I Think I Know Exactly Why People Hate Midi-chlorians

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Frankster

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canadamus_prime said:
On an unrelated note, I'm seeing that many of many of my fellow Escapists are little better then those found over on 4chan.
Agree with ya :\ Also wondering if theres a correlation between age and needing to throw in uneccesary swearing.

On topic: Shame Yoda didnt have time to give Luke a biology lesson on Dagobah.
 

mocruz1200

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congrats on you observation.....
but i really dont like when threads like this show up
"i think I am the one that has cracked this mysterious code"
like everyone was lost and chaotic about the subject before you came along. when the whole midi-chlorian thing came about, i realized that as i sat in the theater watching the move
 

Lekonua

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Plurralbles said:
Lekonua said:
See, I think the Force can still be that mysterious, magical source of power.

The midichlorians aren't the Force, they just explain why some people can tap into it and others can't. More midichlorians, higher Force-sensitivity.

Also, a random theory I have: midichlorian count increases when passed from a parent to a child. Think about it, what do Kyle Katarn, Galen Marek, and Luke Skywalker all have in common? They're all insanely powerful, and they all had JEDI PARENTS. (I haven't gotten that far in the book series yet, but I'm lead to believe that the Solo kids aren't exactly weaklings, either.)
sorry to burst your bubble but did you not see that there were kids in the films with the power?

Surely it's not assumed that they all came from non jedi. I mean, the jedi were still alive and well and populace at this time.

But alright, if they just go around searching okay. It seemed like Jedi knights were at least celibate so perhaps nevermind?
Children discovered to be Force-sensitive are taken from their families for Jedi training at a very young age to prevent any attachment (which increases potential for turning to the Dark Side.) The council even insisted that Anakin was too old for it, and Yoda said this of Luke.

Jedi bring in Force-sensitive children from all over the galaxy, which- even if it's a small galaxy- is an extremely big place with thousands of planets and trillions upon trillions of sentient beings.

A fairly large number of them at the Jedi temple with non-Force sensitive biological parents is not hard to believe.
 

OmegaXzors

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Why the Hell is the first page cluttered with people going, "you're # years late to the party!" Wasn't one enough? No, because everyone has to be cool and flame the OP. You all need to stop breathing my air because you clearly don't have a good use for it.

I think the idea of midi-chlorians is great. Why? Gives a definite answer. A "mysterious source of power" is dumb. Religion can tell you that.
 

Flee the Cities

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in related news, i thought the recent movie "passion of the christ" was a little overdramatic. thoughts anyone??
 

bloodychimp

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I find it odd that people get mad over the midichlorians when there are so many blanket failures in writing, directing, and acting to hate.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Milky_Fresh said:
canadamus_prime said:
Milky_Fresh said:
canadamus_prime said:
Milky_Fresh said:
zHellas said:
No problem... I hate it when people pull this shit on here.
*flexes muscles*
Back off guys... The kids with me.
You must be really busy then.
Being a white knight is hard work.
Esp. with all the dipshits around. ...who shall remain nameless.
Nameless or not, they may as well be standing on top of a lighthouse, shooting off fireworks and screaming. I kinda prefer the 4chan trolls, at least they know what they are.
Indeed, the people around here seem to be under the very false impression that they're somehow better then everyone else one the net all the while all the while being just as much of a douche as everyone else on the net. Which is why I take every opportunity I can to try and take 'em down a peg or two.
 

SonicKoala

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Yep, that's exactly right. If you figured that out all by yourself without consulting the plethora of sources which deal with the exact same topic (and attack it in a significantly more hostile way than you just did), then good for you - you're quite insightful.

Then again, I think that if the "Force" had originally involved micro-organisms, Star Wars would have been significantly less cool - hell, there probably wouldn't have been 6 movies if that had been the original idea.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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'Kay, now that everyone's gotten their feelings laid out and out of the way, is there any point to this thread anymore?
 

Mrsoupcup

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Lambi said:
First off:
O RLY?

And you must have heard it somewhere, even if you're only 15 years old. I mean, it's all over the internet that midi-chlorians are hated because it ruined the magic behind the Force.
Exactly, nothing is all that scary or interesting if you explain it.
 

ObsessiveSketch

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zHellas said:
It's because that in the original trilogy, the Force was built up as a magical, mysterious source of power and not something gained by a symbiotic exchange from blood parasites.

If the Force was set up as something gained by a symbiotic exchange from blood parasites, then people would be fine with Midi-chlorians.

EDIT: I don't give a flying fuck that I'm apparently '10 years late' or so.

10 years ago I was 5. And 5 years ago, I was 10. So I didn't fucking care at the time, nor was I into computers as I am now.
Somebody been watching the reviews on youtube?
 

Therumancer

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The entire thing was a plot device so they had some way of being able to single out Anakin as being "special". Also one of the problems with the idea of The Force being a simple mystical force that anyone could use with training and practice is that if that was all there was to it, you'd see tons more Force Users running around everywhere as opposed to a select handfull of people, and it would have been very difficult to wipe them out to near extinction.

Now granted, the whole thing was a bit dumb, but I understand why it happened, and why it had to be done. Also I'm not sure if it's really them gaining power from the symbiotes (they aren't parasites) or if they are a side effect of being favorted by The Force.

Understand that the entire thing is still pretty mystical, I mean we are dealing with a concept that relies on things like prophecies. The big "point" of 90% of what happens is that there is a prophecy about Anakin that he will "Bring Balance To The Force". It's believed by some that since The Sith are appearing again after having been entirely wiped out, that Anakin is supposed to put them down again. Sadly that's not the case, since the good guys are dominant he's supposed to bring them down, create a period where things are "balanced" and from there will come a new age of evil and strife ruled by The Sith, much like the age Papaltine refers to. A big part of the story is that just as the good guys are misinterpeting the prophecy, so is Papaltine. Papaltine believes that a new age of The Sith will come from this immediatly and he'll get to be in on the ground floor as it's leader. He's also wrong, he and Anakin are simply tools to create the transition period.

Incidently, that's why The Sith are so powerful in the prequels is because the universe is on their side. The good guys mention how "The Force Is Cloudy" because they are also becoming weaker due to what The Force itself wants.

The entire point of the KoTR II video game was about free will within this concept. The ending got messed up because they had to go with an earlier build, but the whole gimmick of the game was someone (Kreia) trying to destroy The Force itself, so that people could determine their own destiny. Albeit other than killing the force users, how she planned to deliver the final blow after that point was never revealed. Apparently George Lucas was involved in this storyline.

The point I'm making is that even with the whole "blood symbiotes" bit which annoyed people, I think the entire idea of "The Force" is still pretty bloody mystical. Given that there are prophecies and such (and these elements have been present ever since Luke visited The Cave on Degobah in "Empire Strikes Back") obviously there is an intelligence of sorts involved, whether that intelligence is some godlike figure in white flowing robes, some kind of symbiotic mass mind that lives in all things to some extent, or a prevasive energy field which said symbiotes help with the channeling of and are put into living beings by the chosen few... it all comes down to the same basic premise.

I guess the point of what I'm saying is that while the hatred is understandable, I don't think it actually changed all that much in a functional sense.
 

UnataSingu

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Wow, good to see a thread composed of nothing but attacking the premise is remaining popular while the potentially entertaining ones are bumped off.