Oops, my badA random person said:I'm disappointed in you, Paragon. How could you forget about Ann Coulter? She's even worse than those two. Also, can we execute Rush Limbaugh by painkillers?paragon1 said:All hail President Dalek Sec, savior of America! Can we have Glen Beck and Sean Hannity executed as well?dalek sec said:Fox News would be outlawed.
I think he meant the number of times they could be reelected. The Senate and House have a ridiculous reelection rate (something like 90% or higher as I recall).Amnestic said:Already in effect. A Senator's term is six years as I recall, with 1/3rd being re-elected every two years. Members of the House of Representatives serve two year terms.7. limit terms for all politicians, not just presidents but senators and house members as well.
That's not a problem with the system but rather the politicians in question, isn't it? The President only has a single spot open at any one time, but there are hundreds of House seats and a hundred Senate seats. If they're doing the job, why elect someone else?paragon1 said:I think he meant the number of times they could be reelected. The Senate and House have a ridiculous reelection rate (something like 90% or higher as I recall).Amnestic said:Already in effect. A Senator's term is six years as I recall, with 1/3rd being re-elected every two years. Members of the House of Representatives serve two year terms.7. limit terms for all politicians, not just presidents but senators and house members as well.
I don't see prostitution or any other illicit drugs in that list. Where are they?4: Legalize gay marriage and marijuana.
Hmm, planned to put this in the list but I guess I forgot.Amnestic said:I don't see prostitution or any other illicit drugs in that list. Where are they?
Courtney Love... did you post here just after posting in my thread about Kurt and Courtney, or is she one of the first people on your list of who to kill. I personally think about killing her at least once a weeksoren7550 said:Let's see...
If I somehow became president, I'd immediately have Hillary Clinton, Jack Thompson, Courtney Love, my father and a few other people publicly executed. Then, I'd pull all of the American troops out of Afghanistan so that I could bomb the shit out of it until its surface has been melted to glass. Also, I'd temporally stop aide to foreign nations so that I could fix up the country. I'd also make it so that more of our stuff was made in America and a lot less of it in China.
Oh yeah, I'd do some of that going green stuff as well.
Hmm, that's an interesting point. Fun fact: Congress rarely has an approval rating of over 20%, but Congressmen usually have a high approval rate in their district/state. Which means that people don't hate their Congressmen, they hate all the other ones. The real problem is the same problem America usually has. Not enough people are paying attention to what their Congressman actually does, and all he has to do to get reelected again and again. If they stay in long enough, the chances of getting booted out are fairly low (since people prefer to keep the corrupt liar they have, for fear of the new one being a corrupt liar who devours infants on the weekend).Amnestic said:That's not a problem with the system but rather the politicians in question, isn't it? The President only has a single spot open at any one time, but there are hundreds of House seats and a hundred Senate seats. If they're doing the job, why elect someone else?paragon1 said:I think he meant the number of times they could be reelected. The Senate and House have a ridiculous reelection rate (something like 90% or higher as I recall).Amnestic said:Already in effect. A Senator's term is six years as I recall, with 1/3rd being re-elected every two years. Members of the House of Representatives serve two year terms.7. limit terms for all politicians, not just presidents but senators and house members as well.
Isn't it up to opposing politicians to make the competition?
I agree. Though again this is a problem not with the system itself but with the people - in this case the populace rather than the politicians. The system is fine and if both populace and politicians actually took an interest in their local political system we might see a higher turnover right. Political apathy is something which has stricken the UK for a while now and I daresay it might be affecting America as well.paragon1 said:Hmm, that's an interesting point. Fun fact: Congress rarely has an approval rating of over 20%, but Congressmen usually have a high approval rate in their district/state. Which means that people don't hate their Congressmen, they hate all the other ones. The real problem is the same problem America usually has. Not enough people are paying attention to what their Congressman actually does, and all he has to do to get reelected again and again. If they stay in long enough, the chances of getting booted out are fairly low (since people prefer to keep the corrupt liar they have, for fear of the new one being a corrupt liar who devours infants on the weekend).Amnestic said:That's not a problem with the system but rather the politicians in question, isn't it? The President only has a single spot open at any one time, but there are hundreds of House seats and a hundred Senate seats. If they're doing the job, why elect someone else?paragon1 said:I think he meant the number of times they could be reelected. The Senate and House have a ridiculous reelection rate (something like 90% or higher as I recall).Amnestic said:Already in effect. A Senator's term is six years as I recall, with 1/3rd being re-elected every two years. Members of the House of Representatives serve two year terms.7. limit terms for all politicians, not just presidents but senators and house members as well.
Isn't it up to opposing politicians to make the competition?
Hmm.10: Abolish all federal drug and sexuality laws, properly placing these things under State control.
I don't know about your solution. Sure, placing it under government regulation sounds good at first, but the system would eventually be exploited somehow, and then you've got lawsuits, scandals, the whole shebang. You'd have to find a really hard-to-break system for that... and even then, if somebody feels that the regulations are too strict, why would they bother following them when they can just continue doing what they were doing before?Amnestic said:Hmm.10: Abolish all federal drug and sexuality laws, properly placing these things under State control.
Nope. I don't agree actually. Abolising the current laws is good, but placing them under State Control wouldn't do much. I was actually aiming for the entire legalisation, taxation and regulation of prostitution and all currently illegal substances. I don't partake in either of those, but I think it's stupid to keep them illegal when it's safer for the country as a whole to have them regulated and safe.
Putting it under any regulation sounds good at first but will eventually be exploited. The private companies are just as liable to corruption as our own government. I'm not saying it wouldn't have its problems, every system does. There are no perfect solutions and arbitrary lines would have to be drawn (same reason why the age of consent is 16 in the UK and not 15, even though it might only be a day's difference for some people.)scotth266 said:I don't know about your solution. Sure, placing it under government regulation sounds good at first, but the system would eventually be exploited somehow, and then you've got lawsuits, scandals, the whole shebang. You'd have to find a really hard-to-break system for that... and even then, if somebody feels that the regulations are too strict, why would they bother following them when they can just continue doing what they were doing before?Amnestic said:Hmm.10: Abolish all federal drug and sexuality laws, properly placing these things under State control.
Nope. I don't agree actually. Abolising the current laws is good, but placing them under State Control wouldn't do much. I was actually aiming for the entire legalisation, taxation and regulation of prostitution and all currently illegal substances. I don't partake in either of those, but I think it's stupid to keep them illegal when it's safer for the country as a whole to have them regulated and safe.
Granted, keeping everything illegal is rather pointless as well, with the sole exceptions of extremely dangerous drugs.
My other argument was that people wouldn't be willing to switch to a regulated system when they already have an unregulated one in place, but you gave an excellent counterpoint against that: the assurance of quality.Amnestic said:I'm not crazy enough to say that it would be flawlessly executed, but it's a damn sight better than the ridiculous laws against them we've got at the moment for no concievable reason other than "DRUGS R BAD MMKAY!"
Preferably? None would be kept illegal. Obviously some drugs even now are still only acquirable by prescription only. A Doctor's consent might be needed for some of the harder ones to certify that it won't adversely affect their health in any way, but they'd still be legal.scotth266 said:My other argument was that people wouldn't be willing to switch to a regulated system when they already have an unregulated one in place, but you gave an excellent counterpoint against that: the assurance of quality.Amnestic said:I'm not crazy enough to say that it would be flawlessly executed, but it's a damn sight better than the ridiculous laws against them we've got at the moment for no concievable reason other than "DRUGS R BAD MMKAY!"
The only issue left really is: what drugs would you legalize, and how strict would you be with the regulations? Some people are attempting to ride the wave marijuana is taking in an attempt to say other, more dangerous drugs should get the same treatment, so it becomes an issue of which ones you want to keep illegal.
Well, the reason Supreme Court Justices have life terms is so that they don't have to be swayed by the politics of the hour, and can make the decisions that are best for the country in the long run. They can also instigate the change our country might need that politicians either can't or won't risk trying. Desegregation in the 60's being a good example.Amnestic said:I agree. Though again this is a problem not with the system itself but with the people - in this case the populace rather than the politicians. The system is fine and if both populace and politicians actually took an interest in their local political system we might see a higher turnover right. Political apathy is something which has stricken the UK for a while now and I daresay it might be affecting America as well.paragon1 said:Hmm, that's an interesting point. Fun fact: Congress rarely has an approval rating of over 20%, but Congressmen usually have a high approval rate in their district/state. Which means that people don't hate their Congressmen, they hate all the other ones. The real problem is the same problem America usually has. Not enough people are paying attention to what their Congressman actually does, and all he has to do to get reelected again and again. If they stay in long enough, the chances of getting booted out are fairly low (since people prefer to keep the corrupt liar they have, for fear of the new one being a corrupt liar who devours infants on the weekend).Amnestic said:That's not a problem with the system but rather the politicians in question, isn't it? The President only has a single spot open at any one time, but there are hundreds of House seats and a hundred Senate seats. If they're doing the job, why elect someone else?paragon1 said:I think he meant the number of times they could be reelected. The Senate and House have a ridiculous reelection rate (something like 90% or higher as I recall).Amnestic said:Already in effect. A Senator's term is six years as I recall, with 1/3rd being re-elected every two years. Members of the House of Representatives serve two year terms.7. limit terms for all politicians, not just presidents but senators and house members as well.
Isn't it up to opposing politicians to make the competition?
Whether the actual electoral system needs reforming is irrelevant, but in regards to the number of terms the Senators/Representatives can serve, I think it's fine. I'm not about to start ordering for the Supreme Court Justices to have a duration on their service rather than the tenure that they currently enjoy, as it really doesn't serve a purpose.