If Final Fantasy Seven WERE to get remade...

[Pebkio]

However, that 'illusion' was able to physically change things in the world- see the Shin-ra massacre, and the boat to Costa-del Sol. The first Palmer said that Sephiroth came and murdered the hell out of the President, and the second we see Sephiroth's ghost/illusion thing, and then he drops Jenova on you.

That reminds me! Jenova battles should be treated as a bigger deal than in the original. It should be handled with a piece of Jenova infecting a nearby Sephiroth Clone (we wouldn't even have to know the person was a "clone") and becoming a monster... instead of just the piece being a monster in the fight.

Edit: That could mean that each time you fight Jenova there was a Sephiroth clone involved.

That guy in red on the ship (who was the last one standing): Sephiroth Clone who killed everyone in Shinra's tower.

The guy who throws a materia at cloud: Sephiroth Clone who (fine) kills Aeris.

The guy who kills all of those other Sephiroth Clones at the northern crater: Sephiroth Clone.

The final Jenova fight: That Sephiroth Clone that went missing from his tube outside Aeris' house (y'know with the number 2).

 

[Odbarc]

I went back and played 7 a couple of times. It's not THAT GREAT of a game. Mechanically, it's very boring.
I was able to speed through it with an emulator and all I needed was regan>all & fight. Everything else was mana inefficient. They'd have to redo the entire game.
Knowing all the secrets in the first play-through when it was originally released just makes all the mini-games tedious chores. I don't WANT to wear a dress or be 'chosen' by Cornelio, why am I going through that entire segment that takes an hour of basically doing nothing just to continue the story?
Plus all the unnecessary end-game stuff like large materia chunks, Knights of the Round, Gold Chocobos takes forever. Sure it's cool, but you waste hours on it and you can beat the game without it.

The story was good. Probably the best FF has offered but remaking it would be dumb and a waste of money.

What we could use is another Final Fantasy Tactics (not that GBA kiddy rip off) dedicated to a console launch.

FF-(Whatever-number has Lightning) was too convoluted to keep me interested enough to get to that (what was it? ...) 20th hour "now the game gets fun" mark people mentioned?
FF-Vaan with it's MMO styling failed to encourage me to complete that story either.

 

[Arqus_Zed]

... but I think her death should be ambiguously shown and it comes out that Cloud killed her.

so its not yust me that know dead bodies float.

Okay, they ignored five different rules of physics there anyway, the body not floating didn't bother me. No no, what I meant was: Since Sephiroth was, pretty much, an illusion until released by Cloud in the Northern Crater (spoiler alert); then, even though everyone saw Sephy kill Aeris... it was really Cloud stabbing her in the back.

Wait... What?

I...

What?!

As far as I know, Cloud didn't kill Aeris. Sephiroth wasn't an illusion, by the way, it was Jenova who had escaped from the facility (the thing Barret referred to as "headless spook"). Everyone thought Sephiroth stole it, but it was actually the headless body itself that escaped and took the shape of Sephiroth. Later, Jenova leaves parts of herself behind that become bosses (like Jenova LIFE and Jenova DEATH). So, in short, it wasn't Sephiroth that killed Aeris, it wasn't Cloud that killed Aeris, it was Jenova.

On topic, what I would like to see different:

- Graphical update. A serious graphical update, just use the Advent Children models, retopologize them and slap the hi-poly normal maps on there. That should do the trick.

- Audio update. Crisis Core proved that you can have a great FF VII-related soundtrack without the use of MIDI.

- Gameplay update. Battles need to be smoother, if you look at FF X-2 or XIII (ugh...) then you see neither allies nor enemies stand in tidy rows at each side of the battlefield. That's the way to go. And speed things up a little, shorter spells, faster ATB-gauges. Also - and I know not everyone is going to be with me on this one - I'd like to see less exploitable tricks. FF VII and FF VIII are notorious for having shortcuts (Limit Break abuse, card refinement, Master Materia, etc.) that kind of ruins the game. If you don't have it, you're screwed; if you have it, the game just becomes too easy.

- Equipment update. The materia-system was a rather revolutionary way of setting up the spells for your party. Alas, like many "big firsts" it could use a little tuning. Maybe add some extra moves? Or take some inspiration from Crisis Core?

- Story update. The original FF VII story has always had some issues. The fact that they continued to built on a partially broken plot with tons of other games doesn't really help. Time to take a deep breath and sort things ou once and for all.

Last but not least, I'd like to say that, if it were up to me, I'd prefer they DIDN'T make a FF VII remake. Just make a GOOD new FF.

 

[anthony87]

it was really Cloud stabbing her in the back.

What makes you think that?

What makes me think that it should be Cloud that really stabbed her in the back? Even though, in that very same post, I already SAID that Sephiroth was an illusion?

But it wasn't an illusion of Sephiroth. It was Jenova acting through the Sephiroth clones.

Your idea is pretty cool though.

 

[cgentero]

Mostly obviously graphical/audio quality updates.

I would prefer the main story stay the same but I wouldn't mind easter egg references to other FF7 games events.

If SE felt compelled to try and update the combat I would hope it be more like Kingdom Hearts\Crisis Core than FF 12\13. If they do keep turn based I admit there would need to be more interactivity maybe something like Paper Mario.

I'd like to see more Materia options, perhaps quick changeable sets during combat.

I would prefer modding weapons\armor instead having a huge stockpile.

I wouldn't mind voice acting but its not a necessity.

New areas are fine as long as they don't mess with the story.

 

[LittleBlondeGoth]

To get the important bits out of the way first, yes, I know they've said they're not remaking it. But since we're just speculating and this is all harmless fun...

Orchestrate the music: It's a great soundtrack, and having been to a Distant Worlds concert, I can only imagine the awesomeness a fully orchestral score would be.

Voiced characters: I've watched Advent Children (more times than is healthy, admittedly) and I'm fine with the VAs in that. Cid's not quite what I expected him to be, but it doesn't offend me. And frankly I could listen to Steve Blum's Vincent all day if you let me. But while you're at it...

Tidied dialogue: Yeah, "this guy are sick" is iconic in it's own way, but fix the dialogue so people actually make sense.

Graphics: This is the big one isn't it? The characters from VII in the engine of XIII, please. Same goes for the environments. Coming back to reality for a moment, I am fully aware of the amount of work involved in this. Harmless speculation, remember?

Difficulty: Up it. I'm good with boss fights being harder.

Materia: My favourite magic system, I think. It meant the characters were more blank slates than say those of other games, but again, I didn't mind that. And whilst some characters had better limits than others, it got to the point where it didn't really matter. Whoever I used could destroy just about everything in their path, thanks to weapon / accessory combos and materia setups. My general party was Cloud, Vincent, Cid / Tifa for the most part. Cloud because I had to, Cid / Tifa because they were good all rounders and Vincent for personal reasons.

Gameplay: Have a short version of the summon animations. I loved Knights of the Round, but pair it with Mime and Quadra magic and I could go make dinner while that's going on. Do what the later ones did - run the full thing first time, then the cutdown version.

Characters: More Vincent. Again, for personal reasons... But in all seriousness, have the game include them in FMVs where appropriate, if you have them.

 

[demonfridge]

I'd be happy with modern graphics and real orchestra recordings of the OST. And a badass secret dungeon added at the end, Maybe move Ruby and Emerald Weapon into it or make a new and even more powerful Weapon boss to end it off. Maybe some balance tweaks too, nerf some of the summons and shit like quad magic and make the final sephiroth fight much harder.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Changes? Oh my yes.

Update the terrible graphics. Please. They were amazing for the time, but have not aged well.

And can we cut some of the "let's wander around" crap? This game is going to be busting budgets as it is, so let's cut where no one will miss it. Keep the massive set-pieces (train jumps, mako reactor raids, great temples, ancient cities, etc) but cut down on "walk across world map from point A to point B" and "you're lost in a blizzard. Contrats. Enjoy suckyness."

The first few hours of the game in Midgar are some of the best stuff in the game (cross dressing scene, great locations, etc) so keep that mostly intact. Streamline the rest of the exploring, and cut a LOT from the later disks. Disk 2, apart from the Tifa section, I'm looking at you.

Keep the Materia system. It was the most customizable skill system a FF game has ever had - it was one of the things that make that game great. Plus, it should be super easy to program (since the skills are tied to the materia, not the character).

The chocobo stuff could honestly get chucked out the window. If I want to be a horse breeder, I'm sure there are better games for that.

That... I think is about it. Oh, wait. Keep the music, but re-record it with an actual orchestra.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

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Ok stop writing spoiler alert after you give a spoiler you write that before a spoiler. Also we have a new invention of spoiler tags which regardless of old the game is some stuff may not be known to people. So if you are going to bother use actual spoiler tags as in [ spoiler ][ /spoiler ] without the spaces. Secondly,

Spoiler

Sephiroth's will killed Aeris as a Jenova spawn in his form is what came and killed her. It was not an illusion be Jenova can recombine DNA to an extent. So no that was never an illusion but parts of Jenova subject to his will from the North Crater morphed into his shape.

I went back and played 7 a couple of times. It's not THAT GREAT of a game. Mechanically, it's very boring.
I was able to speed through it with an emulator and all I needed was regan>all & fight. Everything else was mana inefficient. They'd have to redo the entire game.
Knowing all the secrets in the first play-through when it was originally released just makes all the mini-games tedious chores. I don't WANT to wear a dress or be 'chosen' by Cornelio, why am I going through that entire segment that takes an hour of basically doing nothing just to continue the story?

You don't have to do any of the extra stuff or get chosen by Cornelio. Just get the wig and the dress and away you go takes about 15 mins. Also if you don't grind or level at all you do tend to need a bit more than regen all but FFVII is known as one of the easier FFs so yes if they do a remake they will have to fiddle around in this area.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Graphical upgrade, a good translation and professional voice acting. Nothing more.
The game is really good as is, its only problem is presentation.

 

[Pebkio]

...Vincent...Vincent...Vincent for personal reasons....Vincent...personal reasons...

-Little Blond Goth

Well, when you pick a theme you certainly stick to it . I hope your other 232 posts are as mind-bendingly awesome as this one. If it isn't obvious, I like your post for personal reasons.

Mostly because you get that I didn't care if this was ever going to happen, but instead was having some harmless fun.

Oh yeah, an actual comment:

You bring up a good point about what the materia ended up doing: making everyone into a blank slate stereotype with a face and a backstory. Materia is what led you to winning the game. Strength is the only real thing the characters might be able to get, but a lot of speed, luck, magic, defense, mp/hp... that was all controlled by the items you use in combat (really shown as there is no STR Up materia... and even that no materia gave a bonus to strength).

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Edit:

Ok stop writing spoiler alert after you give a spoiler you write that before a spoiler. Also we have a new invention of spoiler tags which regardless of old the game is some stuff may not be known to people. So if you are going to bother use actual spoiler tags as in [ spoiler ][ /spoiler ] without the spaces. Secondly,

Spoiler

Sephiroth's will killed Aeris as a Jenova spawn in his form is what came and killed her. It was not an illusion be Jenova can recombine DNA to an extent. So no that was never an illusion but parts of Jenova subject to his will from the North Crater morphed into his shape.

Glade... this game is a billion years old. I was using (spoiler alert) ironically. Also, I was saying what I wanted to see happen. Not what happened.

In the original, some guy who was experimented on by Hojo who's appearance was manipulated by Jenova flew into some underwater bubble thing and killed Aeris in a way that made using phoenix... yawn. Seriously, that's a horrible way to handle the story of her death. I like my example better.

 

[rekabdarb]

Well i would want to say I wouldn't want the game to be remade.

If you watch Checkpoint (ENN, but it's at penny-arcade for some reason) Graham lists EXACT reasons why it shouldn't. Bland main character, didn't give 2 shits when aeris or aerith or dumb whore died. The annoying rts scene, the inbreeding (which was already listed). GO ahead replay the game. Its on PSN for 9.99.

Go buy and play it, i'll wait. Now as someone who has bought... well had my brother bought it, and played it TO THE END, including ruby and emerald's death (they were pretty easy) it was honestly an average game.


BUT again that wouldn't stop me from playing the remade version, much like i'm going to play the remade FF10 when it comes out because i loved 10. And what would i add/change/remove? remove nothing, change how frustrating it was to get a gold chocobo, add more minigames/dungeons that weren't from gold saucer

 

[RagTagBand]

1. Current Gen graphics - I dont care about them being cutting edge but anything is better than looking at squares fighting triangles.

2. Voice acting - If I wanted to read 10 novels worth of text i'd read 10 novels. We grew out of Silent films so I'd like to see us grow out of silent games too.


Really thats it. The plot is good the battle system is good and the materia system was both simple and deep, anyone suggesting it should be "More like this other game" should be soundly ignored. Especially anyone who thinks any part of it should be more like FF8, it's like listening to someone suggest that C-3PO should be more like Jar-Jar binks.

 

[Risingblade]

Add in references to Crisis Core and some new sidequests

 

[snappydog]

To be honest, and very nerdy indeed, my biggest source of joy from that would be the fully orchestrated, new arrangements of the music.

 

[Riddle78]

Another FF VII Remake? Nah. Let that horse die. Maybe a Final Fantasy VIII Remake,or a different version (Anyone else think the Squall and Rinoa romance was fumbled? The Selphie-Irvine relationship was more interesting!). Or,maybe keep away from Final Fantasy alltogether. Maybe a The Legend of Dragoon remake. I,for one,would like to know just what a panicking Meru would sound like,or a very angry Lavitz.

Improved graphics,voice acting,but keep the music. Or else Lohan will lose all of it's charm.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

They can leave it as it is, they just need to throw in support for higher resolutions. I could deal with the PS1 era models if they weren't being stretched and distorted across my screen, whether it's on PSP or my TV.

However if there simply has to be a remake then remastered visuals and soundtrack would come highly on my most wanted list. I absolutely loved the Cloud and Sephiroth models in Dissidia, I'd like to see the rest of the Final Fantasy world in that light. A man can dream can't he?

 

[Pebkio]

Snipped for FFVIII

You are uninvited to this party! You can take your horrible magic draw system, pointless chocobo minigame thing, and linearity-for-no-reason style to an alternate universe.

Seriously though, you could've at least brought up a better FF game... like Three or Tactics.

I don't remember VIII too well, but I think there was this point in the game when you have to run down this hill from a radio tower or something, because if you didn't something would get you and it was instant game over. And not the normal, start over from the top way, but the music and the gunsword in the ground and the "would you like to load a previous save" nonsense. I might be remembering it wrong, but that whole scene made me want to to stop playing for twenty years.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Personally I would like to see a new Breath of Fire game.

this, but Capcom won't make a new one.

its not a fighter or RE or something their TRYING to kill like DMC

also, a new BoF would take talent and brains they just don't have, given they've pretty much killed Mega Man as well