I'm finished with Final Fantasy

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Kukakkau

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So it's your FINAL fantasy then? ....yeah it was terrible

You say you're done but I bet that if they were to release another one you would still check it out or at the very least through videos.
 

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Growing up, I enjoyed and played some of the older Final Fantasy games. That was up until FF 8, when I picked up the controller and realized something was wrong when I wasn't having any fun. I gave up on it and stopped playing it early in the game, and after watching the spoony one review of it, I'm glad I did. I never bought or played any of the new FF games afterwards (though my brother did so I still remained updated on the FF story lines and such) and I feel there are other RPGs for me to enjoy such as Persona 4.
Final Fantasy was fun for awhile but for me it overstayed its welcome, and I just moved on to other games.
 

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I don't think you should judge the series by what could be it's worst game. That game was horrible. It was dull, boring, the characters were annoying (especially Vaan) and the battle system was idiotic. Final Fantasy just isn't the same without 3 character control in battle. FFXIII was fun, but when I finally got out in Gran Pulse, everything just got boring. I died all the time, I had no idea where to go, and it just seemed like an expanded wall rather than a free world.

Now, VII and X, on the other hand. Those are entirely different stories. I want to try VI, just never got around to it.
 

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Mr. In-between said:
I finished FFXII last night, after waiting the better part of 4 years to give the game a shot.

My main gripe with the game? The plot (or lack of one). There was absolutely nothing engaging about the plot of this game whatsoever. No twists, no turns, nothing engaging. The main character was completely disposable and I never even used him once I got Balthier, Basch, and Fran together. The main villain looked like he belonged in a bad Cure tribute band, and who the hell was this Venat? Seriously, what purpose did this serve? What was any of the antagonists' motivations?

Final Fantasy is dead to me. I haven't played X, XI, or XIII, but I can safely say that I will never be purchasing another Final Fantasy title after suffering through 60+ hours of this god-awful piece of shit. I don't know when Square decided that the Final Fantasy series was a way to demonstrate the graphical capabilities of the platform it's released on, but they should know that they've just lost a longtime fan... not that it should matter, because the legion of retarded "goth" teenagers they pander to will pick up the slack left by the absence of original fans.
I know, I can agree with you on every single point of that game and I have played FF games since I was 10 years old (and I'm 18 now.) All I can say is I completely and utterly agree and that's exactly why I play X and lower, not that X was too good either, I think FF stopped at 9, which was the best installment in the series.
 

TundraStalax

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In final fantasy, I stick with 5 and before, you know, the one's that are more fantasy, and not sci-fi...
 

Mr. In-between

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Apparently you've been using the skip cutscenes button or can't understand the english language past the sixth grade level because the villains motivations are clear and the plot is really well written. Yeah Vaan sucks but he's not the protagonist. The game starts off with him to pander to japanese teenagers, but have you ever heard him speak more than five lines in the latter 90% of the game? Balthier is the protagonist, and the plot moves beyond that of the revolution to one with deep meaning about religion, mankind, and fate. But you were probably whining about Vaan's stupid hair during the cutscenes, weren't you? ANd besides, every villain looked stupid since FFIV, let me count:

FII, the emperor. Dumb hair, effeminate, light gold armor
Exdeath: Light blue armor does not make him look badass.
Kefka: He dresses in patchwork, multicolor fabrics and looks like a clown.
Sephiroth: Wears tight leather, leaves his chest open, has thigh length silver hair and swings around a sword longer than his body.
Ultimecia: Huge hair horns, ridiculously slutty oufit.
Kuja: He's a man that wears a thong as his only below-waist clothing and talks like some idiotic stage villain.
Seymour: Slutty outfit, bare chest, stupidest hair ever conceived. (Jecht looks cool though)
Vayne: A sinister, somewhat handsome man in dark armor with evil motifs. Okay, he has hair like Robert Plant, but he's still a step up. Dr. CId is a cool villain too, much better designed, and has some real personality.

EDIT: If you hated FFT, I have no sympathy towards you. You are just an idiot with no attention span. Not liking it because an element of gameplay or something wasn't to your taste, then fine.
Sensors detecting massive amounts of butt-sore in this sector.

Sorry that I'm just a lame "Gaijin" who didn't like what many people seem to believe was a horrible entry into the franchise. Seeing as I purposely didn't skip any of the cutscenes in an attempt to find some manner of a plot to the god-awful thing, I'd like to know what "deep meaning" you were able to find in a story that had less actual substance than Final Fantasy III.
Eliira said:
Mr. In-between said:
2. I think that Zemus and Sephiroth had a pretty clear motivation aside from "because we want to"... If my memory is correct, then Kuja and even Garland/Chaos had some semblance of motivation aside from "I just feel like doing this" in that they had a motive, however poorly written or implied it was.
After Garland tells Kuja that he has a limited lifespan, his motivation literally devolves to "I'm going to kill you all because if I'm going to die you should too. Also because I can.". Before that he was basically doing his flamboyant thing to have fun and resurrect the Terrans so he could be a God or something.

Zemus' motivation seemed to be "BECAUSE I'M EVIL" (or maybe "because I'm actual;y a vessel for the Avatar of Pure Hatred", but shh).

Garland/Chaos... Uhm, no clue. At all.
Actually, Zemus' motivation was that he was a racist and didn't want to co-exist with the people of the planet.

Garland/Chaos was sent by the four fiends of the present into the past so he in turn, could send them to the future creating a time loop that would allow him to achieve immortality.
 

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I've waited all these years and finally decided it was time to play Mega Man 8. I have to say it was the biggest disappointment I have ever experienced. The "updated" graphics were too cartoonish, the plot made little sense, and the voice acting... oh God the voice acting. It was just terrible all around. I give up. Even though I enjoyed every other entry in the series I can no longer play Mega Man. Ever.
 

kazriko

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Agh. I finished FF13 recently, thought it was a much better game that most people gave it credit for. I went back and started working on FF12 again. Man do I hate FF12. The only one that is worse for me is FF4. I'm at 78 hours now, and I'm sure I'll break 85 hours by the time I finish it, and I've barely touched the sidequests. Most long games I keep working on are actually enjoyable. DQ7 & 8, Dark Cloud 1 & 2, all of these were fun even though they were 80 hours. FF12 is just dragging on for me. I spend 15-20 hours every 9-10 months trying to beat the darn thing before I get utterly sick of it again.

FF12 is more for people who want the wide open sandboxy world without as interesting of a storyline IMO.

I think I'm going to stick with FF12 to the end this time though. I looked at a guide, and I'm on step 48 out of 50. Might as well mark it off my list once and for all.

As for Megaman 8... I would try Megaman 9 before giving up on the series. they went an entirely different direction with 9.
 

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Well, I've grown up on games, and FF has most definitely been a portion of my childhood, but in all honesty, FF12 wasn't that bad. What it lacked in story, it made up in improvements and ideas that I thought Squenix was incapable of doing. The gambit system was fun and intuitive and though people complain that you can let the CPU do all of the work, your the one who has to plan it all.

Assuming you didn't grab a FAQ and have them breast feed you the game, you actually had to learn what gambits worked well and what you could have the computer do to save you time. I've heard complaints from people saying they beat the final boss without even touching the controller, but I did that back with FF1-FFX by simply putting a pillow on the attack button. Besides that, unless u power leveled, most creatures kept you on your toes and forced you to micromanage your party, so telling Vann to attack 120 times when you could automate it and do something else is being productive, not redundant.

Graphically the game looks its best, but this series doesn't get points for that anymore, and though I miss Nobou's composing, the FFT Composer, whose name escapes me did a bang up job of making some memorable pieces. I still listen to the OST.

The world of Ivalice however is where I give FF12 the most credit. There are a plethora of side quests and side ventures that kept me happily occupied more so than the main plot did, and each dungeon could be revisited and further explored for even more treasure and back story. The game had alot of extra content because it was imitating an MMO, and sadly enough it did a better job of imitating a good offline MMO in this game then it did with an ACTUAL MMO! (Take that FFXI!)

All in all, I didn't like the story either. Vann was worthless, Ashe was a prissy ***** (which was a real let down btw), Penelo was loopier then Yuffie, Basch at least I felt for, Fran was just a nice ass on camera, fuck if all else, and Baltheir could have stolen the whole show. The characters weren't the best cast in the world and the plot needs management, but the GAME aspect of FF12 is just as new and refreshing as the series has always been. The License board and leveling system kept me entertained and the Free world battles made some more action shine on to JRPGS genre as a whole. It's by no means perfect and I still give it an 8.5 overall, but if you're a fan of the series, you already know that FFX was the last true game. SquareSoft died in the merger, and Squenix slowly killed off any of the founding members that hadn't jumped ship before hand. The series has been on a decline for years now and FF13 certainly proves that, but hey, there games, and they are either going towards some new horizon or a dust bin in purgatory. So I'm not mad at ya.
 

TheBlueRabbit

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I'm guessing I'm a vast minority. For most of my life, I was a "casual gamer." Never played a single FF game until 13 came out, so I don't have much of a comparison. Watched a few people play X and it seemed kinda interesting. JRPG's just never were my thing.

That being said, I DID play XIII and enjoyed it. I liked the way the story unfolded during gameplay instead of being laid out before you. It was a bit on the linear side compared to the previous ones from what I can tell, but that didn't want to bother me. My major complaint was wanting to curb-stomp Vanille every time she opened her mouth!
 

kazriko

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Vanille wasn't that bad, once they got past the phase where they were trying not to reveal that she was from Pulse. (I can imagine the voice acting direction. Make weird noises, try to sound vaguely but not specifically foreign.) After that initial part the voice acting got better.
 

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You should try the re-releases of the originals on GBA and DS then. Dawn of Souls has a great port/improvement of part 1. I just started it and it's awesome. So many improvements.

Or you could play Lost Odyssey. It's more like o.g. FF than the current FF's themselves.

But, don't feel too bad, I didn't like XII either. Although I enjoyed all the others except for 12, 13 and X-2. I've not given up on the franchise, but it does seem to be circling the drain.
 

Girl With One Eye

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I totally agree that FFXIII was a complete FAIL, but X was a decent game - one of the best in the series and you should play it if you havent. In regards to future titles, Im interested to see where they will progress but if they continue to remain linear...I guess I'll be finished aswell :(
 

Carlston

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Heh FF Xiii is not even a rpg.

And most peoples only defense is "You only played 28 hours? You didn't give it a chance!"

Yeah I did and it blew goats. And had the worst recycled character conscepts, no shame in that, hell i liken the archtypes of FF XIII as throwing darts at a board to make a character.
 

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What is so wrong about Till the End of Time? Last Hope was SO much worse, also 12 was great, 13 sucked ass
 

Yureina

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Mr. In-between said:
This game is up there with Star OCean: Til the End of Time in terms of pure, unadulterated, soul-crushing failure.
Good to see that someone else around here recognizes that. SO3 was the last JRPG I ever played because it turned a classic and awesome game like Star Ocean: The Second Story and made a sequel that, in its sheer crappiness, made me feel like I wanted to cry. :(
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
What is so wrong about Till the End of Time? Last Hope was SO much worse, also 12 was great, 13 sucked ass
SO3 was a decent game until the storyline started going bonkers. You know what I am talking about if you have played that game. "4D" has got to be the most bizzare twist I have ever seen in a game.
 

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Girl With One Eye said:
I totally agree that FFXIII was a complete FAIL, but X was a decent game - one of the best in the series and you should play it if you havent. In regards to future titles, Im interested to see where they will progress but if they continue to remain linear...I guess I'll be finished aswell :(
I will agree that X was a 'decent' game, but by no means one of the best in the series. Sorry, but it was where the series truly showed the first cracks in its armor. They were able to cover up for VIII and IX, but X and X-2 were really not the greatest games from any standpoint.

Then again, I played I when I was a tot, and have played everything up to this point (XI excepted, but my roommate was a rabid fangirl of that one) including Mystic Quest. VI and VII are my tops in the series, for storyline and pure fun times.

On a weird note, has anyone noticed that the final cutscene of XII feels a LOT like the end of Star Wars?