, it don't matter anyways. I don't mean to come off as "your wrong, stop it" I merely mean "you do know that's irrelevant and you don't have to let that bother you, right?" People on this very site LOVE Oblivion and this seriously hurts my brain if I try to understand it, but they don't annoy me. You must understand, I think that game is the epitome of bad game design. Additionally, I haven't beat KotOR2 yet and people trash it all the time on this site - others defend it, but I don't give a crap. I know I want to play it and that is that. Once I get to it on my backlog, maybe I can join in this old ass conversation.
Hmm, okay we were talking about spoilers and the incidents where people claim something is terrible but can't give specific examples why because they don't wish to give spoilers, and yes that DOES annoy me!
Of course it's not impossible that that a given game could be bad or that another person could see a problem where I didn't but it still annoys me to listen to someone criticise something when I don't have all the facts availiable in order to argue the point OR even agree if I should feel that they have a good point.
Like I said in my original post, it would certainly be much better if I could just ignore or avoid these opinions I don't like hearing but I just can't help how I feel and these things do get under my skin sometimes.
I honestly think I'm giving this issue more consideration than is necessary actually, as soon as I've finished this game for myself then the opinions of others are going to occupy less and less space in my mind and cease to bother me anymore.
I merely meant to point out that this is something you don't have to be annoyed by. Essentially, people aren't even allowed to talk about how they feel about a game you want to play near you without annoying you. It annoys you with or without spoilers. This makes me think of you saying "I want to play ______" and your friend says "Yeah, I just beat it the other day, its pretty good." Then you reply "Thanks, dickhead!"
As you say, once you play the game - this won't matter when all is said and done anyways. I am just saying, try not to let it get to you. Especially, if once you play it, it don't matter anyways. I don't mean to come off as "your wrong, stop it" I merely mean "you do know that's irrelevant and you don't have to let that bother you, right?" People on this very site LOVE Oblivion and this seriously hurts my brain if I try to understand it, but they don't annoy me. You must understand, I think that game is the epitome of bad game design. Additionally, I haven't beat KotOR2 yet and people trash it all the time on this site - others defend it, but I don't give a crap. I know I want to play it and that is that. Once I get to it on my backlog, maybe I can join in this old ass conversation.
I only have a problem with people who criticise and even that isn't because I think they are wrong it's only when I feel they're being arrogant or condescending.
I never tell anyone they're not allowed to express their opinion around me and no amount of criticism is going to affect my own opinion it is really just something that gets on my nerves sometimes.
You are right though that this isn't something I need to be annoyed by and in the long run an opinion about a video game is the least of anyones worries, but it doesn't mean I don't get a little frustrated sometimes.
I do understand what you're trying to explain to me but I think we've both drawn this particular topic out further than it needed to go mainly due to my own misunderstanding, so I'll just say now that I'm sorry for wasting your time.
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