If Obsidian made ___
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Characters would be more complex with obfuscated motives
The game would be buggy and likely have content cut
The story would have strong overarching themes
It would be 10x the game that ME3 was.
The game would be buggy and likely have content cut
The story would have strong overarching themes
It would be 10x the game that ME3 was.
You're not the only one.nikki191 said:
I'd only be worried that it would somehow be even buggier than the first one was on release.
Yeah, you can play an optimal (combat) build. But you'd be doing yourself a disservice unless the combat is truly where the joy in the game is for you (and it's arguably even a disservice then).Saviordd1 said:
I really do tend to make characters for each playthrough of New Vegas and tailor my perks and weapons to suit him/her. Someone might make the argument, "Well it's not really working if you have to gimp your character to have good roleplaying". I'd again just point out that the combat is only one part of the game, and you can make it as small a thing as you want really (take a non-combat build and let your followers do the fighting for you).
Haven't played Space Wizards 3 (haha, it just gets funnier every time I look at it) but I've all of the ending sequences including the extended sequences. I can't believe Bioware had the balls to think that what they added could even be thought of as extended but they can do what they like.Souplex said:
Anyway, If Obsidian had a crack at Space Wizards 3 (ha!) they would have probably made one single ending sequence. What I mean by this is that there would be no big machine and devil child asking you to pick from a variety of endings. There would be one ending where you sacrifice yourself to stop the Reapers. How the Reapers would be stopped would be a calculation based upon how you played the game.
For example, Did you show mercy to synthetics as much as possible? Then you're getting the "Control ending" where synthetics and organics are spared while the Reapers are told to go jump into a black hole. On the other hand, perhaps the decisions you made during the game and the previous game ended with lots and lots of dead Synthetics. Based upon that, you would get the "Destruction ending", which would shut the Reapers down in their tracks along with all AI and the Geth.
Then the rest of the ending would proceed to show you short animatics detailing how everyone else from your team and the galaxy was spending the first year of their lives "post-Reapers". This whole sequences would culminate in a galaxy-wide celebration of the Annual "Day Shepard Saved the Galaxy Day" where the Council(?) and your closest teammates would honor your sacrifice with a speech that either told of what a kind and generous leader you were or what a ruthless and cunning warrior you were (your chances of receiving either speech will be based upon your total Paragon or Renegade points).
Also there would be many complaints of bugs that would be patched over the course of the next two years after the release date.
Well that is something I completely disagree on then. To me, Kotor 1's characters were mostly one-dimensional characters with little to no depth to them, whereas Kotor 2's characters were done incredibly well and were much better integrated into the main plot. Every character had a lot more to them than was visible at first glance and their development was worked out pretty damn well. Hell, Mass Effect has better characters than Kotor does. They're all pretty simple and shallow, but at least Mass Effect's characters have some charisma to them and are able to make you care for them. Just look at Garrus for example. He's simple, but he is one of the biggest bros I've ever seen/had in a game, is very memorable and it's pretty easy to form a emotional connection with the guy.Saviordd1 said:
There is also a reason why Kreia is regarded as one of the very best RPG characters of all time by many.
Also, Kotor 1's story was little more than your above average black and white, good vs evil storyline with a decent plottwist, whereas the second game thankfully completely threw that concept out of the window, let alone the fact that they came up with a plot that completely overthrows everything we knew about Star Wars in a spectacular fashion. Seriously, I still see discussion regarding its plot and new things still keep popping up from time to time. Kotor 1 nearly skipped out on the backstory (The reason behind the events of Kotor 1) and was pretty cut and clear. There's literally nothing noteworthy to it and there's little to talk about when it's done. Also probably one of the most out-of-place endings I've ever seen.
I didn't comment about FONV vs FO3, because I haven't played NV. I was talking about FO3 specifically.Saviordd1 said:
To care about what? I honestly couldn't give the slightest shit about anyone in the entire game, even the ones from your own vault. Sure, they tried to give you a reason to care about what you're doing, but failed miserably at that. And I wasn't just talking about the main plot (as there is very little to it), I'm talking about sub-plots as well. Most of them were pretty badly done, with the occasional gem in between the shitty ones. Overall a lot of missed potential and pretty lazy writing. At the end of the game, I didn't really care about anything or anyone in the game world and finished the emotionally and intellectually unsatisfying game in an unsatisfying manner. But as I said, judging from the rest of their games (Oblivion, Skyrim), I shouldn't have expected much.
Roleplaying is fun, but I need some connection to the world or characters, or else it gets boring really fast.
Ever heard of an opinion? Quality is subjective, by the way.Anthraxus said:
Dungeon Seige 3. It had an interesting leveling system where your power came from your armor and weapons and your skills came from your level but otherwise, it was crap. It didn't blend well. It was Baulders Gate on Xbox/PS2 version. It just had a different leveling system (not better nor worse) with minor ways you could alter the story. I think there was like 5? I didn't care for it anyways.BeeGeenie said:
OT: Arcanum 2. Wouldn't mind if they picked the IP. They could probably improve it even more and it is in my top 3 favorite RPGs.
Why not?Jove said:
Me too. But the odds are slim because gamers prooved that some minor graphics issues (clipping and texture pops), dumb AI (imagine that), and an escort mission made this game an "unplayable train wreck". Oh yeah and some people didn't want to have to fight bosses or something. That argument always sounds like "I put all my points into hacking and now I can't beat a boss so this game sucks."nikki191 said:
this would be awesome.PsychedelicDiamond said:
i think we can agree that if obsidian did whatever game the story would be strong and the characters would be interesting.
I found FONV less buggy than fo3, i also found it far better in many areas where they added new mechanics, i considered that a fairly impressive feat with their reputation for buggy games.
So i would argue it depends what engine they use, if they used bethesdas again i think they could make a solid game with it, especially with one under their belt.
If they build their own, then hope for the best.
I would cry such happy tearsPsychedelicDiamond said:
The main problem with Dungeon Siege 3, AFAIK, was that Obsidian didn't put their creative A-team on the project, just their best programmers. What was born was a technically solid game with no good roleplaying moments, and it quickly vanished from most people's memoriesSavagezion said:
Something was gained with the creation of Dungeon Siege 3 however: now Obsidian has their own game engine that they know how to use without creating a thousand bugs in the process
im sorry but your acting kinda dickish here dude, people favours and tastes differ, one person can have their feelings contrary to another, neither is right for all, neither is wrong.Anthraxus said:
some like cheap and cheerful some like fine cuisine.
OT: i can only imagine if they tried to make anything like metal gear solid, (any of them)
it would frankly just be a mess of shit and hysterical laughter, with added glitches.
Very much in tune with the natural world and have magic powers beyond other races.... Were you awake when you played Mass Effect? Asari are totally space-Elves. Mind you the argument stands that fantasy and sci-fi generally use the same ideas just in a different setting.PrinceOfShapeir said:
More on-topic (ish): I'd like to see either Bethesda or Obsidian do their own sci-fi game (talking spaceships and galaxy exploration here, not post-apocalyptic). I think either of those companies doing a game like that would be something to see.