I really don't look at it that way. Even in the face of an apocalypse, even if there's nobody else left to witness my transgressions after it's all over, the sad fact of the matter is that I invested what little time I had being an idiot, and that this happenstance occurred is a consequence etched into the very fabric of eternity. What are the cosmic signs of my passing, my greater influence on the cosmos, the evidence that bringing me into existence was supposed to be a good idea? If the answer is, "he did a whole lot of stupid stuff because he figured he could get away with it," then it's not a particularly satisfactory answer.dathwampeer said:But that's what's so fascinating about apocalypses. At least to us. Because we set ourself arbitrary rules to follow. And feel that if we step outside the social norm even on our deathbeds it would leave a bad taste in the mouths of those left behind.geldonyetich said:2 years. 60 years.
Either way, your life is finite.
Try to leave something worthwhile behind.
So an utter apocalypses would free us of that because there would be no inhibition. Just people fulfilling their fantasy. Because no one would be left to remember what you did.
It's the ultimate freedom of desire.
Can I come too? I can bring mildly humourous conversation and jerky.MrShowerHead said:Heh, mind if I join? I can bring some snacksGamesB2 said:Pop open a beer.
Sit in a camping chair in the front garden.
Toast to the end of the world.![]()
I'll bring the marshmallows!Lemon Detective said:Can I come too? I can bring mildly humourous conversation and jerky.MrShowerHead said:Heh, mind if I join? I can bring some snacksGamesB2 said:Pop open a beer.
Sit in a camping chair in the front garden.
Toast to the end of the world.![]()
awwww I don't live to see my 16th birthday on the 27th bummer eh ditch school do stuffSmkoogle said:Okay, I dont really believe in 2012. I believe that people will get so scared that we will end ourselves.
So, if December 21st, 2012 is your last day...How will you live it?
I would live it with those I love and those I dont. I would end any hate I had, and replace it with love.
Same as this except with a six pack of Budweiser in hand.Zero_ctrl said:Listen to R.E.M.'s "It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)"
Sorry, we're not all nihilists.dathwampeer said:LOLgeldonyetich said:I really don't look at it that way. Even in the face of an apocalypse, even if there's nobody else left to witness my transgressions after it's all over, the sad fact of the matter is that I invested what little time I had being an idiot, and that this happenstance occurred is a consequence etched into the very fabric of eternity. What are the cosmic signs of my passing, my greater influence on the cosmos, the evidence that bringing me into existence was supposed to be a good idea? If the answer is, "he did a whole lot of stupid stuff because he figured he could get away with it," then it's not a particularly satisfactory answer.dathwampeer said:But that's what's so fascinating about apocalypses. At least to us. Because we set ourself arbitrary rules to follow. And feel that if we step outside the social norm even on our deathbeds it would leave a bad taste in the mouths of those left behind.geldonyetich said:2 years. 60 years.
Either way, your life is finite.
Try to leave something worthwhile behind.
So an utter apocalypses would free us of that because there would be no inhibition. Just people fulfilling their fantasy. Because no one would be left to remember what you did.
It's the ultimate freedom of desire.
What eternity. You'd be dead.
When it comes to the complete end of civilisation. I'd rather have some fun that sit there and say I kept composure rite until the very end.
I'm not even entirely sure I wouldn't do that if it was just a certainty I'd die. What do I care what the people left on earth think about me after I'm dead... I'm dead. Build a museum to how much of an asshole I was. I wouldn't care... I'd be dead.
What impact do you actually think we as a whole have on the universe. We're so insignificant we could blow ourselfves completely out of existence and it wouldn't matter. There is no greater idea behind your being. Even the greatest of us only impacted our tiny spec of a world.
You just happened. Enjoy it.
Realist, hmm? Who's reality?dathwampeer said:I prefer realist. And it's better than self deprocation.geldonyetich said:Sorry, we're not all nihilists.
When you say your reality is the one exist in, there's a fundamental problem with that as reflected in the allegory of the cave [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave]. You reality will inevitably be different than my reality regardless of the shared reality that may be between them simply by virtue of our different experiences and means of perceiving them. To say that you're right because you're the realist is problematic because the resulting lack of fidelity you have at truly understanding reality to its finest details.dathwampeer said:The one we exist in.geldonyetich said:Realist, hmm? Who's reality?dathwampeer said:I prefer realist. And it's better than self deprocation.geldonyetich said:Sorry, we're not all nihilists.
It's funny you're hitting me up for being self-deprecating when you're the one who said life was meaningless, the ultimate self-deprecation.
In any case, my experiences with the Escapist moderators tells that our little exchange has gone on as long as they will tolerate, so revel in whatever beliefs you want; these forums are no platform for education.
Not really. That's just accepting what we are and revelling in it. As opposed to setting up impossible standards for no apparent reason. Then judging those who choose not to follow them. We're only human.
Why?
We're just having a discussion. The mods won't do anything about 2 people having a discussion. It's not like we're hurling insults at each other.