I like twilight.

[Drakmeire]

expecting waves of profanity and insults in 3....2....1....
well before that happens i would just like to state that I believe twilight is a very poorly written series that is clearly made up of the same words over and over again run though a thesaurus and that it ruined the idea that vampires can be taken seriously. there is barely a plot in the books outside of
Edward:I wanted to eat you but now I love you because I can't read your mind (presumably because Bella has no thoughts) but I have to go or i still might eat you
Bella: I'm sad because I have no life outside of my sociopathic abusive boyfriend so now I'll kill myself"
*boring werewolf boy appears*
*edward thinks bella is dead so he trys to kill himself*
Edward: wait your alive, lets get married dispute me leaving you for no reason and us having absolutely nothing in common dispute being suicidal.
*vampire marrage, vampire sex, vampire birth with a fang Cesarean (Wait... WHAT!?!) vampire baby born, werewolf boy falls in love with newborn baby for some reason*
werewolf boy:Oh my god! I'm in love this 1 day old baby! but I will wait for her to be legal.
*baby ages to adulthood (which is 17 in the book for some reason) in like a week*
*evil vampires and werewolves show up for epic battle*
*they figh--- no wait, they settle their differences through TALKING for about 30 pages*
*end of series*

 

[Instant K4rma]

Ok, you like Twilight. I like Eric Clapton and Pulp Fiction. Your opinion is your opinion. It shouldn't matter how many people either like it or hate it. If you like it, fine by me. I don't see a big deal in liking something that someone else doesn't, or vice versa. It's all just our opinions.

 

[spartan231490]

So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.

What books did she steal ideas from, most of the complaints I hear have to do with her ideas being too original (read: shiney vampires)? Honestly curious, but beyond that, I also dont understand this argument about any book. "oh, I won't read Wheel Of Time because trollocks are obviously orcs." Why is this an issue, of course writers are going to use ideas from good books, they liked those books and ideas just as much as you did. As long as the plot isn't a direct rip-off to the point of predictability, I don't mind.

 

[spartan231490]

I do not respect Stephanie Meyers because she has not earned my respect. Yes, she may have used language and themes that were perfectly suitable for her target audience (the almost illiterate, angst filled teens). However, this does not excuse her writing quality. I'd rather murder someone than admit that a book that uses sentences like "I am sad." She said sadly. can compare to the great works of literature.

Never said it was as well written as a classic. But I think it was written well, if simply.

 

[Super Toast]

Personally, the fanbase is what makes me sick. I also think the books aren't particularly well made, nor are the movies, but you're entitled to your own opinion.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.

I am seriously going laugh in the face of the next person who claims that The Escapist is more intelligent or more enlightened or whatever. This website has about as much intelligence and tolerance for different ideas as an amoeba in an SS uniform.

 

[spartan231490]

I'm not saying that they are amazing, or even great. But I don't believe that they are so poorly done as to be hate-worthy.

 

[spartan231490]

So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.

I am seriously going laugh in the face of the next person who claims that The Escapist is more intelligent or more enlightened or whatever. This website has about as much intelligence and tolerance for different ideas as an amoeba in an SS uniform.

It's the internet, don't expect too much. But I see a lot more of insanity and insults on other forums than I do here, which is why I started this discussion here.

 

[spartan231490]

Monsters arent supposed to.....u know what, why even bother...its not gonna change ur opinion or of the slightly pudgy tween girls hitting puberty who wear hot topic because theyre not comformists buying clothes from a chain store even though it looks like covered themselves with glue and jumped into a pile of neon rags and shin high boots. All im saying is the black and white 1961 dracula is one of my favorite vampire stories and this stuff is fucking my shit up.
And if ur a guy.......i miss harry potter....(gunshot)......still here,just kidding.

Is coherence too much to ask? That said and all joking aside, dracula style vampires are awesome, but if anyone wrote books about them, we would all scream "RIP-OFF", so I'm glad that meyers did something new.

 

[theironbat46]

You are initialed to your opinion. I personally hate it with every fiber of my being. It's mostly the rabid fan girls. High pitched fan girls screaming over shirtless guys...

 

[kurupt87]

Well OP, you kind of said the reason that I don't like them, I am not the target audience. I am an adult male not a teenage female. These books, and films, weren't made with me in mind so they are not for me.

Am I angry about this? No. There are plenty of books and films out there that I do enjoy, let people that enjoy these works enjoy them.

Do I believe they are poorly written? Well, I haven't read them myself, again they are not something I'd enjoy at all. People whose opinion I respect when it comes to books have said they are poorly written though, but I can't say either way as I've only seen the first film and had 3rd party exposure to the rest.

The only real trouble is when people start trying to shove something you don't like down your throat, in the belief that enough of it will make you like it. This. Will. Not. Happen. Fortunately I deal with very few (rabid) fans of the series, so this doesn't affect me much.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.

I am seriously going laugh in the face of the next person who claims that The Escapist is more intelligent or more enlightened or whatever. This website has about as much intelligence and tolerance for different ideas as an amoeba in an SS uniform.

It's the internet, don't expect too much. But I see a lot more of insanity and insults on other forums than I do here, which is why I started this discussion here.

I know it's the Internet. I just take it upon myself to remind the rest of the Escapist that they're no better then the rest of the Internet because they seem to be under the very very false impression that they are. ...and maybe in some small way actually inspire them to be better than the rest of the Internet.

That last part is wishful thinking I know, but hey I can dream.

 

[spartan231490]

You are initialed to your opinion. I personally hate it with every fiber of my being. It's mostly the rabid fan girls. High pitched fan girls screaming over shirtless guys...

Understandable, hearing that kinda makes me want to punch people.
and thanks, I was just curious what bothers people soo much about the books.

 

[spartan231490]

The escapist is better, but thats kinda like being more religious than an atheist. Not much of an accomplishment. At least, the escapist is better in my experience.

 

[Rusty pumpkin]

my problem is that why vampires and werewolves? does she have some list of mythical blood hungry savage monsters to rip off? she could have made some new creature, thats what fantasys for, either build off the old or make the new, not cover the old with sparkles and romance. and the main reason twilight is a hate topic is because very few of these fantasy romance rip offs (i refuse to call them anything else) have achieved such fame as twilight has. seriously, 2 movies that got thousands of views on their screen day and has somehow managed to spread its influence to the far corners of the entertainment industry. its hard for people to not hate something when it becomes so present in every day life, this is why i hate "pop rock" (aka, hannah, gaga, jonas, etc.)

 

[spartan231490]

Fargodog, and Razada, thanks for the imput, but I just don't see it. admittedly, the sparkly vamps is mildly disconserting, but on everything else I personally, don't see it.

 

[Swifteye]

I don't like it cause the whole thing comes off as a negative influence to the audience it targets. It's also a bit of a run around because it's soft core porn being treated as an actual story.

The biggest reason people hate it is because it has attracted massive attention and deserves none of it. I don't care about normal vampires. But I kinda respect the source material on what makes a vampire a vampire. IE: being a more superior version of a zombie with a bat theme. And it almost seems completely absent that making out with a corpse that feast on the blood of the living is disturbing.

That and the characters are total jokes. The main character is a paper thin puppet to be replaced by the reader. The other characters like edward are like the manaquins you see in stores. All there is to there existence is to be seen by others for there appearance. If the writing got any worse. And the were lots of spelling mistakes. This would qualify for bad fanfiction.

Once again, none of this would matter if it were not for the fact that it's incredubly popular despite being garbage. Sure you could say that about movies like transformers. In fact you could. I go in to see those movies to see robots beat each other up. Some will read the twilight to get some, I don't even know the apporiate word. Self freak on for a bit of time. And thats fine. It would be kinda nice if the fans of this series had any deceny to not force people who don't like twilight to watch it and read it.

I mean you twilight readers don't make it easy to avoid it for a lot of people who read it. It's all they talk about. And constantly being in the precense of something annoying, makes it harder to ingore.