I think it is only my duty as a gamer...

[squid5580]

You could have mentioned it is about Prototype.

it was a given

Not before I stumbled into this thread I thought I was going to find something thought provoking or interesting. If the thread had been titled "Another Prototype Clone Thread" maybe a few of my brain cells might not have jumped off the cliff in an effort to make the hurting stop.

 

[ffxfriek]

...It looks terrible...
A few gimmicky combos/moves and call it a game?
It looks like another half assed console release.

this.....

 

[davidboring]

It actually made me want it less.

This.

 

[davidboring]

Uhhh... no.

This is my prediction for Prototype:
I'll download the demo and it will be neato, but ultimately just a shallow, button mashing, 3D sandbox with nowhere to go and no real challenge. I'll put it on my mental list of games to rent, but never actually rent it. Six months later, I see it used at Gamestop for $18 bucks. I buy it, beat it in two days and return it for full price.

I was going to make a serious post but seems like I'm too late. Well done internets, you've done my job for me today. Now back to my cool ranch Doritos...

 

[DrunkenKitty]

Im SoRy WuZ i SpoSed tO Spe11 StuFF LieK an EgL1sh M4J0r>??
Oh, and it's not a review because i have not played the game yet. I was only commenting on the video.

Nothing wrong with the spelling, I was just pointing out that the word "gameplay" much like "podcast" and "blog" is not needed, and you should provide your own personal definition of the world, so that I can follow your argument.

Dude...

Regardless what Webster and the spellchecker(Yeah, I know this isn't a word either.) think, if you don't recognize 'gameplay' as a word and understand the very commonly accepted definition, then you're not a gamer and you forfeit your right to an opinion on anything game related.

Words like gameplay, spellchecker, blog, and podcast exist but are not 'real words' because do-nothing English snobs can't keep up with the pace at which language, culture, and technology evolve. We're not writing for old people reading Reader's Digest. We're posting on a gaming forum. We're not going to define the word 'gameplay' every time we use it.

impactsickness is saying the game doesn't look very deep or challenging and I must say I agree with him.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Looks like a good game but probably won't have much depth to it. I'm thinking it will be a bit like Destroy All Humans which is fun for a while but gets old quite quickly. And it won't have the humour of DAH (Yes, I actually find it funny, deal with it) so meh I guess we'll have to wait and see it will probably be a solid rental.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

Then please, define "gameplay", because I still haven't found the definition.
It is like searching for the meaning of life.

I call "blogs" websites or online journals, because that is what they are.

I call "podcasts" audio files, because that is what they are.

Ask me later and I'll tell you about a neato site called google...


Definition of 'gameplay' from wikipedia:

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Gameplay includes all player experiences during the interaction with game systems, especially formal games. Proper use is coupled with reference to "what the player does". Arising alongside game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. The term game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Current academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics[citation needed] specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

Despite criticism, the term gameplay has gained acceptance in popular gaming nomenclature, being the only common phrase describing the quality of player engagement or how "fun" the game is. The primary aspects of gameplay are the challenges the game presents to players, and the actions that players may take in response to those challenges. Some gaming reviews give a specific score for gameplay, along with graphics, sound, and replay value. Many consider "gameplay" to be the most important indicator of the quality of a game.

A review of the game design literature reveals that among computer and video game developers there are numerous definitions. Examples include:

* "A series of interesting choices." - Sid Meiers
* The structures of player interaction with the game system and with other players in the game." - Patterns in Game Design (2005) Bjork, S. & Holopainen, J.
* "One or more causally linked series of challenges in a simulated environment." - Andrew Rollings and Ernest Adams on Game Design (2003) Rollings, A. & Adams, E.
* "A good game is one that you can win by doing the unexpected and making it work." - Game Architecture and Design (2000) Rollings, A. & Morris, D.

Definition of 'blog' from wikipedia:

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A blog (a contraction of the term weblog) is a type of website, usually maintained by an individual with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video. Entries are commonly displayed in reverse-chronological order. "Blog" can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.

Many blogs provide commentary or news on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, Web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability for readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of many blogs. Most blogs are primarily textual, although some focus on art (artlog), photographs (photoblog), sketches (sketchblog), videos (vlog), music (MP3 blog), audio (podcasting), which are part of a wider network of social media. Micro-blogging is another type of blogging, one which consists of blogs with very short posts. As of December 2007, blog search engine Technorati was tracking more than 112 million blogs.[1] With the advent of video blogging, the word blog has taken on an even looser meaning ? that of any bit of media wherein the subject expresses his opinion or simply talks about something.

Definition of 'podcast' from wikipedia:

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A podcast is a series of digital media files, usually digital, audio, or video, that is made available for download via web syndication. The syndication aspect of the delivery is what differentiates podcasts from other files that are accessed by simple download or by streaming: it means that special client software applications known as podcatchers (such as Apple Inc.'s iTunes or Nullsoft's Winamp) can automatically identify and retrieve new files when they are made available, by accessing a centrally-maintained web feed that lists all files associated with a particular podcast. The files thus automatically downloaded are then stored locally on the user's computer or other device, for offline use.

Like the term broadcast, podcast can refer either to the content itself or to the method by which the content is syndicated; the latter is also called podcasting. A podcaster is the person who creates the content.

The term is a portmanteau of the words "iPod" and "broadcast",[1] the Apple iPod being the brand of portable media player for which early podcasting scripts were developed (see history of podcasting), allowing podcasts to be automatically transferred from a personal computer to a mobile device after they are downloaded.[2] Despite the source of the name, it has never been necessary to use an iPod, or any other form of portable media player, to use podcasts; the content can be accessed using any computer capable of playing media files.[3] As more mobile devices other than iPods became able to synchronize with podcast feeds, a backronym developed where podcast stood for "Personal On Demand broadCAST."

 

[Grimm91]

I am not excited.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Not another one...

 

[DrunkenKitty]

I was pointing out that terms that "blog" and "podcast" are not needed, because audio files are audio files, and online journals are online journals. No need introducing new words.

I am afraid that I cannot accept Wikipedia as a source either, sorry.

I agree that the word blog isn't really needed. 'Web log' or 'online journal' would be just fine.

Podcasts can also be video files. The word 'podcast' specifically indicates how the media file is distributed. You must admit that there's a substantial difference between a music mp3 just sitting on your computer and a media file that's published for free on a regular basis and downloaded by thousands of subscribers. 'Media file' is an accurate description of a podcast, but it's also an incomplete definition because it excludes the cultural significance and means of distribution that distinguish it as a podcast. It's like saying I have a pet mammal rather than saying I have a German Shepard.

Gameplay is a new word, but it has a universal and commonly accepted definition. It exists because it was needed.

Wikipedia is the greatest encyclopedia probably because of the very reason you won't accept it as a source. It's updated by people who care about their page as much as you care about semantics.

I challenge you to find something factually incorrect on wikipedia.

 

[XJ-0461]

It looks very...immature would be the word I supose. The video seems to be saying "LOOKY HERE! WE'S GOT BLOOD! AND MONSTERS! AND YOU CAN JUMP RLLY RLLY HIGH!". That doesn't appeal to me, personally.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

Too much violence, not enough of everything else. That's the impression I got from that video.

Hmmm would you prefer if maybe the game had some fetch quests? How about an escort mission or a dating sim minigame? It's an action game, violence is all there is to it.

No. No. No.

Most games are violent. Being violent doesn't eliminate the need for challenging, rewarding, and deep game mechanics(Winks at Frederick2003). There's a very important distinction between Dead or Alive and Tekken even though they're both violent.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

I am not an expert on all fields of human knowledge, and I don't have that kind of time. Try using Wikipedia as an academic source and see what happens.

I don't like the "word" gameplay because it is too simplistic, and I still don't have a definition. From what I can gather though, it's something like "the overall experience one has when playing a game" is that correct?

The problem is, game debates turn out like this.

"This game has bad gameplay."
"This game is better because it has good gameplay."
"This game has better gameplay than yours."
"HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE GAMIEST GAMEPLAY GAME I'VE EVER GAMED!!!"

First if all, people can say stupid vague shit with 'real words' too, so I don't see your point.

Here's an article talking about wikipedia's growing level of acceptance in the academic world:
http://digitalscholarship.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/is-wikipedia-becoming-a-respectable-academic-source/

Secondly, you should check wikipedia's page on academic use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

Wikipedia states that should not cite wikipedia as a source but rather cite the sources that the wikipedia poster has earmarked. Wikipedia remains a great resource to find citations on a specific topic from sites that contain things like .edu and .gov. If you had to research a recent cultural phenomon like 'rickrolling', it remains to be one of your best options.

I'd also like to point out that you cited two angry-rant-comedy-blogs to back yourself up.

You also admit that it would take you a significant amount of time to find something incorrect on wikipedia.

I remember an Encyclopedia Britannica entry on Hitler that began: "Adolph Hitler is one of the most evil men in world history." That's hardly subjective and unbiased.

If you really wanna argue semantics, it might be more interesting to talk about how:
"A seagull is not a bird."
"Black is not a color."
"Zero is not a number."

 

[Valiance]

I get the feeling I'd like this game more if every time I walk into Gamestop it didn't have radio ads for it.

 

[Computer-Noob]

Its like a God of war, Spiderman, GTA, RE hybrid

 

[Computer-Noob]

Uhhh... no.

This is my prediction for Prototype:
I'll download the demo and it will be neato, but ultimately just a shallow, button mashing, 3D sandbox with nowhere to go and no real challenge. I'll put it on my mental list of games to rent, but never actually rent it. Six months later, I see it used at Gamestop for $18 bucks. I buy it, beat it in two days and return it for full price.

THIS game is already becoming the sleeper console hit of 2009:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=demon%27s+souls&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=4VEIStaxNY7msgPt8IzfBg&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

Demon's Souls is the game that's finally convinced a friend that's been putting off buying a PS3 since MGS4.

Wait for it. Watch the game turn out to be a linear-environment world, and a total hack n slash game.

At first I was cringing at the thought that it would be made by square enix, at which point you'd know the game will turn out to be shit. Then I realized that if that were true then the trailer would probably have tons of crappy dialog.