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Charisma said:
in this case i have to take the conservative side - about the only thing you can do is be oppressive, but you must make sure he has a place to go when deprived of WoW.

what i mean is, if he doesn't have (for example) a friend's house to go over and sulk and do something else, then it's like squeezing one half of a balloon while the other half has nowhere to expand to. something's got to give.

so subtly make sure he has other options for spending his time, then pull the plug and feel no remorse.

it'll definitely help if you don't actually suggest other things to do, because obviously he's going to hate your guts for a while and your very suggestions will taint those other options, thereby further oppressing him whether that's what you intend or not.

and don't think of it as oppression. think of it as steering him away from unhealthy things. in ten years if he has nothing but his WoW life to talk about, he will be a very sad person indeed.

like my little brother is going to be, LOL

i agree here you need to give him no time, wow requires a good bit of time to not be a liability to others, so let him have 2 hours and he becomes angry at you because he thought he had time, it took too long, so other WoW players are angry/dissapointed at him and then he is angry at you.if hes that obsessed into it, he must hate his real life compared to his wow character. There is 2 reasons to play WoW again after he is finished with this obsession, bullying/depression and he wants to get away from it all, or he is very bored(usually near the end of summer) and starts playing about to kill the time and gets obsessed with it again.

i say this as having a former obsession with WoW. i have no self esteem, so the only reason i stopped is because i didnt want to dissapoint anyone, and i figured my Wow friends would get over it faster
 

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Isolda Sage said:
I am not much of gamer. I come on here to read the articles, really. I am however the mother of a 12 year old gamer, who has lost his mind to World of Warcraft. I have had to block all access to WoW because He had been acting like a true addict.
He plays all night. He sneaks up in the middle of the night to play. When I take the game and his computer away this normally well behaved child turns into a crazed idiot willing to fight me for his computer and the ability to play it.
So as it stands he cannot play and he is mourning the loss of his online friends. Is this a common experience?
Please, please, PLEASE disregard this person's advice:
Miumaru said:
Isolda Sage said:
Miumaru said:
Being oppressive does not help. If you want him to not do something, have something else for him to do. I dont mean chores either, but fun things. I spend most of my time gaming. Id spend less time gaming though if I could hang out with friends more, for example.
I do NOT believe I am be oppressive! I am providing as much for him to do as possible! I have been encouraging him to spend time with friends and do the other things he love to do!
He has fun when we are out doing things and goes right back to harassing me to let him play the minute we get home.
I don't mind him playing; not at all. I just want him to keep it in balance and show me some better behavior first!
Whether YOU think you are being oppressive does not matter. If HE thinks you are though, does. I am merely stating from the point of view as the child, as my mother took away games and such when I was being "bad" or something. Lets just say I hate her, alot. Beyond for just that ofcourse, but either way, I hate my mother but wish I did not.
How into video games are you? You ARE on this site, and since it is gaming focused, it leads me to believe you are a gamer to some degree. If so, why not try to find games you can play with him? He plays games AND forges a stronger bond with you, and the more he loves you, the more he will like making you happy.
What you're doing (taking away privileges in response to unwanted behavior) is EXACTLY what you should be doing. As others have said, use it as the carrot in a carrot-stick arrangement; get him to show favorable behavior, and he may get his carrot; playtime. If he continues to show the unwanted behavior, keep giving him the stick: no playtime with the game. You are doing what a good parent should and I very much wish that more parents did these days; disciplining their child. You need to lay down the law; be firm, but fair. It's called authoritative parenting and it's the most effective type of parenting there is. Give him play time for favorable activities (monitored and for limited periods of time. Do not lay off on this, as the behavior will come right back as soon as you slack off. Make it a habit.)
My parents did this with me, and even though I was always very angry and pouty about it, it has really helped me in the long run.
I'm 43. I haven't been 12 in a long, long time, and when I was, there were no games to play like WoW in such a fashion. But I agree with the above poster. I also think you should use the WoW parental controls. If you can password-protect them, do so with a password he is unlikely to know or guess (mingling letters, numbers and symbols is a good idea- make sure you remember it, and don't write it down anywhere). Start out with two hours a day, but make sure he's done his homework and whatever first, which is why you may want to limit those hours to a time when you can be home to check he has done so before letting him on the computer. I'm sure he'll savage you to all his online friends, but- stick to your guns. Buy earplugs if you need to. Let him know it's this or nothing, and if he acts good and does everything he needs to, you will consider upping that time. You can put riders on this like "This house is a whining-free zone. If you whine, I am not going to be inclined to increase the time you are allowed to play the game."

As others have said, the upping of hours he's allowed to play is predicated on good behavior. The better he acts, the more he is allowed to play. Backsliding will be punished by decreasing back to the bare minimum. Physical acting out, means no playtime that week (or greater time, depending on the degree of acting out- if he's punching, slapping or kicking you, no playtime for the next month, or whatever). I don't know if school has started yet, but this is especially important during the school year, of course. During the weekends, you might want to watch him play. Not in a "I'm watching you to control you," Kind of way, but ask him what he likes about playing. Ask him to tell you what he's doing and what's going on. If you don't know how to play, ask him to teach you for a while. It might help him feel closer to you and not see you as a punishing jailer who is restricting his access to WoW.

He'll probably never be happy about it, but he'll probably grow resigned to it, at the very least.
 

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With things such as gaming addiction its important to assert the ideas of self control and discipline as virtues. An addiction to gaming, similarly to marijuana addiction, does not exist in a chemical sense- but can exist strongly in a mental sense. Since it is just a mental addiction, self control and self discipline, as well as imposed discipline, can be very effective at eliminating it.
 

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MercurySteam said:
Isolda Sage said:
So as it stands he cannot play and he is mourning the loss of his online friends. Is this a common experience?
I'm afraid so. So people get over it, many others don't. By this I mean the long hours spent on a MMORPG. He will never give up trying to get it back. Limiting his time to a few hours a day is much better for all parties involved instead of cutting him off completely.
This is when it comes down to...yell at the kid and he is punished to his room...and pleese do not tell me he has a 360 and HD TV in his room..thats not a punishment. He's what 12....if you shut down the account tell him you have no money to spend on it.....unless he has a serious problem explain that you cant pay for it for him...if its a lie..who cares...and also.....if his friends in real life...also play online with him....it might just be because he dosent know how to act in a real social enviroment.....

P.S, Just dont kill the kid....video games have enough of a bad Rap for crazy parents and that would make this new court case all the worse..

P.P.S!!!! OHHHH idea to make him learn and let him play....tell him to research the supreme court case that is (not exactly sure) upcomming or in progress about video games being protected under the 1st admmentent <---Spelt wrong...AND make sure he has good grades so he can play...something he can acomplish..not A+'s or something he cant do. Who knows mabie he might become a laywer because of you getting him interisted in it. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1961-Free-Speech if you havnt watched it
 

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Isolda Sage said:
I am not much of gamer. I come on here to read the articles, really. I am however the mother of a 12 year old gamer, who has lost his mind to World of Warcraft. I have had to block all access to WoW because He had been acting like a true addict.
He plays all night. He sneaks up in the middle of the night to play. When I take the game and his computer away this normally well behaved child turns into a crazed idiot willing to fight me for his computer and the ability to play it.
So as it stands he cannot play and he is mourning the loss of his online friends. Is this a common experience?
As several others have suggested; carrot and stick.
If he does his chores and homework, let him play a few hours in the afternoon. Give him an extra hour or so if he ace tests or helps his grandma etc...
Let him have the choice, earning pocket money or WoW-hours.

As for raids, let him have the option to save up hours for that all important 8 hour raid, and do that on weekends.

But, and keep in mind this is just my personal opinion, if the he dares to throw a tantrum; cancel the WoW-account. Actions have consequences, and acting like a spoiled brat can't be tolerated. You're his parent, you're an authority figure he can't be allowed to manipulate in this way.
By all means, children are allowed (and should be encouraged) to question decisions. But throwing tantrums aint acceptable behaviour in anyone above the age of 4. And he's 12! What is he, Cartman?
 

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happened the same as me, though if you want to make him stop play or play less maybe get something else, like star wars: battlefront 2 is a good game for 12 year olds
 

Badger Kyre

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I have to say I'm pretty pleased and impressed at how "the community" has responded to this -
especially those that went "above and beyond" - you know who you are.

Well done, folks.
 

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Badger Kyre said:
I have to say I'm pretty pleased and impressed at how "the community" has responded to this -
especially those that went "above and beyond" - you know who you are.

Well done, folks.
I take offense at this post for some arbitrary reason. :D

I agree we seem to be calm about this where is my flash mob?

OP I really want to know what you do and how it works, keep us in the loop. Having the internet as a parent, what could be cooler?
 

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HG131 said:
Gudrests said:
MercurySteam said:
Isolda Sage said:
So as it stands he cannot play and he is mourning the loss of his online friends. Is this a common experience?
I'm afraid so. So people get over it, many others don't. By this I mean the long hours spent on a MMORPG. He will never give up trying to get it back. Limiting his time to a few hours a day is much better for all parties involved instead of cutting him off completely.
This is when it comes down to...yell at the kid and he is punished to his room...and pleese do not tell me he has a 360 and HD TV in his room..thats not a punishment. He's what 12....if you shut down the account tell him you have no money to spend on it.....unless he has a serious problem explain that you cant pay for it for him...if its a lie..who cares...and also.....if his friends in real life...also play online with him....it might just be because he dosent know how to act in a real social enviroment.....

P.S, Just dont kill the kid....video games have enough of a bad Rap for crazy parents and that would make this new court case all the worse..

P.P.S!!!! OHHHH idea to make him learn and let him play....tell him to research the supreme court case that is (not exactly sure) upcomming or in progress about video games being protected under the 1st admmentent <---Spelt wrong...AND make sure he has good grades so he can play...something he can acomplish..not A+'s or something he cant do. Who knows mabie he might become a laywer because of you getting him interisted in it. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1961-Free-Speech if you havnt watched it
I must ask, why would she want her son to grow up to help let murders and rapists walk free?
Woahhh...what did i miss that you interprit something here about that?!??!?
 

Badger Kyre

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I have a problem with the carrot and stick thing. Sure, he'll act good, but that's just what it is, an act. He'll grow up harboring deep hatred that he can't express without being made even more unhappy. That's a quick path to really bad news.
I dunno, in principle I agree with you -

but there has to be limits - surely no one, not yourself, was allowed to do WHATEVER they wanted with no stick or carrot?

And let me tell you, I've had to learn to "act" and not express everything - in real life and the internet.

I'd like MAslow's Hierarchy to be at step 4 or 5, but... sadly, most people need stick and carrot IMO.
 

Badger Kyre

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HG131 said:
Isolda Sage said:
Burst6 said:
I think a good start would be taking his computers power cable every night.
Yeah, I did that. That resulted in a blow up not so different than that video.
Remember, he's a human being. I think the best way to compare it is if someone took away your car/tv/computer/whatever you really love to use, and there was no way besides pretending and faking happiness for years to get it back. Sound like torture? It's what you're doing.
This goes back to the entitlement thing.

Using your mother's computer and your mother's internet while living in your mother's home, isn't a RIGHT -

it's a privilege.

ALL privileges are based on good behavior, at least to a point.
If he doesn't like it, he can buy his own computer and his own interent - in boarding school :)

Anyway, if he had regulated his play time responsibly, this situation would not have occurred, methinks, in the first place.

DO NOT MAKE ME CALL DR. DREW ON YOUR ASSES!!!
 

Isolda Sage

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Badger Kyre said:
I have to say I'm pretty pleased and impressed at how "the community" has responded to this -
especially those that went "above and beyond" - you know who you are.

Well done, folks.
People, have been great!