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MAUSZX

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I like achievements and trophies, but that decision it's.... WOW, extreme, anyway PS3 has it's flaws, like you can't sign in the same console with two diferent accounts at the same time.. jjust in some games, I think it's the only problem... and it's not really easy to use, but not for selling it
 

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I suppose if Trophies are important to you then that is ok. I had something similar happen to me once or twice, but I never cared.
 

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I gave up on my PS3 shortly after I realized that 99% of the games on it are on the Xbox 360 and the ones by Bethesda actually work on the 360 that don't on the PS3. Also, when playing games on the 360 you don't have to wait for the games to install on the hard drive which is a great perk in my opinion. I use my PS3 primarily for blu-ray movies, secondarily for Netflix and, partly for Trinity Universe (and possibly Little Big Planet if I get another copy of that).

Really the final nail in the PS3 coffin is the fact that I have a Super Nintendo that looks like it fell down a concrete staircase and yet it still plays games without issue. Add in that I can get used SNES games from the internet for cents (unless I want things like boxes and manuals) and I can't think of a single reason to keep playing modern games in general when I can rebuild my childhood collection and expand upon it with games that still play when the internet is down (ie: most of the time)
 

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Reliability isn't I think a major reason to doubt PS3. It may seem likely when it happens to you, but really you have kinda been struck by lightning and are now complaining about "I'm fed up with everyone getting stuck by lightning"

I have a lot of issues with PS3, both inherent to PS3 and simply what the PS3 lacks compared to other platforms but lets look at the good stuff first.

-The exclusives
Playstation 3 didn't really earn these exclusives on the merit of their hardware or software, Sony did very much buy or create Studios like Naughty Dog and Guerilla Games and makes it contractually impossible for them to be released on a non-Sony platform. But the fact remains is that the Uncharted Trilogy is VERY good and it is only on PS3 (and extras on PS Vita).

-The hard drive:
Easy and chap to upgrade

-SOME are fully backwards compatible
I got the early PS3, with the ability to play PS1 and PS2 games, this was an easy choice for me to sell my PS2 and just free up the plugs around my TV. I cannot complain about the lack os BC in latter consoles as I have a launch console, hwever that DOES Mean I can complain about the price

PS3's Problems:

-The price!
Oh good fucking LORD the price of this was insanse and I'm not talking about the $600 in the US, but the £425 price in the UK. The exchange rate in 2007 (yes, it was released 6 months late in UK) meant that price was equal to $850!!! The Playstation 3 cost as much as the top-of-the-range Gaming PC. A gaming PC that would STILL kick ass to this day, like something running 8800GT graphics.

-The performance
But that price would have been justified if it had actually performed as good as the best gaming PC of its day only it didn't. Sure, Killzone 2 looked good but took too many sacrifices to look good for the preview videos, the output lag was atrocious with such low framerate and it was obvious when you actually played it where they had cut corners.
Overall the PS3 has performance almost identical to the Xbox 360 and for multi-platform games it has consistently performed better on Xbox 360, most notable examples including RAGE, Bayonetta and the ENTIRE CoD franchise, with the latest CoD game running at significantly lower resolution on PS3 just to get a stable frame-rate.

-The overall design:
It seems Sony lost focus on getting the little design elements right. The Xbox 360 controller just feels so solid, the stiffness of the thumbsticks is consistent and the shoulder triggers that work great without any need for concave snap-on extensions.
And the other attention to detail like rounded interface of party chat, that is IMPOSSIBLE to retroactively integrate in PS3 as PS3 doesn't have enough memory. I paid more for my PS3 for a device with LESS memory!


Conspicuous absences:

-HD output only via HDMI and it is buggy:
I can use a VGA cable to play my Xbox on any computer monitor and get full undistorted HD-output on the cheap AND convenient. With PS3 you need something that accepts HDMI input and has perfectly accurate 16:9 aspect ratio. That was rather hard to afford in 2007 when I had my PS3.

-the pointlessness of Six-axis controls.
This may be down to the twin influence of Wii sucking motion-control attention and Xbox 360 establishing a gamepad focus to controls.

-Promise of PS Move:
Sony made such a fuss about this and it's fast approaching 2 years now, still hardly any games worth playing for this device. The camera - I have discovered - does not work in my TV room with the illumination it has, the 3 lamps I use in that room with enough light to read by is not enough. I can only use it in the bright light of day. I also look like a complete burk. Sony seems to have lost all focus and with all attention on PS Vita.

-Relevance of Blu-ray
It's been well over half a decade, almost 6 years since the PS3 hit the market and Blu-ray may have beaten HD-DVD but somehow it hasn't edged regular DVD out of the market. And now I look back at why we were REALLY excited about DVD back in the late 90's, it was the convenience of fast chapter select, no rewinding and the ability to play on more devices. It was MORE convenient. Blu-ray is LESS convenient! And I don't think the extra-detail is worth it. Is Casablanca really going to be better being able to see more detail of Humphrey Bogart's face? The detail of Blu-ray only makes it easier to see the suspending wires in The Matrix while more green-screen effects are broken.
That an the late-stage revelation that blu-ray has a much slower read-time that DVD, that means the PS3 has inherently longer loading times than the Xbox 360 was too much.

Conclusion: I don't really care about PS3 any more. I don't have the will to sell it even though I preferentially buy multi-plat games for Xbox or PC. I keep it because I can't bear to sell it for how much it has depreciated, I might as well keep it to play the odd PS3 exclusive, made by Sony, but otherwise I cannot recommend the PS3. The exclusives and easy hard-drive upgrade don't justify it's cost.
 

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DTH1337 said:
A couple of days ago, I wrote a blog topic stating that there was a problem with my PS3's trophy syncing function. I mentioned that I had contacted Sony and they had asked me to restore my console, which I did, but the problem came back when I tried to install the trophies for the Killzone 3 multiplayer.

So, after trying to fix the console with no clear solutions, I simply decided to sell my PS3 and all my games and simply just not bother with Sony ever again (unless the PS4 is awesome or something).

Looking back at it though, I have to admit that I'm pretty much fed up with Sony and how much of a mess the PS3 can get into at times. I mean it only lasted 2 years before this happened, and in that time, I've come to realise that there were times when it messed up for very simple reasons, which I believe is unacceptable in this day and age. I've had Steam since 2008 (yes, I know, Steam isn't a console), and I've never experienced anything that has ruined it for me, even the X-Box 360 that I share with my sister (even though the console still has a high failure rate) is much more reliable than the PS3.

So, basically, I've had enough with the PS3 and with Sony in general. I don't have any regrets selling the PS3.
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Rheinmetall

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Honestly I can't understand you at all. Really. I hope you have played some good games while you had it.
 

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So, you stayed with Sony for the PSN fiasco, but dropped them because of not being able to see your trophies...

What a fucking tool...
 

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Treblaine said:
Reliability isn't I think a major reason to doubt PS3. It may seem likely when it happens to you, but really you have kinda been struck by lightning and are now complaining about "I'm fed up with everyone getting stuck by lightning"

I have a lot of issues with PS3, both inherent to PS3 and simply what the PS3 lacks compared to other platforms but lets look at the good stuff first.

-The exclusives
Playstation 3 didn't really earn these exclusives on the merit of their hardware or software, Sony did very much buy or create Studios like Naughty Dog and Guerilla Games and makes it contractually impossible for them to be released on a non-Sony platform. But the fact remains is that the Uncharted Trilogy is VERY good and it is only on PS3 (and extras on PS Vita).

-The hard drive:
Easy and chap to upgrade

-SOME are fully backwards compatible
I got the early PS3, with the ability to play PS1 and PS2 games, this was an easy choice for me to sell my PS2 and just free up the plugs around my TV. I cannot complain about the lack os BC in latter consoles as I have a launch console, hwever that DOES Mean I can complain about the price

PS3's Problems:

-The price!
Oh good fucking LORD the price of this was insanse and I'm not talking about the $600 in the US, but the £425 price in the UK. The exchange rate in 2007 (yes, it was released 6 months late in UK) meant that price was equal to $850!!! The Playstation 3 cost as much as the top-of-the-range Gaming PC. A gaming PC that would STILL kick ass to this day, like something running 8800GT graphics.

-The performance
But that price would have been justified if it had actually performed as good as the best gaming PC of its day only it didn't. Sure, Killzone 2 looked good but took too many sacrifices to look good for the preview videos, the output lag was atrocious with such low framerate and it was obvious when you actually played it where they had cut corners.
Overall the PS3 has performance almost identical to the Xbox 360 and for multi-platform games it has consistently performed better on Xbox 360, most notable examples including RAGE, Bayonetta and the ENTIRE CoD franchise, with the latest CoD game running at significantly lower resolution on PS3 just to get a stable frame-rate.

-The overall design:
It seems Sony lost focus on getting the little design elements right. The Xbox 360 controller just feels so solid, the stiffness of the thumbsticks is consistent and the shoulder triggers that work great without any need for concave snap-on extensions.
And the other attention to detail like rounded interface of party chat, that is IMPOSSIBLE to retroactively integrate in PS3 as PS3 doesn't have enough memory. I paid more for my PS3 for a device with LESS memory!


Conspicuous absences:

-HD output only via HDMI and it is buggy:
I can use a VGA cable to play my Xbox on any computer monitor and get full undistorted HD-output on the cheap AND convenient. With PS3 you need something that accepts HDMI input and has perfectly accurate 16:9 aspect ratio. That was rather hard to afford in 2007 when I had my PS3.

-the pointlessness of Six-axis controls.
This may be down to the twin influence of Wii sucking motion-control attention and Xbox 360 establishing a gamepad focus to controls.

-Promise of PS Move:
Sony made such a fuss about this and it's fast approaching 2 years now, still hardly any games worth playing for this device. The camera - I have discovered - does not work in my TV room with the illumination it has, the 3 lamps I use in that room with enough light to read by is not enough. I can only use it in the bright light of day. I also look like a complete burk. Sony seems to have lost all focus and with all attention on PS Vita.

-Relevance of Blu-ray
It's been well over half a decade, almost 6 years since the PS3 hit the market and Blu-ray may have beaten HD-DVD but somehow it hasn't edged regular DVD out of the market. And now I look back at why we were REALLY excited about DVD back in the late 90's, it was the convenience of fast chapter select, no rewinding and the ability to play on more devices. It was MORE convenient. Blu-ray is LESS convenient! And I don't think the extra-detail is worth it. Is Casablanca really going to be better being able to see more detail of Humphrey Bogart's face? The detail of Blu-ray only makes it easier to see the suspending wires in The Matrix while more green-screen effects are broken.
That an the late-stage revelation that blu-ray has a much slower read-time that DVD, that means the PS3 has inherently longer loading times than the Xbox 360 was too much.

Conclusion: I don't really care about PS3 any more. I don't have the will to sell it even though I preferentially buy multi-plat games for Xbox or PC. I keep it because I can't bear to sell it for how much it has depreciated, I might as well keep it to play the odd PS3 exclusive, made by Sony, but otherwise I cannot recommend the PS3. The exclusives and easy hard-drive upgrade don't justify it's cost.
I don't think you are in the target audience for Blu-ray. Its really more for people who want to invest in hi-def while owning the required setup. The difference in Blu-ray vs. DVD is how well the picture looks and the appeal of multiple soundtracks.

Also, here is a review on the ultimate Matrix Blu-ray Collection. Note that wires were not found and the only problem with the set is the tint of black in the later movies.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Ultimate-Matrix-Collection-Blu-ray/1089/
 

Treblaine

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eyepatchdreams said:
Treblaine said:
Conspicuous absences:

-Relevance of Blu-ray
It's been well over half a decade, almost 6 years since the PS3 hit the market and Blu-ray may have beaten HD-DVD but somehow it hasn't edged regular DVD out of the market. And now I look back at why we were REALLY excited about DVD back in the late 90's, it was the convenience of fast chapter select, no rewinding and the ability to play on more devices. It was MORE convenient. Blu-ray is LESS convenient! And I don't think the extra-detail is worth it. Is Casablanca really going to be better being able to see more detail of Humphrey Bogart's face? The detail of Blu-ray only makes it easier to see the suspending wires in The Matrix while more green-screen effects are broken.
That an the late-stage revelation that blu-ray has a much slower read-time that DVD, that means the PS3 has inherently longer loading times than the Xbox 360 was too much.
I don't think you are in the target audience for Blu-ray. Its really more for people who want to invest in hi-def while owning the required setup. The difference in Blu-ray vs. DVD is how well the picture looks and the appeal of multiple soundtracks.

Also, here is a review on the ultimate Matrix Blu-ray Collection. Note that wires were not found and the only problem with the set is the tint of black in the later movies.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Ultimate-Matrix-Collection-Blu-ray/1089/
Yeah, with hindsight I realise I am not and was not the target market. I knew exactly what Blu-ray was and I knew it was essentially the same DVD technology only with different light0wavelength and higher data density. I just stupidly thought the extra-detail would make it all worth it, I took it all on blind faith... wishing its worth would manifest.

But Playstation 3 with Blu-ra was not pushed to the niche Home-Theatre guys. It was pushed the same way as PS2 pushed DVD, as THE NEW FORMAT! The promise was DVD's days were numbered... and you didn't want to be left hanging like the guy who still has a VHS player for tapes. But that doesn't matter. Maybe I just got caught up in the hype, but back then it really did feel like PS3 was going to be everything PS2 was (relative to competition) but better.

I don't care about multiple soundtracks. That would be an artistic decision that depends on deeply understanding each film, I'd much rather defer that decision to the director or editor of the latest release. I understand that the user CAN make that decision but it is very much an enthusiast decision and I am not that much into any particular film to start hooing and harring about what would be the more fitting soundtrack. I appreciate alternate version like the Aliens Director's Cut that adds so much to the movie, but you could do that just as well on DVD, there I really am deferring to the director's decision.

That was another problem with blu-ray. "ultimate" editions being released right after they duped us with expensive initial releases that were just lazy quality. I'm sorry, you can't sell me crap and then say "ahh ha, got you there, now this is the real deal". Fifth Element I think was most infamous.

I had also gotten used to how I can buy a DVD and I can play it on my console, my PC and my laptop. Then easily rip it to sync onto my portable devices or simply back up into a flash-drive or external-hard drive. How I can plug in an external monitor or projector without having to worry if it is HDCP compatible.

I know you can remove wires by extra digital processing but my point was not really how you can see through some effects in higher resolution. My point was these films were great not because of the detail that you could resolve, they even depended upon low resolution to do the movie magic of hiding effect and make it look like Neo really is delivering those flying kicks on his own strength. In The Matrix, it is DEMONSTRATIVE that the resolution is such that you cannot see the suspending wires and it is still such an amazing film. I don't think films need much resolution to be great, I appreciate Casablanca on DVD for how you don't have the artefacts of VHS medium interfering with the original artist's presentation of a film reel projected.

Films are not about sharpness of representation, just like the 24-frames-per-second is an inherent part of film, a certain amount of blur and unsharpness is an inherent part. Getting the hue and contrast right are far more important to setting the mood for a movie than being able to see the crows-feet around Keanu Reeves' eyes.

But computer games, more pixels and more frames-per second are always better due to the way they work, not as a passive experience controlled in advance by a director. Games depend on you being able to see far and aim with pixel precision, and with more frequently your eyes are updates (higher framerate) you can respond quicker and be more capable in terms of gameplay.

There is also the aspect of being actually able to RESOLVE the extra detail even when it is there. This is briefly looked at in the theory of the Lechner distance - which though not scientifically proven - but in principal makes sense. Just because all the discrete the pixels are on a TV screen doesn't mean you can actually significantly distinguish one from another so that if you are a certain distance from a TV screen it is impossible to distinguish a 720x576 image from a DVD upscaled to 1920x1080 from a 1080p image shown natively pixel-per-pixel on a 1920x1080 screen.

So to actually reap the rewards of a film where each frame is 1920x1080 pixels you either have to sit very close, within 5 feet of a 30-inch screen. Or if at a more reasonable distance of 9-feet would necessitate a 70-inch screen. 9 foot from a 30-inch screen (very common layout) you can resolve the pixel detail that a DVD would give on a screen like that.
 

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I get kinda tired of the various threads about people swearing their done with various systems, games, companies etc., especially when the majority of them probably don't carry through anyway. Even if they do I still really don't care, good for you? I guess? What am I supposed to say here?
 

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I think I had more of a reason to rage then you. My first PS3 died after 1 year of use. This was a pretty big thing for me because I have owned game consoles since the NES and I even had one of the original lunch 360's (for 4 years before it RROD'ed) and none of them had ever died on me, even though all my friends had already replaced their 360's TWICE. So surprise surprise my PS3 (which I was told doesn't do this) dies the month after the manufacture's warranty ends. I was FURIOUS because I just got and started playing God of War 3 and I now had to buy another PS3 before I could continue.
 

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DTH1337 said:
=Explanation=
Fair enough, but you're not asking a quesiton, and if you're not looking for any kind of response then i don't really understand why you bothered making a thread at all, especially when the topic was obviously going to provoke some pretty angry responses.
 

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Toby Kitching said:
DTH1337 said:
=Explanation=
Fair enough, but you're not asking a quesiton, and if you're not looking for any kind of response then i don't really understand why you bothered making a thread at all, especially when the topic was obviously going to provoke some pretty angry responses.
I only made this thread just to state what had happened and the actions I took. Yeah, I expected maybe a few angry responses, but not this many.
 

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DTH1337 said:
Let me make one thing clear to everyone. It's not the fact that my trophy syncing function was broken that made me want to sell the PS3 (I know it's pretty much what I said in the OP, but hear me out).

There are a number of other reasons why I sold it, such as how broken and buggy the system can be at times such as shutting off for no reason whatsoever, and the fact that when I contacted the customer service, they gave me a stupid reason for why it might be happening (they believed it might be my modem).

It's not because I couldn't sync the trophies that made me sell the PS3 and give up on Sony, it's because of how easy the system messed itself up that just simply made me say "I've had enough!" (that, and the fact that the day this happened, my guarantee expired on it). I understand that my reasons may sound pathetic, maybe even irrational, but that's just the way it is unfortunately.

And finally, the reason I have no regrets on why I sold the PS3 is because I already have Steam, which is far superior and far more reliable than any other platform I have played in the last 5 years or so. I know Steam isn't a console, but if it was, it would probably make owning a 360 or PS3 pointless and unnecessary.
Steam is pretty awesome. There are rumors that Valve may be working on a console. I sold my PS3 last year to a friend of mine. I had stopped using it after I got my new gaming computer so I decided to sell it.
 

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Treblaine said:
eyepatchdreams said:
Treblaine said:
Conspicuous absences:

-Relevance of Blu-ray
It's been well over half a decade, almost 6 years since the PS3 hit the market and Blu-ray may have beaten HD-DVD but somehow it hasn't edged regular DVD out of the market. And now I look back at why we were REALLY excited about DVD back in the late 90's, it was the convenience of fast chapter select, no rewinding and the ability to play on more devices. It was MORE convenient. Blu-ray is LESS convenient! And I don't think the extra-detail is worth it. Is Casablanca really going to be better being able to see more detail of Humphrey Bogart's face? The detail of Blu-ray only makes it easier to see the suspending wires in The Matrix while more green-screen effects are broken.
That an the late-stage revelation that blu-ray has a much slower read-time that DVD, that means the PS3 has inherently longer loading times than the Xbox 360 was too much.
I don't think you are in the target audience for Blu-ray. Its really more for people who want to invest in hi-def while owning the required setup. The difference in Blu-ray vs. DVD is how well the picture looks and the appeal of multiple soundtracks.

Also, here is a review on the ultimate Matrix Blu-ray Collection. Note that wires were not found and the only problem with the set is the tint of black in the later movies.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Ultimate-Matrix-Collection-Blu-ray/1089/
Yeah, with hindsight I realise I am not and was not the target market. I knew exactly what Blu-ray was and I knew it was essentially the same DVD technology only with different light0wavelength and higher data density. I just stupidly thought the extra-detail would make it all worth it, I took it all on blind faith... wishing its worth would manifest.

But Playstation 3 with Blu-ra was not pushed to the niche Home-Theatre guys. It was pushed the same way as PS2 pushed DVD, as THE NEW FORMAT! The promise was DVD's days were numbered... and you didn't want to be left hanging like the guy who still has a VHS player for tapes. But that doesn't matter. Maybe I just got caught up in the hype, but back then it really did feel like PS3 was going to be everything PS2 was (relative to competition) but better.

I don't care about multiple soundtracks. That would be an artistic decision that depends on deeply understanding each film, I'd much rather defer that decision to the director or editor of the latest release. I understand that the user CAN make that decision but it is very much an enthusiast decision and I am not that much into any particular film to start hooing and harring about what would be the more fitting soundtrack. I appreciate alternate version like the Aliens Director's Cut that adds so much to the movie, but you could do that just as well on DVD, there I really am deferring to the director's decision.

That was another problem with blu-ray. "ultimate" editions being released right after they duped us with expensive initial releases that were just lazy quality. I'm sorry, you can't sell me crap and then say "ahh ha, got you there, now this is the real deal". Fifth Element I think was most infamous.

I had also gotten used to how I can buy a DVD and I can play it on my console, my PC and my laptop. Then easily rip it to sync onto my portable devices or simply back up into a flash-drive or external-hard drive. How I can plug in an external monitor or projector without having to worry if it is HDCP compatible.

I know you can remove wires by extra digital processing but my point was not really how you can see through some effects in higher resolution. My point was these films were great not because of the detail that you could resolve, they even depended upon low resolution to do the movie magic of hiding effect and make it look like Neo really is delivering those flying kicks on his own strength. In The Matrix, it is DEMONSTRATIVE that the resolution is such that you cannot see the suspending wires and it is still such an amazing film. I don't think films need much resolution to be great, I appreciate Casablanca on DVD for how you don't have the artefacts of VHS medium interfering with the original artist's presentation of a film reel projected.

Films are not about sharpness of representation, just like the 24-frames-per-second is an inherent part of film, a certain amount of blur and unsharpness is an inherent part. Getting the hue and contrast right are far more important to setting the mood for a movie than being able to see the crows-feet around Keanu Reeves' eyes.

But computer games, more pixels and more frames-per second are always better due to the way they work, not as a passive experience controlled in advance by a director. Games depend on you being able to see far and aim with pixel precision, and with more frequently your eyes are updates (higher framerate) you can respond quicker and be more capable in terms of gameplay.

There is also the aspect of being actually able to RESOLVE the extra detail even when it is there. This is briefly looked at in the theory of the Lechner distance - which though not scientifically proven - but in principal makes sense. Just because all the discrete the pixels are on a TV screen doesn't mean you can actually significantly distinguish one from another so that if you are a certain distance from a TV screen it is impossible to distinguish a 720x576 image from a DVD upscaled to 1920x1080 from a 1080p image shown natively pixel-per-pixel on a 1920x1080 screen.

So to actually reap the rewards of a film where each frame is 1920x1080 pixels you either have to sit very close, within 5 feet of a 30-inch screen. Or if at a more reasonable distance of 9-feet would necessitate a 70-inch screen. 9 foot from a 30-inch screen (very common layout) you can resolve the pixel detail that a DVD would give on a screen like that.
Blu-Ray is more for the people who want to invest into the picture and sound more than anything. DVD is still great quality, I don't blame people who still buy it rather than switch over.DVD is still a great investment for overall reasons and accessibility.

Also, Ultimate edition were happening before Blu-ray really hit the scene. The biggest offenders being Terminator and mostly any cult hit sci-fi movie.

It is also debatable that some blu-rays looks worse then there DVD counterpart and vice versa.

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Forgot about this.

Take a look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_disc