I want drug users, smokers, alcoholics to explain this to me (seriously)

[joshthor]

im against drugs, but drinking and smoking are both social things. i dont smoke alot, and only cigars, but when i do its usually in a group of people talking on a porch or something. drinking is also a social activity, and can lower your inhabitions a little bit.

 

[velcrokidneyz]

i dont drink much cuz i hate the getting sick part, cigarettes are just idk, they mellow me out. maybe not for everyone. and for "Other" stuff, i have used MJ and i highly recommend that everyone try it at least once unless your allergic or something (one of my good friends is). It has helped me through a couple rough spots and some depression. its not the same for everyone but i thoroughly enjoy it.

all of these things are ecperienced differently by everyone and i for one dont peer pressure anyone, and its one of those things that if you are compelled to try it you are and if not you just dont. kinda the you get it or you dont excuse. kinda a cop out but its true.

 

[kalaim]

I'm not gonna talk about all the drug i have taken (except for heroine), all the smoke i inhaled willingly, all the booze i drank for almost seven years (not full time, please ).

I'm just gonna thank all the guys who posted words from the Prophet Bill Hicks.


"life's just a ride in the amusement park of the universe"

Honestly, and I'm not trying to defend anything here, but the phrase "Don't knock it until you try it." comes to mind.

Amen to that

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Depends what you're doing really, extremes are bad in most walks of life, but in moderation...

Smoking weed is absolutely fine, not so much other drugs however, even in moderation they can fuck you up pretty bad. Drinking is absolutely fine in moderation, if you think otherwise you're just being silly. I smoke occasionally if someone offers me a smoke but never do enough to get addicted or start craving one.

But if you're a drug addict, chain smoker, or alcoholic, then yeah of course thats pretty bad. But that goes without saying doesnt it?

Plus, all these things have social value, call that peer pressure all you like but its not.

 

[CL4P-TP]

I smoke the herb on a regular basis, but I have kind of stopped understanding why I keep it up. A workmate of mine told me that he stopped doing drugs because once he stopped, he noticed life was no different. Perhaps less expensive.

Still, natural highs are something I would recommend to anyone that hasn't tried it, because (in my opinion) you only live once, and you may as well do as much crazy sh!t as you possibly can before you cark it. Just don't let it become -too- fun. I think I may have missed the topic completely.

 

[azukar]

You're not going to get many real, honest and true, correct responses in this thread. Do people really know why they drink, smoke, take drugs?

 

[cfb_rolley]

I'm 21 years old (just about 22 at this point), I've never once smoked or done drugs, I barely ever drink and have never been drunk. I don't want to criticize those who partake in those activities and if you come into this topic expecting to do that, please go elsewhere.

I just want to know why you chose to do it. It's widely known now that the benefits of those things are temporary but they could ruin your lives fairly easily. It just seems like there is absolutely no good reason for doing drugs, or smoking, or drinking in excess. I know some people are addicted, and that sucks because that's tough for anyone to overcome. Some I know are self-destructive; they know it's bad but they do it anyway apparently because they just don't care.

But I know I can't truly know why because I've never experienced it myself, so I want to understand. Please, if you want to, give me your honest reasons for doing what you do so I can understand where you're coming from even if I don't agree with it.

I'm a year older than you, and, I used to drink heavily, occasionally smoke, and partake in other kinds of smoking...

but over the last year or so I've almost totally quit all of those things. Why? because of the side effects. drinking was awesome fun when I was around 17 or 18, but because I used to drink hard every weekend my body can't take it anymore. If I get hammered, I usually vomit, then spend the next day trying not to even move my eyeballs because it hurts too much. I can't go ride freestyle bmx if I'm like that, so I've cut back.

I tried smoking and...

Smoking has no benefits It just tricks your brain into believing in a calming effect.

And you can't ride fast if you can't breathe well. Cigars, however, taste really good, especially vanilla ones, so I still go one every now and then. same goes for the other kind of smoking, makes things... fun. but There's no way I'd throw away riding for it.

I did used to be heavily addicted to energy drinks. That's one thing that has done the most damage to my body and was hardest to give up. Nose bleeds, irregular heart beat, kidney infections, the unfunction of your brain when you don't have any, I don't care what red bull says about it enhancing your mental state, it screws you internals big time.

anyway, I gave it all up, or at least stopped doing any of it all the time because it's not worth ruining your body. I get bigger kicks out of doing flips on my bike. I'm not kidding, it actually is better than drugs.

 

[kalaim]

You're not going to get many real, honest and true, correct responses in this thread. Do people really know why they drink, smoke, take drugs?

Some do, i know why i did take drugs and i'm sure more people can explain it too.

Someone wrote some posts away : "As I've told people in life: "I don't need alcohol to enhance my life; I simply use it to do so."

But i think it's most a "do not want to" than a "can't" issue.

 

[ThisIsSnake]

I've never smoked and I'm teetotal.

I need to stay completely in control of my actions at all times, anything that removes my control is dangerous for me. As for smoking, I've watched someone die from emphysema after smoking for half their life and I personally has nasty asthma so I wouldn't do that either.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Because I enjoy the state I get put in from drinking or smoking pot from time to time.

 

[azukar]

Someone wrote some posts away : "As I've told people in life: "I don't need alcohol to enhance my life; I simply use it to do so."
But i think it's most a "do not want to" than a "can't" issue.

Which still sounds too contrite to be an answer, but oh well. It looks good written on a post, at least.

 

[Kraj]

I smoke, mostly because I've always, even from a young age, liked the idea of smoking, and have a bit of an oral fixation, I enjoy it from the sound of the zippo flint and the hiss of the first drag to the sizzle of the cherry being crushed into the damp ground "or ash tray". Actually most people are surprised when they realize I smoke, considering my hobbies are usually counter intuitive for a smoker. "Swimming, hitting the gym and martial arts".
I have tried a few other drugs, but the reason I don't do any of them is simple. They affect my cognitive processes too much.
If I can't think, I feel ill. I just hate the idea of messing with that.
Also; unfortunately most of the people I've met who partake in substances which change your perceptions and judgment, aren't the kind of people I'd choose to spend my time with even sober.

 

[Hosker]

Most people start those things from social influence, and continue them through social influence and the fact they find them enjoyable. People want to be liked. If you are going out with friends and they are all drinking to get drunk, you do not want to be the only one not drinking: it's not fun, and makes you feel left out. Conversely, you don't want to be the only drunk one with friends who are all sober.

 

[Tipsy Giant]

I am about to smoke a FATTY cos I had my tooth pulled out and weed is the only painkiller thats working for me

 

[OutforEC]

That's interesting, on a rare occasion if I smoke too much hash I have a similar paraniod experience, except instead of my parents yelling at me it's myself. I once had an experience where I literally was hallucinating a song called "He's the most pathetic guy in the world" some joke thing that I would do, but I was singing it to myself. Paranoia is a *****.

Yeah, this is the reason I don't do LSD or weed anymore. My mind literally can't handle it, and 'splits' into different realities. It's ok for about 5 minutes, but then I panic because I don't know which reality is the 'correct' one. Eventually the paranoia sets in and I begin having to do things like remind myself to keep breathing, concentrate on not swallowing my tongue, and ensure that when they find my body I'm not in an awkward or embarassing position. Everyone is watching, talking, laughing, and nobody is helping.

I've been deployed in military operations in Saudi Arabia, Grenada, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, the Republic of Georgia, and Afghanistan. I've seen the best and the worst that humanity has to offer. And I can honestly say that nothing is as scary to me as what happens to my mind on hallucinogens.

 

[MoNKeyYy]

I don't get smoking. I've tried it once and it was the singular most disgusting thing I've ever tasted in my life. As for the health issues well, it's your body and I'm basically a libertarian so do what you want. I understand the addiction though, kind of. Once you get addicted it's difficult to stop.

Drugs I understand a bit more. I've never partaken in that particular vice, nor do I have any ambition of the sort, but again I understand that some poeple find it fun. The addiction here is as bad as tobacco though, and with several times the "Permenantly fuck up your life" potential.

As for drinking, I get to directly answer your question and say it's fun (IMO). It tastes good (IMO). If you have a problem, it helps you let loose and forget about it (IMO, though I would never advocate it and have only ever twice used drinking as a form of escapism, something I'm actually rather ashamed of). Bottom line is though, it's fun to get together with a bunch of friends or go to a party and get absolutely sloshed on a couple 2-6's of Capt'n Mo's....IMO.

 

[9thRequiem]

The question I have for people who've never tried either drinking or smoking : Why not?

I can understand not trying drugs, because of the illegal, and for some a single try you could die, but personally, I like to know I've tried out the options before I make a decision.

 

[Adremmalech]

I'm 23 years old and I'm building my liquor shelf. I have a large shelf in my bedroom with:
Jameson Whisky, Baileys, Kailua, Gin, Tequila, Rum, Vodka, Strawberry Vodka, Vermouth, some Root Beer Schnapps, and some sweeteners like Grenadine. Garnishes are in the fridge.
That's still growing, and I'm trying a new mixed drink every week. Last week was different kinds of Martinis (Gin, Vodka, Apple...). This week, the Manhattan.

I started my collection from an image of a manly-man having not only a good liquor collection, but a knowledge of every classic drink, several party drinks, and a few unique ones with stories behind them.

 

[Vrach]

Some I know are self-destructive; they know it's bad but they do it anyway apparently because they just don't care.

You've got the definition of self destructive wrong. It's not that you don't care, it's when you literally want to do harm to yourself.

Anyway, personally I drink when I feel like it. I don't get drunk off my arse, but I'm not opposed to it, just haven't had the right company/situations for it yet (mind you, I wouldn't turn it into a habit anyway, it would just be a "once in a blue moon thing"). I drink because I like the taste of alcohol, I like the feel of slight inebriation and I like getting my inhibitions down in certain situations.

I'm not a smoker. I've tried cigarettes recently, my ex was a smoker so I figured let's see what it's about (plus I wanted to know how to smoke as I have an intention to try pot at some point). Personally I found them boring. I've gotten us some Cuban cigars and those were much better than any brand of normal cigs imo. Note that I didn't have an intention of becoming a smoker one way or another - it was just an experience thing, wanted to know what it was like.

I haven't tried any drugs to date. It was just never appealing and I was raised with a "drugs are bad, mkay?" attitude, seeing the effects on some other people and not liking it. In recent years, I've learned a lot more about pot and I figured I want to try it to know what it's like. Again, it's not gonna be something I'm gonna be doing on a regular basis, just want to experience it.

 

[viranimus]

When you say dangerous, in what way do you mean dangerous?

Interesting side note, LSD has been used to treat schizophrenia. Very successfully in some cases and as far as I can tell hasn't done lasting damage. Psychiatric academics really, really, very much want LSD as a treatment option for those with severe mental and neurological damage. Not gonna write a full page disclaimer about its uses, just going to assume no one here is an idiot and they understand that my point is responsible and intentionally targeted use may very well be a very good thing.

You can see I'm implying professional and controlled circumstances here; not advocating it as a home remedy for anything.

Well Acid (LSD + Speed/amphetamine) is dangerous for a couple of reasons. First and foremost once it is in your system it will be with you for the rest of your life and is detectable in your spinal fluid. It also is speculated at causing spinal nerve damage though long term research on it is spotty at best.

As far as the experience of the drug, One of the biggest things Acid does is it amplifies what is in your head. In the mind of a normal happy go lucky individual Acid can be a load of laughs and a truly existential and mind blowing experience. However in the mind of someone who is thought processes are not normal to begin with, Or someone who is highly prone to fear it can cause those fears to feel as if they are more real and more intense than they ever would be under normal circumstances. There have been documented cases of not even overdose levels in first time users of inciting heart attacks while under the influence of Acid based purely on the drug amplifying their thoughts and fears.

As for schizophrenia you have to understand the nature of why LSD (not the specific acid recipe) is used in the treatment of Schizophrenics. Schizos invariably have fundamental flaws in the way their brains process information and stimulus. What we see as a cat walking by to a schizo would be the four horsemen of the apocalypses. The swings can be that severe or they can be quite mild. The idea of using LSD is because LSD also causes the brain to reconfigure the way it processes info and stimuli. The concept was if the schizo brain was already processing Info and stimuli incorrectly its possible that a drug that induces similar effects might possibly right those thought processes. It is possible and in some documented cases it works. However, the potential for disaster here is immense. Because it can take someone who did not process Info & stimuli correctly in a benign manner and make their delusions wild, ominous, sinister or even malevolent. That is part of the reason why the use of LSD as a treatment option in schizophrenia has fallen out of use in favor of more stable and controllable anti psychotic medications.

So.. Long and short of it, it can be a great and beneficial experience for the people who are capable of handling it and need it, but it can also be dangerous, damaging and even deadly.

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