If you had Peter Molyneux alone in a room...

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Valentine82

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ElTigreSantiago said:
Interog- I mean ASK him about upcoming games, thoughts he had in Fable II that couldn't be used, and I would tell him things I would like to see in Fable III. Less trails and load screens, more exploration!

Also his autograph and a picture of him and I.
You know what would happen if you asked him about upcoming games right? He'd hype them and promise all sorts of cool things, you'd get all excited like a kid before Xmas, then the games would come out and your jaw would drop... From dissapointment. The games would be nothing like he said they would be, they'd be less than half of what he promised. So they might be good, after all Fable was "good" for an RPG Lite on Rails, but they wouldn't be what he advertised. At the end of the day you'd still feel lied to.
 

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Probalby also not going to murder him. For that he is just too harmless of a man to really cause trouble like Uwe Boll. What I'd like to try however was to get behind his thought processes and try to discuss with him on an even level about what he thinks games are made for and then having him listen to mine before we keep discussing how those ideals can be combined and ideally reached.

What point would it be to murder someone who is just delusional about his products and demands too much of something that is meant to be kept at least in some aspects as a simple game that is supposed to be fun and entertaining?
 

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Congratulate him for making two fun games. You can't persuade Peter Molyneux to live up to his promises, that is his thing, he never lives up to his claims, but that is what he does. You can't blame him if that is the purpose he serves on this earth, that is what the Rainbow Dragons want...
 

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Darenus said:
Probalby also not going to murder him. For that he is just too harmless of a man to really cause trouble like Uwe Boll. What I'd like to try however was to get behind his thought processes and try to discuss with him on an even level about what he thinks games are made for and then having him listen to mine before we keep discussing how those ideals can be combined and ideally reached.

What point would it be to murder someone who is just delusional about his products and demands too much of something that is meant to be kept at least in some aspects as a simple game that is supposed to be fun and entertaining?
I wouldn't murder him either ;)

But I don't buy this "Oh he's just delusional" crap. Peter Molyneux was a CEO for Electronic Arts, he knows all about hype in marketing. It's no simple mistake or a slip of the toung when he tells people that something will be in a game that won't, then CHOOSES not to tell anyone when he realizes that it won't be. PM misleads people, but he does so in such a way that no one can hold him legally accountable.

Peter misleads people in order to hype his products because the most sales occure withing the first two week (before there are any reviews), a well hyped game will sell big before anyone knows whether or not it's a good game.
 

Darenus

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Can't really argue with that either, I just can go with the things I know about the man and while it is all very little I am still hopeful and prolly blue-eyed in many facts.

Still, what I do know about the man as of now is that he has always had great ideas and great visisons, both of which he always had been laughed at, ever since I first heard of him. While he sure didn't bring up anything that revolutionized the industry but he took nonetheless rather daring and (too) big steps and demanded things that were just not done up to that point in such a scale he invisioned.

Don't get me wrong now, tho. I certainly don't defend that man for his brain-farts, he always ended up loosing the big overal picture and lost himself in ideas for which the industry wasn't really ready yet or the games simply not capable of, but in the end he does make for a nice scientist who experiments and pushes the boundaries (if only in so few aspects).

And yes, I call him delusional, as one interview he had with our local magazine here once showed clearly he thinks he's better than so many while he has yet to come up with something as successful as Portal for instance. (I can't recall any passages or look it up yet, but let's just say: he really thinks like he would be of higher ranks)

Still, a creative mind in this business if only people don't let him keep command over a game but simply as a maybe higher ranking advisor of some sorts.

Then again, we all have seen Dschafar (or however he's being written) from Alladin, didn't we?
 

daxter101

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all i can say it would involve a clothing peg, a super soaker and a squirrel, while i play cher in the background.

for the ULTIMATE form of torture
 

justnotcricket

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I would make small talk? What else would I do - I don't know the man! (As in, I know who he *is*, just not him, if you see what I mean)
 

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Yudas said:
I would realise that hating someone that designs games (badly?) and wanting to hurt them is stupid, and ask him if he wanted to play a game of chess, instead of being mutilated.
At least give him a choice: "Cake or Death!"
Any Izzard fans?

I would lightly smack him around the head with a realistic feeling dildo and demand he put his games on the pc again. After a while I'd dump him in the river to swim home and tell him that next time I wont be so nice.
 

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I'd ask him why it's so hard to make a character that doesn't look completely ridiculous in Fable 2, then I'd have him autograph my copy of Fable 2 before we chowed down on taquitos.
 

Valentine82

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I certainly don't defend that man for his brain-farts
All in all I think the thing I most object to is giving him a free pass. Most of the untruths he spreads about his games before they're released aren't innocent mistakes or brain farts, he hypes his products and sometimes he outright lies to do so because that sells pre-orders and that moves product off the shelves before anyone can review the game and expose the lies. The man is well schooled in the arcane art of the corporate, he was a CEO for Electronic Arts, he knows what he's doing and he knows when he's lying. The thing is, he also knows how to lie in such a way that he can't be held legally accountable.
 

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Macgyvercas said:
Ask him to make Fable 3 more like Fable 1, i.e. getting loot from monster drops.
I agree. I'd also discuss the good and bad points on his games so they would be more enjoyable. He really does have some great ideas, its the execution that needs a bit of polish.

(Please, Peter, allow us to turn of any "helpful" tutorial-style messages. We don't need "Your will power is getting low, better watch that" in the 59th fight. Really. Nor do we want our little Sporeling to die in the cell stage because of a yellow pop-up window that takes up 1/3 of the screen. Please make the tutorial mode separate and NOT required as they were in Black and White!)
 

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More than likely, I'd sit him down, discusss what I liked about his games and what I would personally find more enjoyable add-ons to the game, tell him that "See the future" was kind of a waste of my time and then ask him if it's possible for him to make a game and keep what he says about it vague, just to see if it becomes much more successful and less dissapointing when people shell out for a new console just to play them.

Then I'd shake his hand, tell him "We all get excited when we're working on something we love, but please, don't over-sell it next time." and then leave.
 

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Bring in his development team untie him give him a whip and tell him. "Make them make the Fable you want then dispose of them by sending them on vacation." His overhyping will be no more because he would have made his dreams a reality. and when i play the new fable my head would explode from the bad-assery of it
 

Darenus

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I guess that one is boiling down to personal point of view now and well, while I still can say in honesty that I have hopes for the man, I know not to trust him too much anymore. Fabe 2 sounded great when first pics were revealed on Gamestar but I knew it would prolly not end up like the Jesus-rebirth of Action/RPGs. Still I bet it's a decent game if only the stupid job aspect would have been dropped... really, what's up with that?
 

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i would let him serve me milk and cookies......and let him tell me stories of his childhood...look the guy is just excited about his games and it doesn't bother me that he might get to excited about his games...the man is trying to make a great game...and he likes to interact with gamers i can't blame him for either