I'm ashamed of myself... but I finally succumbed to Origin

[Syzygy23]

Its not some evil criminal mastermind with a twirly mustache that has an army of henchman browsing your computer files looking at your porns. Its a game company with silly business decisions. People need to stop all this paranoia that just stems from taking the user agreements to literally and irrationally. You want to play Battlefield and Mass Effect? 2 amazing games of this generation? then just freaking put on your big boy pants and get over it all ready.

Yeah, Steam pretty much does the same thing.

The only reason Steam is better is because

A) Steam Sales. Steam KNOWS this is digital content and they tend to offer sweet deals reflecting that. EA's Origin service is STILL charging people full price for games despite the fact that there are no boxes, disks, or manuals to justify the sixty dollar price tag.

B) Steam has slightly better customer support. And by "slightly" I mean Steam won't have a Mod bot ban you from their service when it mistakes something you say on a forum as a swear word, and then customer service treats you like shit and refuses to correct the mistake, like Origin. No, Steams' customer support is either horribly understaffed or nonexistent. I was having a HL2.exe error with TF2 once and my help ticket went unanswered for 2 weeks, by which point I managed to solve the problem myself.

But at least they didn't call my an idiot and permaban me from all my games!

Is EA a conglomerate of greedy assholes trying to nickel and dime us? Yes.
Does EA fund a lot of our favorite/Great game developers? Yes again.
Is EA the only corporation in the history of the universe to be run by greedy assholes? No, sweet baby Man-Jesus no.

NO, how could you!? Every true gamer would spend the $350 extra money for a Playstation or an Xbox and get Mass Effect 3 for those in order to avoid Origin.

You deserve a special spot in hell. The ORIGIN spot.


... Have fun playing Mass Effect 3 though. I am sure its going to be awesome and YOU are going to get it on the first day because you were brave enough to survive Origin. You, or your computer.

I think they still require an Origin account even for the consoles. I don't know HOW that is supposed to work though.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Its not some evil criminal mastermind with a twirly mustache that has an army of henchman browsing your computer files looking at your porns. Its a game company with silly business decisions. People need to stop all this paranoia that just stems from taking the user agreements to literally and irrationally. You want to play Battlefield and Mass Effect? 2 amazing games of this generation? then just freaking put on your big boy pants and get over it all ready.

Is it really big boy pants to do something you disagree with. I personally think what they have done with the end user agreement is stupid at best, and intentionally vague at worst.
I am personally tired of giving people the rights to violate my rights and privacy. Does it mean that they will use that data for evil? no and its probably impractical for them to even track that much personal data from so many millions of people. But its the president that it sets.

I am not going to cave in on my decision for momentary gratification, and I fail to see how sticking to my position is immature.

 

[kasperbbs]

So did I, its not that bad, games are cheaper for my country than on steam, but i can't figure out why half of its text is in French and the rest is in English.
EDIT: i'm not from France >.>.

 

[Axyun]

I'm just gonna wait till its available on steam 1-2 years after its release, including all DLC. I'm sure its only a matter of time.

 

[Tayh]

Well, the world didn't implode, so all the scaremongering and fearmongering about Origin was probably just people hating EA for trying to compete with steam.
Fancy that.

I'm just gonna wait till its available on steam 1-2 years after its release, including all DLC. I'm sure its only a matter of time.

Yeaah, just like all the valve games are released outside of steam.

 

[Gameguy151]

360/PS3 version. Problem solved. Was that so hard?

 

[Wolfram23]

I have a program on my computer. It scans for spyware and deletes it. No one wants spyware on their computer. That's why i don't want Origin on my computer. All you broskis that have Origin and are talking it up in here, good for you, enjoy the spyware. make sure you uninstall your spyware scanning programs, because it's not a big deal right?

There are other ways to get Mass Effect 3, and i won't feel guilty in slightest getting it that way.

Spyware, yes. I sure hate that damn spyware, sending my PC specs to EA. Mother fuckers shouldn't know I gots me an Intel! Mofos!

Seriously though if you're that paranoid about it just use sandboxie.

Regardless, pretty sure you just said you're going to pirate it. Clearly that'll show EA you don't like their products...

 

[KrossBillNye]

Hehe I remember being one of the few who boycotted Left4Dead2 because of the whole controversy on that.

Out of all of the boycotters I held up pretty well until it was down to like 10 bucks to purchase. Then I bought it

 

[Irridium]

Well, alright then? You do realize that they won't change their ways at all if you continue to buy from them, right?

So long as you know.

I'll be passing on Origin and ME3 for now. Until Origin actually offers something that I'd want, I won't use it. Everything it offers, Steam offers better. The only thing it offers are EA games. And, oh no, I won't be able to play EA games. Yeah, I think I'll be fine.

Origin offers nothing of value to me. No interesting games, no competitive prices, no interesting features, nothing. Until it does, I won't use it.

Well, it does offer Mass Effect 3, but I'm not going to install the whole service just for ME3. I did that with Half Life 2 and have since learned my lesson.

 

[Substitute Troll]

I don't have a problem with Origin because it's not Steam, I have a problem with Origin because it wants to sell my information to whoever it wants.

I'm fully aware that there's other services that scan your computer, Facebook, Steam etc. So the only thing holding me back from getting Origin is that I don't know the extent of it's searchings. I know they changed their terms and so forth, but it's not clear to me if the information it gathers is similar to FB or Steam, or if it's just as draconian as it was at launch...

 

[Sirron Kcuch]

Google and Facebook also sell your information.

 

[Spitfire]

I did that too.
It's just like Steam, but with half the features removed, and double the prices.

Between having to install Origin, and TOR being region locked in my country, I know I can trust EA to deliver quality entertainment.

There's something off about that last sentence.

 

[Steambroom]

Don´t be sad, Origin is a wonderful Death-Metal Band, you´ll love `em, once you acquired their style of music

 

[tzimize]

I tried guys. I really did. Oh man how I tried. I even considered missing out on Mass Effect 3, just to avoid it. But then...the trailers started. The trailers and the demo and the rave reviews thereof, I just couldn't stop myself.

I pre-ordered the deluxe edition via Origin. I feel dirty now. So dirty. But sometimes... we just have to do things we don't like, morally, to get by in life.

...I feel like i've let everyone down. I'm sorry.

NP. I did too, because I wanted BF3. But after playing it, I realized (almost) no games are good enough to put up with this crap. So I wont buy anything on Origin again, and EA has made me dislike them just that little bit more.

Making mistakes is ok, as long as you learn. If you dont, you've earned a slap.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Meh. As has been said before, there are other ways to get Mass Effect 3 without having to deal with Origin. Some legal, others less so.

I understand why EA's doing this from a business standpoint, but the fact is that unlike Steam, Origin does tend to have a few rootkit bones in its body. It's true that Steam periodically collects network-wide system specs info to see how Steam is being used and on which type of platform - but they're honest about it. EA? Someone in the legal department dropped the ball and left their info collection in the dark. It's just a right they've reserved for themselves without explaining why.

For that reason alone, I'm planning on getting ME3 for the PS3.

I understand that EA wasn't seeing all the money they'd care to see while operating with Steam, but this strikes me as a fairly stupid decision. It'll be months or years before Origin is properly serviced and even longer before its games catalog becomes interesting.

 

[sifffffff]

I don't have a problem with Origin because it's not Steam, I have a problem with Origin because it wants to sell my information to whoever it wants.

I'm fully aware that there's other services that scan your computer, Facebook, Steam etc. So the only thing holding me back from getting Origin is that I don't know the extent of it's searchings. I know they changed their terms and so forth, but it's not clear to me if the information it gathers is similar to FB or Steam, or if it's just as draconian as it was at launch...

I'm cool with other programs stealing and disseminating my information but not this one because... because...

I'm calling bullshit. I sincerely doubt you've read and understand both Steam and Facebook's TOS in their entirety.

I'm curious. How many of you who won't use Origin because it's "spyware" use Steam, Facebook, Itunes, Gmail (or any other google related product)? How many of you understand that if you use one of those programs but whine about how Origin is "spyware" you're a hypocrite.

 

[FEichinger]

Gamers are notoriously bad at keeping with boycotts but I cant fault you. If you feel that EA's brand of spyware and consumer unfriendiness is worth playing ME3 then thats fine. I can only say have fun with it

However I will continue to refuse to put origin on my computer. When Bioware wants to do a sensible PC release where I dont have to have origin to play ME3 Ill be ready to buy but until that day comes I'll be standing true to my principles

This, really. Sure, I'm having a hard time refusing to legally acquire ME3, BF3 and the such, but - in all honesty - I'd rather miss out on them, than not speaking up against EA's actions.
Change, or a lost sale, it's up to them, really.

Now, as for the whole Origin vs Steam and Origin is oh-so-bad with their privacy policies ...
Let's be perfectly honest: Steam is superior to Origin in nearly any way. The whole "Yes, but Steam was bad throughout their first years as well!" doesn't apply either. Chrissake, people, Origin's trying to compete with Steam. Right now it does so by forcing us to use it. Sorry, but that's not a free market, it's bullshittery.
Secondly: privacy policy ... Yes, Facebook stores and uses next to anything they can gather. Yes, Google do so as well. I personally don't even use Facebook, due to this, but well ...
What is it that makes us allow Google and Facebook to watch us? Neither of them have policies stating "We will gather this, this an this, and then we will do ... something with it." They tell you: "We will gather ... something, and then we will do this, this and this with it." Big difference. Google and Facebook aren't capable of crawling your local files either, unless you voluntarily grant permission by installing certain programmes - which don't belong to the core service of the respective companies. Origin on the other hand is force-install, and is capable of this massive crawling.
That means: a) Origin can get next to anything, while Facebook and Google are considerably restricted. b) It is not specified what Origin-gathered data is used for. As such, we have no basis for objections, if it is used for something the other companies can't (legally speaking).

All this leads to one conclusion: Origin may not be as bad as it is portrayed, and it can change to the better. But right now it is a pile of shit I certainly don't want anywhere even remotely close to my PC.