I think inFamous is overrated.

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g805ge said:
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Me and a friend were commenting about it and we have come to the conclusion that it is merely a sad attempt to combat prototype but failed miserably
I don't think its SuckerPunch intention to compete with Prototype.
No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.
Man, people here have a lot of hate against console exclusives and love for multiplatform games.
I’m sorry but where did I state my hatred for console exclusivity? I like console exclusivity as it vindicates my purchase, if it weren't for exclusivity what would be the point of multiple consoles?

I mealy pointed out that this is a very similar premise to Prototype, and that it seems to be getting the critical love based on the fact that the PS3's current line up is so piss poor that anything remotely good becomes a must buy, even if it is crap (not saying that this game in particular is crap just a general statement)
 

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Fun s all that matters in a game, if your not having fun or it doesn't look fun, your not going to play it.
 

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Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.
It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

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I've learned to stop caring about "morality" systems in games, no game does it right.

What I did enjoy a lot about InFamous, is that it really makes you feel like a Super Hero, but to feel like a super hero you... you know... need to be a hero.

But InFamous isn't really a game about the "grey area" between good and evil, it's about being heroic or selfish, at least from what I can tell (I've been going the good route). Most of the "evil" choices aren't really evil, they're more about helping yourself or your friends over others.
 
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Do you make a thread everytime you don't like a popular game? It's fine...I just didn't know that is what we did. Everyone look forward to my 12 "final fantasy (insert number here) is overrated" threads. I like inFamous though, it has jumping and electricity based violence...I like those things alot.
 

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This game is awesome. Great story, great controls, overall the best sandbox game I've played in my life.

I just came in here to say that, will now exit before more bitching ensues!
 

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Mazty said:
scarbunny said:
No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.
Hello fanboy.
Sorry, but the PS3 has almost all the games the 360 has, and exclusives such as Killzone, Motorstorm, Resistance, LBP, MGS4 and Uncharted fill up the exclusive list.
The bullcrap that is "The ps3 has no games" just doesn't fly anymore.
Move along troll, just pitchforks and torches here, no bridge.
Fanboy Vs. Fanboy! Oh boy!
 

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Spirultima said:
wgreer25 said:
Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.
It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.
Ah, I see your a halo-bashing sony fan-boy, nice to meet you.
Btw, there's a reason halo 3 outsold any ps3 ever made, it was more fun.
 

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g805ge said:
Spirultima said:
wgreer25 said:
Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.
It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.
Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

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Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.
 

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The first thing that surprised me when I read this post is that you did not simply spew fanboy rage, but made a convincing, insightful criticism instead. I think that deserves a round of virtual applause :)

Anyway, I agree with most of what you said, except for a few things.

Firstly, as long as Karma systems exist in games, there will never be a middle ground. Just face it; you're either Optimus Prime/Jesus Christ or Adolf Hitler/Rush Limbaugh, get used to it. Games with Karma systems don't encourage gamers to aim for a middle ground for only one reason, THERE ISN'T ONE.

Secondly, firearms have become default armory for any games these days. Your character may have the ability eat human hearts using the evil tentacle monsters attached to his shoulders, but he'll still be equipped double pistols regardless.

However, I do agree with you regarding the game length. The term "sandbox game" implies hours upon hours of nonstop fun; making a "sandbox game" that short is criminal!
 

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Spirultima said:
wgreer25 said:
It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.
Ah, I see your a halo-bashing sony fan-boy, nice to meet you.
Btw, there's a reason halo 3 outsold any ps3 ever made, it was more fun.
Ah, look who is a hypocrite, i actually own both consoles, well did, i sold my 360 a few months ago, Halo was fun on multiplayer alone, story was bad, gameplay was bad, the only thing i actually liked was the get away part in the warthog.

I can name many PS3 games i prefer to play, and im not going into "my console is better" because i not that childish to talk to a fanboy about such matters.

Also Halo 3 is a game, not a whole console so, that really doesn't count, but if you want to talk price, buy a 360 and halo 3, cheaper then PS3, buy a 360 halo 3, wireless dongle and subscription to xbox live, more expensive.

Now if your going to talk unbiased, accurately, and truthfully, i'll talk, otherwise, shh.
 

scarbunny

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Mazty said:
scarbunny said:
No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.
Hello fanboy.
Sorry, but the PS3 has almost all the games the 360 has, and exclusives such as Killzone, Motorstorm, Resistance, LBP, MGS4 and Uncharted fill up the exclusive list.
The bullcrap that is "The ps3 has no games" just doesn't fly anymore.
Move along troll, just pitchforks and torches here, no bridge.
Not a troll or a fanboy but someone with a different perspective, the PS3 has lots of games I agree, but it has few exclusives, and unfortunately for everyone seems to be losing them faster than the Xbox is. True the Xbox doesn't have that many exclusive to begin with but it doesn’t seem to be losing them (I say seem as I haven’t seen many widely publicised occurrences). If I really wanted to troll I would have just said “of course its crap it’s a PS3 game”.

Generally this generation is more homogenised and I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years we see them working together on a single console as exclusive become harder to come by. It just makes sense for everyone involved to be working towards the same goal, development cost spread over 3 companies, only one console for the consumer to fork over cash for, only one console to programme for. Just seems better all round to me.
 

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BolognaBaloney said:
g805ge said:
Spirultima said:
wgreer25 said:
Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.
It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.
Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread
Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.
It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.