I'm proud to be white!

[Lionsfan]

But then again, I'm bitter and from Michigan, where the only racists live in Howell.

You've clearly never been to South Lyon.

Take a trip down to the cities west of Ypsi and South of Ann Arbor. Saline, Chelsea, Dexter, Manchester can be pretty bad at times.

Basically this. Though, for some reason, nobody remembers the black panthers.

It's probably because some people have never heard of them. Don't know if it's different in the US (or elsewhere) but the first time i heard about the black panthers was when i watched forest gump. We had just done a 6 week block in history about the whole civil rights movement, the whole bus protest, protest marches, 'I have a dream' story, but not once did we hear about any of the more 'unsavory' elements of the movement. I think some people want to paint a rosy picture of the oppressed group to make a more palatable story which is something we should never do, the entire truth of history needs to be told otherwise we end up repeating mistakes that we should never have forgotten.

You're definitely spot on. Sure the older stuff gets taught later in High School (if you make it that far or take those classes) but for the most part we're taught a whole bunch of BS when we're young and we remember that shit for life. People want to believe it was all happy and ignore all the violence committed by both sides (cause apparently it was only White Police who were violent, and even then they just sprayed water on them), but nobody ever mentions the rioting in LA, Detroit, and New York.

OT: OP I see what you mean, and if someone is standing up and saying "I'm proud to be X and deserve compensation for what my ancestors went through" then they can fuck off. But like some other people have said, for the most part when people say that today it's because they've been persecuted recently and using it as a shield. The world would be a better place if everything was equal, but unfortunately it isn't, the best we can do is just try anyway

 

[Drake_Dercon]

I am proud of who I am, not my race, not my gender, not my sexuality. Those are simply parts of me that are largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I will not be proud of my race because that begets a feeling of superiority.

I'm not uncomfortable with being white. Honestly, I want to help people that still deal with the kind of shit that was brought on them by white men that they're still dealing with, but I don't feel guilty either. I just want to fix what was started. Racism has to stop, in all forms. Racial pride from anyone is a load of bullshit, in my opinion because it promotes a feeling of superiority over people with a different skin colour. Don't be proud of what you are, be proud of who you are.

You are not a race, you are a human.

Added note:

Anecdotally, nobody tends to call non-heterosexual white males (the non applying to all three) on issues of racism, sexism or the other kind of sexism colloquially referred to as homophobia. I don't think we should stop calling white guys on acting offensively, but I'm not above pointing out to my gay, female and non-white (and their combinations, of course) friends when they act sexist or racist. It's become far too common to overlook issues of race, gender and sexuality when "the man" (if I can be forgiven for using that) isn't under the spotlight.

 

[Ninjat_126]

Well its because we are the majority in a lot of places and therefore its easy for people to accuse us of being against the minorities. Oh well.

On a related note,
Men in general have the same problem.

Feminists are widely accepted, but anyone who puts forward male priorities is pronounced a sexist bastard.

Oh, your game is about an intelligent, brave little girl protecting her stupid older brother? That's cool.
What!? Your game is about a man ordering around his younger sister? What, like women are only there to be controlled by men? SEXIST!


Recently at my school, there have been programs run to give indigenous (Aboriginal) people a better education and more job opportunities. I believe that is racist.

Think about it. They're not asking "Which students need this support", they're saying "Aboriginal people are poorly educated and we need to help them". There are large amount of homeless Aboriginal people in the nearby areas, but they're not saying "Give homeless/disadvantaged people some help". They're saying "Only help black people."


I'm Australian. I happen to have white skin, and I'm (presumably) descended from European settlers who only arrived here recently. I've got a stable family, a good home, and reasonable school grades. I don't need support. But I wish that people who do need it will get it.



OT: Stop acting like someone's skin colour changes what sort of person they are. "Black" is not a culture, it's a colour. Same with white, or red, or yellow. We are people, from different countries and cultures.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

Interesting post, OP.

Personally I'm no more a fan of the black guy who is proud to be black than I am of the white guy who is proud to be white. They're both racist pricks.

I also don't like people who are proud of their nationality, or proud of their sexuality, or proud of being a part of any other arbitrarily defined group.

 

[Legion]

This post is not written angrily, nor is it supposed to be interpreted as a rant. Imagine an emotionless robot is voicing this opinion:

Yes, white people can pretty much be called racists but cannot suffer from racism.
The same way men can be sexist but women can't be sexist against men.

Obviously I am not saying it is impossible to for either of the above to happen, but the world by and large ignores instances and makes excuses along the way for why it's not true.

An example:

If a male boss told a young female employee "You are very pretty, I'd like you to stand and greet customers".

He could be called a sexist pig, she could probably sue him for mistreating her by only valuing her appearance, and exploiting her body, treating her different just for being a young woman.[footnote] I am not saying all women would do this, I am suggesting the possibility and peoples reaction if they did.[/footnote]

A female boss says to a male employee "You are a strong man, can you lift this for me?"

Can you imagine the reaction a man would get if they tried to claim this was sexist? That they were having their body exploited, treated differently because they were a male and therefore more useful for carrying things than other tasks? The funniest thing is that this one actually happens to me every time the women at work want help with something.

The same thing can go for race, religion and all other manner of things. Now obviously this is due to some of the bad things that have been done in the past. White people enslaved black people, men used to (and in some cultures still do) consider themselves to be superior to women, and Christianity is a religion that very few people threaten to kill over, and so it's an easy target.

It still doesn't make it fair.

Regardless of history, what has been done by whom and why, racism, sexism and whatever the term is for hating specific religions (as opposed to all of them) is, it is not fair and it is not right. All should be treated equally and fairly, and only then can these things truly disappear.

Interesting post, OP.

Personally I'm no more a fan of the black guy who is proud to be black than I am of the white guy who is proud to be white. They're both racist pricks.

I also don't like people who are proud of their nationality, or proud of their sexuality, or proud of being a part of any other arbitrarily defined group.

I agree with this. They should most certainly never be ashamed of it, but to be proud of something you have no choice or say in makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

 

[S3Cs4uN 8]

why cant people be more like orkz from 40k?