[IGN]Top Five Reasons Dark Souls Will Eat Skyrim's Face

[Dr. wonderful]

It's like a bad Cracked.com article.

Waldorf:I thought every Cracked article was bad.
Slater and Woldorf: Dohohohoho!

 

[Waaghpowa]

Anyone who thinks that more games need multi player needs to die in a fire. Every time they put multiplaer/co op into what was a single player game, they always ruin it, whether it be because they lacked focus on single player or because they designed single around co op/MP.

A good example is Metro. Metro 2033 was awesome, now Last Light is going to have MP. I swear if the game suffers for it, I will go on a rampage.

 

[ZombieMonkey7]

Great who let the whiny fanboy troll write the article, oh wait it's ign everybody is a fanboy troll

 

[Stall]

If this article had been: "Five Reasons Skyrim will top Dark Souls." Why do I feel like no one would be angry at all?

Probably because it wouldn't upset the Bethesda fanboys, who religiously defend the honor of their dear, dear developer.

Great who let the whiny fanboy troll write the article, oh wait it's ign everybody is a fanboy troll

You also didn't talk about all the fanboys in this thread, as well as in the comments, who are raging and spewing hate because someone DARED to have the ABSOLUTE AUDACITY to believe that Skyrim is not god's gift to gaming.

Your opinion is fine so long as it isn't about Bethesda. If you have an opinion about Bethesda that isn't nothing but heaps of praise and worship, then clearly you are wrong. You are just misinformed about your own thoughts, and should adjust them. You aren't allowed to say anything bad against Bethesda.

 

[Jennacide]

"1) ONLINE MULTIPLAYER"

I quit reading there. Seriously, IGN?

This. I'm so fucking tired of the claim the multiplayer makes a game inherently better. IGN can go fuck right off. I'm excited for Dark Souls, but only because it's around atmosphere and challenge. I'm more excited for Skyrim because I like to explore. Just because the author thinks those are the reasons it's better FOR HIMSELF, doesn't mean they are uniform.

1) Fuck multiplayer.
2) The price hike up to $60 for PC sucks, but that's normal price for console. You aren't required to buy CE's. You aren't required to buy DLC. DLC is for people that enjoyed a game enough to want more. I would of LIKED DLC for Demon's Souls you moron.
3) Bullshit, plain and simple. I've played Bethesda games, we know how they are in scope. You are comparing claims and CGI footage to back this point. Demon's Souls was good, but fairly linear. Going on conjecture and claims doesn't work. Ask Peter Molyneaux.
4) The only even remotely acceptable argument, with one major issue. I don't care if the combat in my ROLE PLAYING GAME isn't super deep. When I want deep combat, I look for titles that excel in that. Demon's Souls was an action game with an RPG coating tossed on top. That is not the same goddam thing.
5) Okay, you can fuck right off at this point. Refer to point 3 again. Conjecture and CGI footage.

Every time they put multiplaer/co op into what was a single player game, they always ruin it, whether it be because they lacked focus on single player or because they designed single around co op/MP.

Except Demon's Souls, whose online portion fit seemlessly into the game...

Because it was barely there. And you could of easily gotten the same effect without it by putting in random phantoms and text blurbs. The co-op partners were almost universally more trouble than help.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Every time they put multiplaer/co op into what was a single player game, they always ruin it, whether it be because they lacked focus on single player or because they designed single around co op/MP.

Except Demon's Souls, whose online portion fit seemlessly into the game...

I'm aware of that, but I was mostly commenting on the "It needs online MP" mentality a lot of people seem to have these days.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Silly IGN... Keep trying to sound like a legitimate game news source!
I also find it hilarious that they're bitching that there's not MP. NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS MP. Especially a game that is already going to be extremely vast. Either SP or MP would be neglected and in the end the game would end up less polished that it would otherwise.

 

[EvilMaggot]

Uh... Isn't number 2 wrong. DLC has been confirmed for all platforms, just that PC and PS3 get's it a month later.

[sub] also, can't spell ignorant without IGN, but I'm already ninja'd.
Twice[/sub]

Bethesda have also stated that they are taking the "expansion pack" approach to DLC. Which means we can expect something akin to Shivering Isles and less akin to horse armor. Expansion packs dont aim to add 2 hours of gameplay at a time, they aim to expand on the original game in a big way. In other words, you can expect a lot of game from an expansion pack. I would rather have an expansion pack for a game I like than nothing at all.

Maybe you havent been following Skyrim closely so you didnt know this, or maybe you simply havent been gaming long enough to really know how the expansion pack model works. But Skyrim definitely has the draw on Dark Souls on the DLC/Expansion Pack front, if both devs keep their promises.

Anyhow, OT: if some guy on the escapist had written the things featured in the article he would be written off as a troll. He went full retard. He has clearly never played an Elder Scrolls title, and ironically, he seems not to have invested much time in Demons Souls either.

1. Yeah, fans have been crying for it for years. Except they havent, they have been crying to keep multiplayer OUT of the series. If I have to point out the appeal of single player only in an Elder Scrolls title, you should probably go play one.

2. If Bethesda hold their promise Skyrim beats Dark Souls hands down.

3. "No Mans Land" - IGN, what the fuck are you talking about you stupid ignorant cunts. You have been hyping Skyrim like fuck for the last months and you are ignorant to the number of confirmed villages and towns, the better and more unique looking dungeons, the numerous additions to the environment (wildlife and small details such as dead trees should make the whole game feel more authentic)... Come on guys.

4: Combat - I have to agree on this one. Dark Souls will certainly beat Skyrim in terms of challenge and melee fighting. Im expecting sword combat to feel a lot better in Dark Souls than it will feel in Skyrim - but then again, im also expecting to spend a lot more time fighting in the former than I am in the latter.

5. Dragons - again, a matter of perspective. Skyrim features ass kicking, regular dragon fights with dragons that shout at you (check out the gameplay video, in the fight with the dragon you hear the dragon using a shout, sounds fucking AWESOME), and some may even talk to you - the point is, in Skyrim, dragons are part of the world around you, they interact with it, they are ever-present. In Dark Souls im thinking the dragon(s?) are more likely to be one off challenging boss fights. You cant compare the two.

Speaking of which, I dont think you can compare the two games anyway. They are as far away from each other as two RPGs can be, they hold completely different challenges and rewards, they are fun to the player in completely different ways - theres just no reasonable way of comparing them.

One last thing, IGN: here 5 reasons you can kiss my ass:

1. Fuck you
2. Fuck you
3. Fuck you
4. Fuck you
5. Fuck you

This fella here pretty much wrote it... i agree soo much on this

 

[TheDooD]

3) Dark Souls will have no DLC. This is a point for Dark Souls.

Sorry but HOW is this a point for Dark Souls? Do you even know what DLCs do to a game if done properly? (See Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas).

If you want DLC from a From Software title go for Armored Core 5 and even then they don't want DLC to be game breaking in anyway. They just want you to enjoy the game for what it is.

 

[Ensiferum]

I quit reading around the part where IGN said one of the selling points of Dark Souls is that "you can't pause the game!"

Aside from that the combat looks clunky and awful at best.

 

[Jubbert]

Why Skyrim will be better than Dark Souls:

Dark Souls isn't on PC.

 

[tobi the good boy]

If this article had been: "Five Reasons Skyrim will top Dark Souls." Why do I feel like no one would be angry at all?

Probably because it wouldn't upset the Bethesda fanboys, who religiously defend the honor of their dear, dear developer.

Great who let the whiny fanboy troll write the article, oh wait it's ign everybody is a fanboy troll

You also didn't talk about all the fanboys in this thread, as well as in the comments, who are raging and spewing hate because someone DARED to have the ABSOLUTE AUDACITY to believe that Skyrim is not god's gift to gaming.

Your opinion is fine so long as it isn't about Bethesda. If you have an opinion about Bethesda that isn't nothing but heaps of praise and worship, then clearly you are wrong. You are just misinformed about your own thoughts, and should adjust them. You aren't allowed to say anything bad against Bethesda.

Actually from what I've read of the thread, it's not so much as "Fanboyism" as much as it is, IGN's article being genuinely poorly written and raises points that don't correlate to the target audience. I mean the first point he raised was Multiplayer, something that the Elder scrolls series has always stayed away from for it's own already justified reasons (The game is purely a single player experience, having 1000 Dragonborns running around killing your quest giving NPC's and such forth wouldn't really aid the game in my opinion.)

Also your little bit about opinions. No it's not fine either way. If your making a comparison you should try to remain distanced from the points you raise relying purely on facts. People who are opposed to this aren't just the whinging faanboys you seem to believe we are. We just dislike Bias.

On a final note, if a Skyrim vs Dark souls debate were to spur and it was completely biased, you'd probably still would have a shittonne of complaints as well.

 

[Condiments]

I don't understand, why is this article such a big deal? Why are people freaking out that one guy thinks Dark souls might be better than Elder scrolls?

Personally I think Dark Souls will be much better, but it appeals to a niche of gamers who appreciate a sort of challenge. Elder Scrolls, like its predecessors(especially oblivion) will be heavily flawed, but still somewhat enjoyable.

People need to chill out.

 

[RaikuFA]

Children, children. Let us be calm. For these are the OPINIONS of ONE PERSON. Breathe in, breathe out. Buy the game of your choosing. This WILL NOT, I repeat, WILL NOT cause all copies of Skyrim to burst into flames.

Dry your eyes, lovelies. Everything will be okay.

that would be hilarious.

"heres your copy of skyrim OH DEAR GOD WHY IS IT ON FIRE?!?!?!"

 

[Stall]

On a final note, if a Skyrim vs Dark souls debate were to spur and it was completely biased, you'd probably still would have a shittonne of complaints as well.

No, I probably wouldn't, simply because I do not care about what a stranger on a gaming 'journalism' website has to say about a game I am looking forward to. And no, people who are mad about this article are just fanboys crying about someone who has a different opinion than them. Who cares about bias? The article title itself should make it clear that it is an opinion piece. Are you seriously implying that bias should not be present in an opinion piece? That's... um... I'm not too sure about the logistics of this. People are taking this WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too personally, probably because the implication that Skyrim might not be great is somehow offensive to them.

It was a dumb article. Call it a dumb article and move on. Don't sit around and throw a hissy fit over it, unless the contents somehow offend you.

 

[Moeez]

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[dave1004]

I'll take Skyrim over "Dark Souls" any day. Reason?

I can play Skyrim without having to be f**king online. I have an extremely slow, heavily limited satellite connection that shuts off about 16 hours a day. Screw DRMs. I haven't played a multiplayer game in years.

 

[HerbertTheHamster]

Considering how incredibly empty and bland oblivion and fallout 3 were, pretty much any rpg could be better than Skyrim.

i love how biased this place is toward bethesda though, even claiming that IGN got paid for doing this. All gaming websites are bribed. That's why it's baby's first journalism.