I think inFamous is overrated.

[Spirultima]

No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.

Hello fanboy.
Sorry, but the PS3 has almost all the games the 360 has, and exclusives such as Killzone, Motorstorm, Resistance, LBP, MGS4 and Uncharted fill up the exclusive list.
The bullcrap that is "The ps3 has no games" just doesn't fly anymore.
Move along troll, just pitchforks and torches here, no bridge.

Not a troll or a fanboy but someone with a different perspective, the PS3 has lots of games I agree, but it has few exclusives, and unfortunately for everyone seems to be losing them faster than the Xbox is. True the Xbox doesn't have that many exclusive to begin with but it doesn’t seem to be losing them (I say seem as I haven’t seen many widely publicised occurrences). If I really wanted to troll I would have just said “of course its crap it’s a PS3 game”.

Generally this generation is more homogenised and I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years we see them working together on a single console as exclusive become harder to come by. It just makes sense for everyone involved to be working towards the same goal, development cost spread over 3 companies, only one console for the consumer to fork over cash for, only one console to programme for. Just seems better all round to me.

Name me a good xbox exclusive that will not end up on PC, you win if you can name 6.

/thread

 

[BolognaBaloney]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

 

[scarbunny]

No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.

Hello fanboy.
Sorry, but the PS3 has almost all the games the 360 has, and exclusives such as Killzone, Motorstorm, Resistance, LBP, MGS4 and Uncharted fill up the exclusive list.
The bullcrap that is "The ps3 has no games" just doesn't fly anymore.
Move along troll, just pitchforks and torches here, no bridge.

Not a troll or a fanboy but someone with a different perspective, the PS3 has lots of games I agree, but it has few exclusives, and unfortunately for everyone seems to be losing them faster than the Xbox is. True the Xbox doesn't have that many exclusive to begin with but it doesn’t seem to be losing them (I say seem as I haven’t seen many widely publicised occurrences). If I really wanted to troll I would have just said “of course its crap it’s a PS3 game”.

Generally this generation is more homogenised and I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years we see them working together on a single console as exclusive become harder to come by. It just makes sense for everyone involved to be working towards the same goal, development cost spread over 3 companies, only one console for the consumer to fork over cash for, only one console to programme for. Just seems better all round to me.

Name me a good xbox exclusive that will not end up on PC, you win if you can name 6.

/thread

Ninja Gaiden
Project Gotham Racing 1 and 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Crimson Skies High Road to Revenge
Forza Motor Sport
Top Spin

Also Gears Of War 2

 

[Vrex360]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

How the hell do we end up having a huge flame war about Halo 3 in a thread about Infamous?????? Christ no matter where I go I can't seem to escape it. See I don't look for Halo Hate to attack, it finds me.
This is more directed at Spiraltuma then you BolognaBoloney so sorry if this post seemed offensive.

 

[Spirultima]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

How long has it been out, mein Freund.

 

[Zeraki]

This is kind of funny, someone is trying to review a video game and it becomes a console dick waving contest.

 

[Spirultima]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

So? because it outsells something doesn't make it better, the xbox outsells PS3, but doesn't make it any better of a console, the PS2 outsells the PS3 and xbox, doesn't make it any better of a console. Quality over quantity.

 

[Spirultima]

No if they were to do that they would make a sandbox game where you had superpowers and karmatic choices. Oh wait.

It seems like any game that is half decent becomes a must have game on the PS3, but I guess that is because when there are so few games the best of the bunch seem all the better. Not that the PS3 is bad just its taking a while to get into its stride, maybe to long? I think this year will be make or break for the PS3.

What’s that I hear? The sound of the PS3 defence force?

I'm pretty sure indigo_dingo told me that the choices would be very grey and have far reaching implications that were not obvious to begin with.

Hello fanboy.
Sorry, but the PS3 has almost all the games the 360 has, and exclusives such as Killzone, Motorstorm, Resistance, LBP, MGS4 and Uncharted fill up the exclusive list.
The bullcrap that is "The ps3 has no games" just doesn't fly anymore.
Move along troll, just pitchforks and torches here, no bridge.

Not a troll or a fanboy but someone with a different perspective, the PS3 has lots of games I agree, but it has few exclusives, and unfortunately for everyone seems to be losing them faster than the Xbox is. True the Xbox doesn't have that many exclusive to begin with but it doesn’t seem to be losing them (I say seem as I haven’t seen many widely publicised occurrences). If I really wanted to troll I would have just said “of course its crap it’s a PS3 game”.

Generally this generation is more homogenised and I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next few years we see them working together on a single console as exclusive become harder to come by. It just makes sense for everyone involved to be working towards the same goal, development cost spread over 3 companies, only one console for the consumer to fork over cash for, only one console to programme for. Just seems better all round to me.

Name me a good xbox exclusive that will not end up on PC, you win if you can name 6.

/thread

Ninja Gaiden
Project Gotham Racing 1 and 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Crimson Skies High Road to Revenge
Forza Motor Sport
Top Spin

Also Gears Of War 2

I said GOOD Ninja Gaiden 2, fair enough, but that wasn't better then say...LBP

Gotham racing is just an everyday racing game, nothing really that special, doesn't beat Motorstorm

Forza i have never heard of, and i play everything, so it can't be better then Resistance

Top Spin is tennis, and that isn't an exclusive either.

and the rest i have no idea about.

 

[Vrex360]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

So? because it outsells something doesn't make it better, the xbox outsells PS3, but doesn't make it any better of a console, the PS2 outsells the PS3 and xbox, doesn't make it any better of a console. Quality over quantity.

NO! STOP! DO NOT KEEP CONTINUING THE FLAME WAR, END ALL ARGUMENTS AND LET THE THREAD BE!!

 

[BolognaBaloney]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

So? because it outsells something doesn't make it better, the xbox outsells PS3, but doesn't make it any better of a console, the PS2 outsells the PS3 and xbox, doesn't make it any better of a console. Quality over quantity.

Quality won.

 

[Spirultima]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

/Thread

Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

So? because it outsells something doesn't make it better, the xbox outsells PS3, but doesn't make it any better of a console, the PS2 outsells the PS3 and xbox, doesn't make it any better of a console. Quality over quantity.

Your profile pic is shameful.

Oh no, i feel offended, what ever can i do? oh thats right, so?

 

[Spirultima]

Now this is not meant to start a flamewar or a fanboy outrage. I am just very upset by all the glorious reviews this game got. I don't think it is that deserving.

Now I'll list the good first (I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible).

It is fun, yes. It is pretty, yes. Very good graphics for a true sandbox game. The electrical effects are great looking. Some very minor graphical glitches, but nothing as bad a Fable 2. I did get stuck in the level more than once, but I can forgive that. The city has three islands, and there is very little diference between the three other than the major set pieces (tower, police station, etc...), but the city is neet. The Karma system isn't great in that your options are either save an old lady or eat a box of kittens (there is not grey area), but it does give you some replayability to play the other side. Movement around the city is fun. Riding the rails or wires is cool as well as your little thrusters.

That is the good... now for the bad...

The Karma system leaves no room for the middle ground, if you want to advance and level up, you have to be either a saint or a devil, your experince means nothing if you are neutral. That is not really a big problem, but it does break the whole karma down to two polor opposites and those are your only choice. This is not my biggest gripe.

Here is what really bothers me... this game is a shooter. Your weapons are pistol, grenages, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle. You've got freaking lightning hands, couldn't you come up with some better attacks? You have a mechanic that could lend to some really imaginative gameplay, and you had to resort to the same BS that every shooter has. Shame on you Sucker Punch. I could sit down for an hour and come up with better weapon mechanics than they did.

Lastly, it is short. If you are going to call it a sand box game, you are going to be compared to other good sandbox games like Saints Row and GTA. Each of those games has over 50 hours of gameplay. I beat this game in under 20 (which is long by today's standards... sadly). The side missions vary, but they are all really short. Yeah, you can extend gameplay by playing as your polar opposite, but that means you are playing the same game with diffent decisions... twice. I was just expecting more I guess.

Now this is obviously my opinion and everyone has their own opinions, but I have a real issue with all the uber high reviews this game has gotten. With PS3 coming up 3rd (and sometimes 4th) in the console wars, I am wondering if these reviewers saw a slighly better than average exclusive overrated it to "help them out". I don't really like number rating systems, but I would have to say that this is not a 9/10 game.

It was fun, i had very low expectations, but it isn't a great game.

Also Halo 3 was horrific but it got perfect scores and reviews.

Best source of information for a game, Friends.

Screw game reviewers who have opinions. Halo 3 is one of the worst FPS ever made! Its up there with Daikatana!

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Hmmm... that must be why it's sold 9.67 million copies, because it's so awful.

It sold because Halo was the only fun game (aside from Fable) that was for the original xbox, thats why its so famous.

That's ignorance, pure and simple. Not that many copies would sell if that was the case. It was a fun game, did it deserve perfect scores? No, but it was a lot of fun, and outsells anything sony can throw at it.

So? because it outsells something doesn't make it better, the xbox outsells PS3, but doesn't make it any better of a console, the PS2 outsells the PS3 and xbox, doesn't make it any better of a console. Quality over quantity.

NO! STOP! DO NOT KEEP CONTINUING THE FLAME WAR, END ALL ARGUMENTS AND LET THE THREAD BE!!

You know what, there is no point to continue it, each to there own i guess, so agreed.

 

[Xerosch]

Jesus Christ! Why is it that nowadays everyone spends time whining about things that failed to meet their expectations instead of doing things they like?

 

[Spirultima]

Get a haircut.

-Shrugs- i should listen to you...why? until you can get hair longer then you arm, you can shut up ^.^

 

[HyenaThePirate]

Actually I think Kotor and Jade Empire did a good job of giving "karma game play" a nicer balance where you could seemingly take a more middle ground approach to things with little insignificant decisions adding up over time to push you one way or the other...